Yes! We should block HTML mail but after giving couple of warnings. -- Warm Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vinayakam Murugan Viruses getting you down? Get your virus protected mailbox at http://www.tassm.com How many Microsoft engineers needed to screw a light bulb ?? None. Microsoft declares darkness the standard.

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Hi, I think we should leave it to the users to be responsible and not send HTML mail. Clifford q u a s i wrote:

Hi, Maybe youre right. Plain text it is but please inform the senders as to why their purty HTML mails were blocked :-) . We should welcome one and all to this list especially newbies and educate them to be a proper netizen (keep a shorter intro message when somebody joins the list). I know its difficult to deal with the kind of people who ask where the 'any key' is ;-) but we should still try to help. By scaring people away we are not helping Linux in any way. Clifford Philip S Tellis wrote:

This is a rather trivial solution to the problem; I wouldn't have raised this question at all if all the documents we pass around are available at publicly accessible URLs. I was referring to documents which are not on the Web. What do you suggest we do then? Shuvam

On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 01:19:27PM +0000, Kapil Karekar wrote: If you wish to share a document not encoded in plain text, and think should go to the list, then simple thing to do is to open theat file in an aaplication that created it, and save as text and then send/attach to the mail to the list. I am suggesting this since not everyone out there has a web page to host documents. Nagarjuna

This is more trouble than I would be willing to take just to let some members of my mailing list see an interesting document I've found. But if the rest of you think this is the way to go, I'm fine with it. I'll just never make such documents available to the list, that's all. No big deal. I looked, and I can see those dirty HTML tags. Bloody irritating. I'm going a bit off-topic here, but perhaps the mail archiving software is the problem here? I have seen archives maintained by Hypermail, and I haven't seen any such problems in its handling MIME encapsulated messages. In fact, Hypermail does an excellent job with opaque attachments (e.g. Word docs or audio files or whatever) too; it just gives you a link using which you can download the attachment. Similarly, I have heard a lot of comments during this discussion about the difficulty of using HTML messages using plain-text mail clients like Pine. While this is a bit of a problem sometimes (HTML with frames), I usually find my Pine client (I use Pine exclusively, nothing else, and this is the stock version bundled with SuSE 8.1) displays HTML just fine, without actually launching any "helper app" or asking me to jump through any hoops. So, is HTML content really such a problem even today with Pine? I know both these comments are a bit off-topic, but I thought I'd ask anyway. :) Shuvam

Hey, no hard feelings. :) I know that if I really have super-duper critical info to send to you guys, no mailing list software will stop anyone... I am sure I email you directly. And if it is indeed something that important, you won't mind the fact that it doesn't come through the list. So, honestly, no big deal. :) Yes, on the archiving front, I don't know which program does the archiving for this list. From whatever we've studied, Mailman does not have any archiver built-in. You can use something called Pipermail, a Python program, for this purpose, but Pipermail is no longer maintained. Therefore, we've fallen back on Hypermail. It seems to be working beautifully with MIME. The current archive for this mailing list doesn't even handle MIME, it seems. You can see all the MIME separator strings in the messages. This is too primitive to be accepted, I feel. Any way I can help, let me know. Shuvam

The only solution I have for this is setting up Hypermail. My colleagues in Starcom can set up Hypermail for you, if you are running the mailing list on a Unix/Linux server and can give us SSH access. On one or two occasions when we will need something done as supervisor, we'll ask you to do it for us. Let me know if this is interesting; we'll do it for the LUG. regards, Shuvam

On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:22:16AM -0700, praveen shinde wrote: So you did time travel ! :-) -Bhargav.