Hello,
Here is a page where some people discuss the privacy issues related to Google's new Crome browser.
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=30605
On Wednesday 03 Sep 2008 23:45, Rony wrote:
Hello,
Here is a page where some people discuss the privacy issues related to Google's new Crome browser.
There is no privacy for anything that you send thru an intermediate service provider unless it is strongly encrypted. You think that MTNL/TATA/whoever cant snoop on your data / voice /sms. While there are established legal procedures for snooping on voice and snail mail (now quite nicely mangled in the name of fighting terrorism), in most countries including Inde there are afaik no rules about net data.
In this case Google is getting it's finger into your data passing thru their services. But the nature of copyright laws are such that you could create hell for google if they attempt to misuse. Still no patch on automatically phoning the base ship WITHOUT you knowing.
jtd wrote:
On Wednesday 03 Sep 2008 23:45, Rony wrote:
Hello,
Here is a page where some people discuss the privacy issues related to Google's new Crome browser.
There is no privacy for anything that you send thru an intermediate service provider unless it is strongly encrypted. You think that MTNL/TATA/whoever cant snoop on your data / voice /sms. While there are established legal procedures for snooping on voice and snail mail (now quite nicely mangled in the name of fighting terrorism), in most countries including Inde there are afaik no rules about net data.
In this case Google is getting it's finger into your data passing thru their services. But the nature of copyright laws are such that you could create hell for google if they attempt to misuse. Still no patch on automatically phoning the base ship WITHOUT you knowing.
An ISP is the root service so it is only one entity to bother about. It does not make any claim to our data to pass it on to other members of their business syndicate. It only reserves the right to intervene when there is a supposed security risk or threat. If every Tom Dick and Harry software maker makes packages and then claims its right on all data using that software then there is no end to it. At least users of Google products should be aware of this policy and then make a conscious decision.
On Thursday 04 Sep 2008 22:25, Rony wrote:
jtd wrote:
On Wednesday 03 Sep 2008 23:45, Rony wrote:
Hello,
Here is a page where some people discuss the privacy issues related to Google's new Crome browser.
There is no privacy for anything that you send thru an intermediate service provider unless it is strongly encrypted.
If every Tom Dick and Harry software maker makes packages and then claims its right on all data using that software then there is no end to it. At least users of Google products should be aware of this policy and then make a conscious decision.
Absolutely. Yet that is not enough. One should be aware that data on the net can be hijacked and misused - much more dangerous than Google's stupid licence.
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:29 AM, jtd wrote:
On Thursday 04 Sep 2008 22:25, Rony wrote:
jtd wrote:
On Wednesday 03 Sep 2008 23:45, Rony wrote:
Hello,
Here is a page where some people discuss the privacy issues related to Google's new Crome browser.
There is no privacy for anything that you send thru an intermediate service provider unless it is strongly encrypted.
If every Tom Dick and Harry software maker makes packages and then claims its right on all data using that software then there is no end to it. At least users of Google products should be aware of this policy and then make a conscious decision.
Absolutely. Yet that is not enough. One should be aware that data on the net can be hijacked and misused - much more dangerous than Google's stupid licence.
Hijacking and misuse is still illegal. Here the software maker simply wanted to own everything that passed through its software that it calls 'service'. "Mere papa ka sapna, sabka maal apna".
-- Regards,
Rony. GNU/Linux No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.
Google changes its license text after public objections.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7597699.stm
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:38 AM, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
There is no privacy for anything that you send thru an intermediate service provider unless it is strongly encrypted. You think that MTNL/TATA/whoever cant snoop on your data / voice /sms. While there are established legal procedures for snooping on voice and snail mail (now quite nicely mangled in the name of fighting terrorism), in most countries including Inde there are afaik no rules about net data.
In this case Google is getting it's finger into your data passing thru their services. But the nature of copyright laws are such that you could create hell for google if they attempt to misuse. Still no patch on automatically phoning the base ship WITHOUT you knowing.
No, you're wrong. Theres no privacy with even encryption used today because quantum computing can break any known keys. Given sufficient time and effort any encryption can be broken.
You want privacy? Sorry you cant have, I'll tap into your brain waves and learn everything about or else I'll drug you and get everything out of you.
Law? Who cares about it? A rogue sysadmin might be already reading all the porno websites you visited today! So please dont give false hope to people to protect their privacy using encryption / laws or whatever coz theres no such thing as privacy!
Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:38 AM, jtd [1]jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
There is no privacy for anything that you send thru an intermediate service provider unless it is strongly encrypted. You think that MTNL/TATA/whoever cant snoop on your data / voice /sms. While there are established legal procedures for snooping on voice and snail mail (now quite nicely mangled in the name of fighting terrorism), in most countries including Inde there are afaik no rules about net data.
In this case Google is getting it's finger into your data passing thru their services. But the nature of copyright laws are such that you could create hell for google if they attempt to misuse. Still no patch on automatically phoning the base ship WITHOUT you knowing.
No, you're wrong. Theres no privacy with even encryption used today because quantum computing can break any known keys. Given sufficient time and effort any encryption can be broken.
Time and effort are the Key terms here, encrypted data usually has a lifetime after which it is useless the question arises as to how meaningful it is decrypt the data of a million users at random just to snoop on them Quantum Computers are not yet a reality so we have a lot of time to develop better encryption methods and how about encryption of steganographic messages, but such a discussion may be off topic ;) Regards Surya
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