On 28/08/04 00:46 +0530, Rony Bill wrote:
Please bear with the long mail. I am a new member here and my reason for
joining is to get an idea of whats
happenning in the Linux community especially in Mumbai. I am a hardware
engineer by profession and I undertake maintainence for the SOHO segment. I
learnt windows on my own since last 5 years by burning the midnight oil, but
my networking knowledge is limitted to connecting machines peer to peer in
windows. My first encounter with Linux was when Red Hat 8 was the current
one. It loaded well on my Celeron 400 and I could configure the internet
accounts and surf online using an external modem. However, the printouts in
my LX 300 were never upto the same quality as in my Windows Me. The
I agree, printing is a major hassle in Linux. I have never had issues
with dot matrix printing, or with laser jets (the good stuff, not
consumer quality -- I haven't tried those yet). Inkjets have always been
bad, in my experience.
OpenOffice suite took longer to open in Linux than in
Win. But the major
problem was that printer could not get setup in OO so I would create docs in
OpenOffice comes with its own printer management utility named spadmin.
OO and open them in some other utility and print them.
Ultimately that OS
became a learning experiment than a proper day to day usable system.
Now I am currently learning the RHCE 033 module and was provided a set of
CDs for Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS and they loaded well on my other P4
running existing XP. But it refused to detect my internal connexant modem
Yikes, a Winmodem.
though it exists in the kudzu listing as a pci device
even with its proper
name. The modem CD has linux drivers but even after loading all of them one
The drivers are binary only, IIRC. You need to compile the source
against your current version. This sucks. Blame the manufacturer for a
by one, the modem would just not respond. The
driverguide site gave a driver
but the 180Kb something tar.gz file finally opened a 8Kb object file which I
did not know what to do. Even in this OS, the print quality in my LX 300 is
very poor compared to my XP. Again, Open Office simply vomits my paper
out whenever print command is given.
I am not telling all this to look for solutions, but to highlight the
problems that are making Big Billy have the last laugh. I use legal Windows
both comps. and the rest is freeware office, firewall, antivirus,
anti-spyware etc. I want to promote Linux to home and small office users but
with this situation, I am in a fix how this dream can materialise.
Many of you here have gone through these hurdles and are now master
programmers too but what about dealers and sub dealers who want to promote
Linux with their normal computer experience and knowledge? They are not
programmers. Take any windows
OS like 98 or Me or XP, it loads like butter and even when advanced drivers
are not available, it performs general functions using its own drivers. A
Given reasonably good hardware which has the specifications released,
Linux support is excellent. Sadly, this is generally the commercial
grade of equipment, rather than the cheap consumer grade.
simple task like printing a word file in Linux is a
problem when the
Enterprise Edition in theory is supposed to be superior and office centric.
Without modems, net and email which is a basic office function is
impossible. The hardware I am talking about is no unknown one but a basic
Hey! My Internet connectivity is running on an ethernet card. No dialup.
And the one that my parents use is a 33.6 K external modem, which is
still working fine.
Intel based PC with a normal popular internal modem of
a reputed company
like D Link. I must add that the Xandros Linux installed beautifully before
the RHEL was loaded and Xandros detected my modem and I surfed the net but
again, print quality
was lacking as in all other Linux I tried. An engineer cannot be expected to
spend too much time on one system, that too for simple tasks of getting a PC
Good hardware helps. Really. In hardware, you get what you pay for. In
software as well, though the software payment is not cash but time.
up and running smoothly. He has to attend atlest 4 to
5 breakdown calls
daily. Through the GUI, I fiddled with a lot of settings but got no result.
As a result, Linux has still to reach the SOHO user as a fullfledged
alternative to Windows. They are still on Windows. Unbranded computer
assemblers that use and support varying hardware, still keep away from
I have a few suggestions for the developers and OS makers,
1. Have some sort of unity within the Linux community where simple things
like driver support is available to everyone across Linux irrespective of
freeware or paid versions. A free version that does not function properly
Get the manufacturers to provide specifications? Nvidia is a major
makes no sense. The scattering of Linux flavours that
have taken place
should be re-channelised into one main objective and that is to provide a
proper and similar, if not better alternative to Windows. Unity is strength.
2. Is there any development going on in making a Linux utility that converts
windows drivers into Linux drivers as per the Linux flavour and kernel? If
wine can run
fullfledged Windows programs in Linux, this too should be a possibility.
ndiswrapper does some things.
3. Identify commonly used hardware that can be
configured to give equaly
good results in Linux too especially printers, modems. Scanners is another
problem with Linux. None of the flavours I tried could setup my Canon D646u.
A driver converter mentioned in point 2 could come in handy.
SPECIFICATIONS from the manufacturers?
4. Please have some kernel intercompatibility in
relation to device drivers
so that drivers written for older kernels work on new ones too. I read in
the recent LFY mag that internal modem drivers written for older kernels
cannot work on newer ones. Linus Tarvolds could do something about this?
Well, the recommended solution from the kernel development team is to
build the drivers for the proper kernel version. Works for me.
5. Make Linux not only developer friendly but normal
A well spec'ed box will work better and give fewer problems than a
cheap, low end, lousy quality box. Its not hard to use Linux with good
hardware that follows standards and the specifications are available. It
is hard to use it where the manufacturer does not provide
How about trying to sell better hardware instead?
Those who found my mail long and boring can send in
their flames although I
am sorry about that. But this
was my experience which I wanted to share with you. As I go on in the RHCE
course, I will learn more.