On 30/03/03 01:08 -0500, Dot Dot wrote:
1. Please understand that we are new to Linux. We want
help from LInux
gurus like you to help us. And there are many of us, feeling reluctant
to ask questions, because we dont know if they will sound silly.
We were all new
The how to ask questions guide is at
2. Please dont intimidate us with strict rules for
sending a mail to LUG
mailing list. Let us feel free to ask questions, even if it looks like
Not all of
us use GUI mail clients. Turning word wrap on is just a
matter of netiquette. This mail is being composed in a 80 x 25 console.
Asking offtopic questions is in bad form. Using HTML is bad form.
Not searching google first is very bad form.
trivial to geeks. We understand that your time is
valuable. But we would
like to request you to take some time out to sort out our issues. I
We would just
like to see people doing some research first, rather than
turning to the LUG as an instant consultancy.
understand it when you get irritated seeing a mail
seeking job. But let
The mailing list has a mail sent when you join detailing list
us be happy that there are people out there looking
for a job in Linux.
Use of the wrong forum tends to decrease Signal to Noise Ratio,
the list less valuable for all of us.
We are growing. Let us not think that they are not
upto our standards.
They didnt get a chance to understand Linux earlier.
3. We will be sad if you start a new mailing list for linux gurus. We
will feel left alone. I thought we want to make people aware of Linux
and encourage them to use it. Not to create groups of geeks and
newbies. Please dont discriminate. Try to help us solve our trivial
Maybe trying to solve your own problems first is better.
Please try to unerstand Linux culture:
We did not start with handholding. Maybe a unix book or two, and the
manuals (online). The Linux solution has usually been do it yourself.
For the newbie, his/her question may be totally new, but for someone who
has to answer the same questions repeatedly, it gets boring.
There is a very good reason why the turnover in helpdesk jobs is so
Learning to use the tools that you have is much better than being told
what to do. The newbie here has much better resources at hand than what
we did. It just that the newbies have to learn that the list is not for
spoonfeeding them. We can but show them the path. Walking the path is
something they have to do for themselves. (with apologies to Morpheus).
The views expressed here doesn't implicate that
any of the esteemed
lugger thought low about the newbies.
Ummm, that flame was on the SNR of the list,
not on newbies in general.
Being rude tends to get flames in response.