Greetings,
Dr. D. B. Phatak wants to create an offline internet. It will be a collection of sites which are of importance. This is for the schools and colleges that do not have internet access. The sites will be included on a CD, and can be installed on the HDD of the servers. Dr. D. B. Phatak wants many people to work on this, and we probably have the people to help for this cause. I am willing to do the co-ordination for this project, but I am not the official co-ordinator, let me know if you are interested in helping in the project.
Bye.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:54:25 +0530 Amish Munshi amish@munshi.dyndns.org wrote:
|Dr. D. B. Phatak wants to create an offline internet. It will be a | collection of sites which are of importance. This is for the schools and | colleges that do not have internet access.
Can we fit google on a CD ? (By far, the most important site, IMHO) :)
Count me in too. Some more background on the project would be helpful.
Regards,
Zainul.
google has 2 parts the front end and backend i guess front end can fit on a floppy while for backend need i say more ?
regards harsh
On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 11:18, Zainul M Charbiwala wrote:
Can we fit google on a CD ? (By far, the most important site, IMHO) :)
Count me in too. Some more background on the project would be helpful.
Regards,
Zainul.
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--- Amish Munshi amish@munshi.dyndns.org wrote: > Greetings,
Dr. D. B. Phatak wants to create an offline internet. It will be a collection of sites which are of importance. This is for the schools and colleges that do not have internet access. The sites will be included on a CD, and can be installed on the HDD of the servers. Dr. D. B. Phatak wants many people to work on this, and we probably have the people to help for this cause. I am willing to do the co-ordination for this project, but I am not the official co-ordinator, let me know if you are interested in helping in the project.
Bye.
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Amish Munshi writes:
Greetings,
Dr. D. B. Phatak wants to create an offline internet. It will be a collection of sites which are of importance. This is for the schools and colleges that do not have internet access. The sites will be included on a CD, and can be installed on the HDD of the servers. Dr. D. B. Phatak wants many people to work on this, and we probably have the people to help for this cause. I am willing to do the co-ordination for this project, but I am not the official co-ordinator, let me know if you are interested in helping in the project.
Hi,
I am willing to help. In fact , I am very keen on creating an offline version of www.tldp.org. We can give away these cds along with knoppix and FreeDuc as and when this is done. I have spoken to a lot of newbies to GNU/Linux. They want a good reference book. This CD might just be an answer.
Also another idea which came of of a discussion with Mr. Nagarjuna @GNUnify was that we could have a subscription kind of service for corporates and individuals. We can mail the update CDs every 3/6 months. I was thinking something on the lines of MSDN which we lack for GNU/Linux.
Luggers plz send your comments on this.
Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-JUHU
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:42:02 -0700 vinayak_hegde@softhome.net wrote:
Also another idea which came of of a discussion with Mr. Nagarjuna @GNUnify was that we could have a subscription kind of service for corporates and individuals. We can mail the update CDs every 3/6 months. I was thinking something on the lines of MSDN which we lack for GNU/Linux.
Simply providing a CD containing all the documentation won't make a big contribution since tldp.org already provides download packages for all manpages, info docs and howtos. Those are also included on distro CDs, AFAIK (not sure about howtos).
MSDN is extensively indexed and has very structured information. We can do such a thing for GNU/Linux if we provide a searchable heirarchy of documents. Man sections are quite limited in this regard and I'd suggest another level of grouping based on package types. E.g. in section 1 (applications) we have subsections like Accessories, Development, Games, Graphics, System and so forth (preferably matching their RPM (or .deb,if such exist) categories.
Man pages and info docs have well-structured information, so it's possible to provide a consistent browser interface for those. A tree-structured navigation for all the docs in one place would be great.
Lastly, there's a question of output formats. Most howtos are available in HMTL, postscript and PDF formats. Converters are available for man and info pages to HTML though I am yet to see their PDFs. I'd suggest packaging these resources in their native (troff, texi, docbook...) formats and providing a facility to convert them atleast to HTML and PDF formats during installation.
To summarize, we have to:
# Agree upon a common document structure # Look for applications that can be used as documentation browsers # Decide upon common output format(s) # Provide converters for the above format(s)
Comments are welcome :-)
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Amish Munshi wrote:
Greetings,
Dr. D. B. Phatak wants to create an offline internet. It will be a collection of sites which are of importance. This is for the schools and colleges that do not have internet access. The sites will be included on a CD, and can be installed on the HDD of the servers. Dr. D. B. Phatak wants many people to work on this, and we probably have the people to help for this cause. I am willing to do the co-ordination for this project, but I am not the official co-ordinator, let me know if you are interested in helping in the project.
Bye.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:54:25AM +0530, Amish Munshi wrote:
Dr. D. B. Phatak wants to create an offline internet. It will be a collection of sites which are of importance. This is for the schools and colleges that do not have internet access.
This seems like a serious misinterpretation of what DBP actually has in mind. I was lucky to be present when he explained his idea in general to RMS while he was staying at the IIT guest house. Nag and Jitendra Shah were also present ... Amish, if what you were told is something different, please elaborate.
Although the real picture is much bigger, called the "Affordable Solutions Lab" here at KReSIT, the basic idea is to create an offline _network_ of educational institutes. Even in the absence of connectivity (not Internet), a CD full of educational content will be useful, I think. The whole project aims to get students as well as teachers all over the country, irrespective of _Internet_ connectivity, to generate educational content at all levels of schooling. The content will be free (as in freedom) with due credit to the contributors.
Putting useful Internet sites on the CD seems infeasible, what with copyright and such issues. I remember RMS cautioning not to use the term "IPR" in place of "credit".
I myself can't say much about what's in the pipes, but there should be an official announcement sometime in the next couple of months.
Sameer.
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On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:54:25AM +0530, Amish Munshi wrote:
Dr. D. B. Phatak wants to create an offline internet. It will be a collection of sites which are of importance. This is for the schools and colleges that do not have internet access.
Although the real picture is much bigger, called the "Affordable Solutions Lab" here at KReSIT, the basic idea is to create an offline _network_ of educational institutes. Even in the absence of connectivity (not Internet), a CD full of educational content will be useful, I think. The whole project aims to get students as well as teachers all over the country, irrespective of _Internet_ connectivity, to generate educational content at all levels of schooling.
This is right, you have just explained the topic in a better way that I did, but the first thing that will be required is to get the websites (or free/open content). Only then can we plan to distribute it. Offline interenet is not the only portion that will exist on these CD's but will be approx 98% of the content of these CD's, Other content may include a few books which some authors might like to contribute but are not willing to put it up on the Internet.
Sameer.
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