FSUG-Bangalore February 2006

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Follow-up to the meet on Saturday...
by Abhas Abhinav 04 Mar '06

04 Mar '06

Hi Everyone... First of all let me profusely apologise for the rather delayed email... Its been pending for many days and I just got a chance to send it in. Okay - first a short snapshot of major stuff that we discussed regarding the organisation of a GPLv3 event. I'm going to focus and quote only on that part of our discussion... please do feel to add in anything that you feel I left out. 1. We discussed venues like public halls, IISc and IIM. There is a small follow-up to this after our visit to IISc on Monday and IIM on Tuesday. Shivanand and I met Prof Gopinath at IISc. Due to other engagements that he has it would not be possible to involve him in organising the conference at IISc. However, he is very interested in the conference and would be willing to join ing. We then met Prof Rahul De' and Prof Shankar Venkatgiri at IIM-B on Tuesday. They were very upbeat about the possiblities of organising the conference at IIM. Now we need to indicate some dates to them so that they can make a proposal to their committee (at the Centre of Public Policy at IIMB) and get a nod on whether they can hold the event there. 2. Kanti raised a very very important point about assembling an action team here in Bangalore. He said that as a precursor to organising an event on such a large scale, we should first organise series of smaller events. This will help us in proving to ourselves that we can indeed organise a much bigger event. Based on Kanti's feedback, all of us decided that this is definitely needed and doable. Basically, working together as a team is very important and if we work together to do smaller events, it will help increase understanding amongst all of us who have volunteered to help out for the GPLv3 event. To start with, we will have another meet at BMSCE to discuss and understand the GPLv2. I volunteered to make a presentation on this. (Don't know if I'm biting off more than I could chew, but lets see...) And then we decided that we will discuss about the license to ensure that all of us understand it very well. This event will a more of a team-building event. The idea is to ensure that we all know and understand each other enough to be able to work together for organising the GPLv3 conference. 3. Of course, I can't miss out mentioning the coffee we had at Koshy's. And the fun that it was sitting in Cubbon Park to have our discussion... I think we can make Cubbon Part our regular meeting place. Not the same rock... maybe a different one every time. 4. Briefly, we also touched upon the topic of offering projects and seminars to students. Many Many thanks to: Rakesh (arky) - for setting the temper and direction for so many of the meeting topics. Rakesh was also the one, I guess, who knew almost everyone present. Praveen A, Kushal Das, Ramkrishna Reddy, Anush Shetty, Nirmal Thacker, Kanti, and Bimal Mankara for contributing very actively to the healthy discussion. Many thanks to all others who attended and volunteered. I could not quote everyone's name above. Please don't feel bad about it. Here is a list of people who attended: Kushal Das Isaac Praveen Akshay SasiKumar Basil Baby Bimal mankara Sajith K.C Anush Shetty Nirmal Thacker Praveen A Ramkrishna Reddy Parag Nemade Zabil CM Sweekar Pinto Sajith T S Nitin Numar Laxminarayan Kamath Shivanand V Edrami Abhas Abhinav Rakesh Ambati Many thanks to Laxminarayan for typing this in. I've left out the phone numbers here since this will be publically archived on the Internet... Can mail that to all of us privately. Further actions --------------- 1. Identify time and date for the BMSCE meeting. I think we were planning for Saturday. But there seems to be a BLUG meeting. Do we still want to hold it parallelly or should we postpone our meet to Sunday or next weekend? Or even mid week sometime. Any other venues that could accomodate all of us? 2. We need a discussion list of some sort. Any suggestions? How about a gnu.org.in mailing list? Currently, everyone is subscribed to the FSUG-Bangalore mailing list and we can continue our discussion here. Fellows - please do build up on this email... I'm sorry if I did not cover everything. Cheers, Abhas. -- i-take-charge at DeepRoot Linux http://www.deeproot.co.in / +91 (80) 4112 4784 / 85 Getting gnu/Linux to work for you. Faster. Better. Today. Every way.

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An Eulogy for LinuxGazette.com
by Rakesh 'arky' Ambati 28 Feb '06

28 Feb '06

Dear Friends, It has come upon me the sad duty of informing you of the sudden demise of LinuxGazette.com as of 30 minutes ago. I had a pleasure of learning so much from its sibling Linux Journal and with much gratitude I set upon to pay my dues by remedying the young LinuxGazette.com who fallen upon bad days bereft of friends and lolling with spammers, vandals and SEO's. I pray that the lost peace and hope that it should rise the phoenix from the ashes for there we are longing to hear its beautiful song once again. Amen. --arky

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Invitation to NITC FOSS Meet
by प्रव ीण् ए (Praveen A) 27 Feb '06

27 Feb '06

Hi, This is an invitation to join NITC FOSS Meet 2006. The latest version of this document is availbale in wiki form at http://fci.wikicities.com/wiki/Calicut/NIT/FOSS_Meet/06/Invitation Regards Praveen A NIT Calicut, formerly known as REC Calicut <http://nitc.ac.in/> is hosting a two day FOSS <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSS> event on 18th [Saturday] and 19th [Sunday] of March 2006 ( NITC FOSS Meet 2006 <http://fci.wikicities.com/wiki/Calicut/NIT/FOSS_Meet/06>). It is the second edition of the event [Last year it was called FLOSS Meet] - FLOSS Meet 2005<http://fci.wikicities.com/wiki/Calicut/NIT/FOSS_Meet/05> The event has grown from last years 4 speakers/3 talks/one day to 13 speakers/10 talks + 2 workshops/bofs and more/two days. It is part of the ongoing effort from the FOSS EDU group<http://foss-edu-in.sarovar.org/>to popularise FOSS among students. FOSS EDU already conducted successful events at BMS College of Engineering<http://fci.wikicities.com/wiki/Bangalore/BMSCE>, PES Institute of Technology <http://fci.wikicities.com/wiki/Bangalore/PESIT>, [Bangalore/MCC| Mount Carmel College]], Sapthagiri College of Engineering<http://fci.wikicities.com/wiki/Bangalore/SCE>(all in Bangalore <http://fci.wikicities.com/wiki/Bangalore>). Our next destination after NIT Calicut <http://fci.wikicities.com/wiki/Calicut/NIT> is MSRIT<http://fci.wikicities.com/wiki/Bangalore/MSRIT>, Bangalore. NITC FOSS Meet is a part of the FOSS Month 2006<http://fci.wikicities.com/wiki/Bangalore/FOSS_Month-2006>celebrations FOSS EDU group is started as an offort to provide FOSS Education tools customised for Indian educational institutions. The first step in this direction is to produce a dollar one encyclopedia<http://www.techmag.biz/dollar_one_encyclopedia>, ie, to bring out a CD/DVD edition of wikipedia <http://wikipedia.org/>. Now back to the event details. 9 Talks + 2 Workshops March 18,19 2006 - Arun M Foss - General Talk [FOSS in Society] Intellectual Property, Copyright, Licence issues - Gopal Vijayraghavan DotGNU / Mozilla Hack - Kalyan Varma Network Security - Philip Tellis Education/Creative Commons - Praveen and Dilip Debian Workshop - Premshree Pillai Ruby - Sharath Lakshman Live CD Workshop - Shreekumar Quake 3 - Fun and more - Shreyas Srinivasan GNOME Hack - Pradeepto K Bhattacharya KDE Development - Shyam Mani Gentoo Developer - Aanjhan R Embedded Linux - Kushal Das Fedora BOF Apart from the scheduled talks there will be bofs on various topics like we saw in FOSS.IN <http://foss.in/2006> Looking forward to your support and participation. -- "GNU is the system, and Linux is the kernel." A proud GNU user http://www.gnu.org Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr

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GPLv3 MIT Conference videos
by Rakesh 'arky' Ambati 27 Feb '06

27 Feb '06

Hi Friends, Just found this entry on <a href="http://www.cyberlaw.se/kalle/2006/02/10/gplv3-video-online/">Karl Jonsson's Weblog <strong>PLv3 Video Online</strong></a> mentioning the GPLv3 conference video on bittorrent. Here is the <a href="http://gplv3.fsf.org/av/gplv3-draft1-release.ogg.torrent">torrent</a> but no luck so far. Check out the <a href="http://gplv3.fsf.org/av" rel="tag">GPLv3 Audio Video </a> page for more information of downloading the file. (Had no luck with this torrent yet perhaps I need check the tracker then I'll start a super-seeder for my region.) Did anyone of you have tried downloading and watching them, yeah I know I should done this as soon much before. Cheers --arky

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[X-Post]Rs 50 FM Radio station
by Rakesh 'arky' Ambati 27 Feb '06

27 Feb '06

Morning Friends, A beautiful story that portrays the power of innovation and power of will. --- Shubhranshu Choudhary <smitashu(a)gmail.com wrote: To: <bytesforall_readers(a)yahoogroups.com From: "Shubhranshu Choudhary" <smitashu(a)gmail.com Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:41:37 +0530 Subject: [bytesforall_readers] Rs 50 FM Radio station http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4735642.stm The amazing DIY village FM radio station By Amarnath Tewary In Vaishali, Bihar It may well be the only village FM radio station on the Asian sub-continent. It is certainly illegal. The transmission equipment, costing just over $1, may be the cheapest in the world. But the local people definitely love it. On a balmy morning in India's northern state of Bihar, young Raghav Mahato gets ready to fire up his home-grown FM radio station. Hundreds of villagers, living in a 20km (12 miles) radius of Raghav's small repair shop and radio station in Mansoorpur village in Vaishali district, tune their $5 radio sets to catch their favourite station. After the crackle of static, a young, confident voice floats up the radio waves. "Good morning! Welcome to Raghav FM Mansoorpur 1! Now listen to your favourite songs," announces anchor and friend Sambhu into a sellotape-plastered microphone surrounded by racks of local music tapes. For the next 12 hours, Raghav Mahato's outback FM radio station plays films songs and broadcasts public interest messages on HIV and polio, and even snappy local news, including alerts on missing children and the opening of local shops. Raghav and his friend run the indigenous radio station out of Raghav's thatched-roof Priya Electronics Shop. Ingenious The place is a cramped $4-a-month rented shack stacked with music tapes and rusty electrical appliances which doubles up as Raghav's radio station and repair shop. I just did it out of curiosity and increased its area of transmission every year Raghav Mahato He may not be literate, but Raghav's ingenuous FM station has made him more popular than local politicians. Raghav's love affair with the radio began in 1997 when he started out as a mechanic in a local repair shop. When the shop owner left the area, Raghav, son of a cancer-ridden farm worker, took over the shack with his friend. Sometime in 2003, Raghav, who by now had learned much about radio mechanics, thought up the idea of launching an FM station. It was a perfect idea. In impoverished Bihar state, where many areas lack power supplies, the cheap battery-powered transistor remains the most popular source of entertainment. "It took a long time to come up with the idea and make the kit which could transmit my programmes at a fixed radio frequency. The kit cost me 50 rupees (just over $1)," says Raghav. The transmission kit is fitted on to an antenna attached to a bamboo pole on a neighbouring three-storey hospital. A long wire connects the contraption to a creaky, old homemade stereo cassette player in Raghav's radio shack. Three other rusty, locally made battery-powered tape recorders are connected to it with colourful wires and a cordless microphone. The shack has some 200 tapes of local Bhojpuri, Bollywood and devotional songs which Raghav plays for his listeners. Raghav's station is truly a labour of love - he does not earn anything from it. His electronic repair shop work brings him some two thousand rupees ($45) a month. The young man, who continues to live in a shack with his family, doesn't know that running a FM station requires a government licence. "I don't know about this. I just began this out of curiosity and expanded its area of transmission every year," he says. Local hero So when some people told him sometime ago that his station was illegal, he actually shut it down. But local villagers thronged his shack and persuaded him to resume services again. It hardly matters for the locals that Raghav FM Mansoorpur 1 does not have a government license - they just love it. "Women listen to my station more than men," he says. "Though Bollywood and local Bhojpuri songs are staple diet, I air devotional songs at dawn and dusk for women and old people." Since there's no phone-in facility, people send their requests for songs through couriers carrying handwritten messages and phone calls to a neighbouring public telephone office. Raghav's fame as the 'promoter' of a radio station has spread far and wide in Bihar. People have written to him, wanting work at his station, and evinced interest in buying his 'technology'. "But I will never share the secret of my technology with anyone. This is my creation. How can I share it with somebody who might misuse it?" he asks. "With more powerful and advanced chips and equipment I can make a kit which could be transmitted up to 100km or even more." A government radio engineer in Bihar's capital, Patna, says it is possible to use a homemade kit to run a FM radio station. "All it needs is an antenna and transmitting equipment. But such stations offer no security. Anyone can invade and encroach such locally made transmitters," says HK Sinha of India's state-run broadcaster All India Radio (AIR). But people in Mansoorpur are in awe of Raghav's radio station and say it gives their village an identity. "The boy has intense potential, but he is very poor. If the government lends him some support, he would go far," says Sanjay Kumar, an ardent fan of his station. But for the moment Raghav FM Mansoorpur 1 rocks on the local airwaves, bring joy into the lives of the locals. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/4735642.stm Published: 2006/02/24 11:34:36 GMT © BBC MMVI ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shubhranshu Choudhary Freelance Journalist Ph : + 91 98110 66749 e mail : smitashu(a)gmail.com http://www.cgnet.in http://smitashu.8m.net

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Plans for talk on 'GPL' in BMS college
by Rakesh 'arky' Ambati 26 Feb '06

26 Feb '06

Dear Friends, Following the active discussions during the weekend meet at koshy's, we had decided to organize a short talk on GPL in BMS College and revive GNU(s) Grazing as well. Story so far...... Abhas has taken the responsibility of giving a talk on 'GPL' on weekend or week-day. Initially it was though we could arrange at event on Feb 26 Sunday(today) but it seems they are other blug events scheduled on the same day. Nirmal from BMS college had promised us to find us a lecture hall to stage the talk and he will first have to get consent of college so that we can decide on the day of the talk. If other colleges would like to host the talk please tell us so in this thread. Praveen and Nirmal had conducted a successful event in BMS last time so we hope to do another great event with your help . We used to have social gatherings called 'GNU(s)Grazing' sometime back but we couldn't have any last year, perhaps if colleges or any group would like to host we would revive this social gathering once again. Please give your suggestions and plans in this thread. Have a great weekend. Cheers --arky

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[event/film] Manifestations 'Isabelle Huppert' Feb 25- March 6
by Rakesh 'arky' Ambati 26 Feb '06

26 Feb '06

Hi List, Here is another screening from Cinema,Coffee,Conversations of Bangalore Film Society. Though the screenings are members only, you are most welcome to watch these beautiful movies with us. All film buff's from FSUG-Bangalore will get complimentary thanks from arky if they can come and help us revive Bangalore Film Society 'Cinema, Coffee, Conversations' events. Cheers --arky ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Isabelle Huppert in 10 Great films of Acclaimed Directors. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Starting out as a teenage star in Paris, Isabelle Huppert has evolved into an institution and standard by herself. Vivacious, brave, intelligent, she has caught the collective imagination of directors, critics and audiences all over the world. As she blossoms into 50, the Bangalore Film Society is proud to present:- Manifestations: A Homage to Isabelle Huppert. A shy hairdresser who loses her grip on life, a country girl lost in the city, a middle class housewife who risks her secure bourgeois life for a violent drifter, a disgruntled 50*s lady who strikes up an uncomfortably intense friendship with another woman, Madame Bovary- Flaubert*s eternal mistress, a woman in the throes of a painful divorce, a village postmistress who instigates a savage revolt, a mistress of Louis the 14^th who decides to atone a life of debasement, a sexually frustrated piano teacher, a Nice streetwalker on the run from the law* Huppert*s metamorphoses are complete and consummate when viewed through the lenses of acclaimed directors like Goddard, Chabrol and Haneke. And cinema is illuminated. Manifestations Isabelle Huppert in 10 films of the Great Directors of Cinema At Badami House 6.30 p.m. February 25^th to 6^th March 2006 Date Film Director 25.02.06 La Dentelliere - Claude Goretta The Lace Maker 26.02.06 Sauve Qui Peut Jean-Luc Godard * Slow Motion 27.02.06 Loulou Maurice Pialat 28.02.06 Coup de Foudre Diane Kurys - At First Sight 01.03.06 Madame Bovary Claude Chabrol 02.03.06 La Separation * The Separation Christian Vincent 03.03.06 La Ceremonie * The Ceremony Claude Chabrol 04.03.06 Saint Cyr-The King*s Daughters Patricia Mazuy 05.03.06 La Pianiste * The Pianist Michael Haneke 06.03.06 La Vie Promise Olivier Dahan * The promised life Admission for BFS members only. Inquiries please contact:- 080 25492774/ 25492779 Good cinema beckons! --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[tech] Re-setting Debian default python version
by Rakesh 'arky' Ambati 10 Feb '06

10 Feb '06

Hi List, Am trying to have python2.4 runtime only on Debian Sid, The Debian's default Python version is currently v2.3. Does anyone know a __nice__ way of doing this without having to resort installing Debian default Python2.3 dependency package. Cheers --arky

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fwd: [bytesforall_readers] Seeking web-space ...
by Rakesh 'arky' Ambati 08 Feb '06

08 Feb '06

Please pass around this request. Cheers --arky --- "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <fred(a)bytesforall.org> wrote: > To: bytesforall_readers(a)yahoogroups.com > From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" > <fred(a)bytesforall.org> > Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 06:22:48 +0530 > Subject: [bytesforall_readers] Seeking web-space ... > > This is a request for help, for a personal, > volunteer-driven, unfunded > project. In Goa, a few of us here are keen to build > village-level > portals and cyber communities online. We anticipate > that this will not > only help build local content, and encourage > youngsters to become > producers-of-information (rather than just > consumers) ... but also > potentially link up expat communities with the areas > which they have > links to. > > Due to a lack of webspace, this dream hasn't yet > taken off. There are > some mailing lists, and wikis being tried out in a > limited number of > cases. > > If anyone could offer some webspace (in reasonable > quantities), with the > scope for building multiple domains/sub-domains, a > control panel, and a > tool like Fantastico, this would really help. Kindly > get in touch if you > can help! Many thanks in anticipation, Frederick > "FN" Noronha. > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Frederick 'FN' Noronha | > http://fn-at-google.notlong.com > Goa, India | fred(a)bytesforall.org > Co-Founder, BytesForAll | +91(832)2409490 Cell > 9822122436 > ------------------------------------------------------------- >

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LDTP 0.3.0 released !!!
by Nagappan 06 Feb '06

06 Feb '06

Hi, LDTP community has reached another important milestone with the release of LDTP 0.3.0. This release features the new architecture which is a result of more than 3 months of hard work by the LDTP community. This newsletter also includes latest news on our approach towards achieving an automated test engine. Useful references have been included at the end of this article for those who wish to hack/use LDTP. LDTP is now at version 0.3.0 ! About LDTP: Linux Desktop Testing Project is aimed at producing high quality test automation framework. It uses the "Accessibility" libraries to poke through the application's user interface. Thanks to Sun and Accessibility team. Whats new in this release... + New Client Server Architecture: This release includes major changes in the architecture with LDTP using client/server architecture to handle more scenarios which were not possible with the previous versions. Thankfully, not much changes are required for the old scripts for them to be used. Kudos to the LDTP community for making this release a grand success. + Run time appmap generation (initialization of appmap is optional) Appmaps can be optional with the new LDTP as it can be generated automatically at run time.This along with the Regular Expression (discussed below) feature will greatly minimise the script changes required after the GUI of the application to be tested changes. + Regular expression based object search (both context and component) This cool new feature enables the script writer to give regular expressions instead of complete names for the components under testing. This relieves the script writer from setting the context for different window titles. + For unexpected windows (example: connection reset by peer /connection timed out dialogs) can be handled by registering a callback function and the respective callback function will be called, whenever the registered window with the title appears and even this window could be based on regular expression + Programming language is no barrier for automation! Now the scripts can be written in any language even though the default one is Python. + Cleaner code base LDTP code base has been restructured and all the files follow proper coding guidelines. This helps newbies to get started with hacking LDTP more easily than ever before. This release is a promising one from the LDTP community with a bag full of features and lot more! so what are you waiting for. Grab your copy from the following link and start easing your work by automating using LDTP. Downloads... You can download the latest version of LDTP from http://ldtp.freedesktop.org/wiki/Downloads LDTP is available as rpm package. LDTP is also available as deb package for Debian and Ubuntu distributions. Thanks to Casanova (prashmohan(a)gmail.com) for the providing the same. For a step by step instruction on setting up LDTP please refer http://ldtp.freedesktop.org/wiki/How_20to_20setup_20pyldtp_20in_20GNU_2fLin… References For detailed information on LDTP framework and latest updates visit http://ldtp.freedesktop.org All the published newsletters including the current one can be downloaded from http://ldtp.freedesktop.org/wiki/Newsletters For release notes of every release including the current one please refer http://ldtp.freedesktop.org/wiki/Release_20Notes For information on various APIs in LDTP including those added for this release can be got from http://ldtp.freedesktop.org/wiki/API_20Reference To subscribe to LDTP mailing lists, visit http://ldtp.freedesktop.org/wiki/Mailing_20list IRC Channel - #ldtp on irc.freenode.net Thanks Nagappan -- Nagappan A <anagappan(a)novell.com> Linux Desktop Testing Project - http://ldtp.freedesktop.org

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