Hi guys, I have my HTC Desire cellphone running android 2.2 . i want to sync my cellphone contacts and calender with my thunderbird or evoluation. is it possible by any application on linux platform. iam using fedora 14 on my desktop.
You can try setting up a gmail account to store contacts. This account can be synced up with Adroid device via Google sync. And with Thunderbird via IMAP.
-Shamit
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys, I have my HTC Desire cellphone running android 2.2 . i want to sync my cellphone contacts and calender with my thunderbird or evoluation. is it possible by any application on linux platform. iam using fedora 14 on my desktop.
-- Regards Advait Raut -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.comwrote:
You can try setting up a gmail account to store contacts. This account can be synced up with Adroid device via Google sync. And with Thunderbird via IMAP.
-Shamit
Thanks for that reply but it think that's a bit long process. why cant we have directly sync applications for the same. since android is on opensource platform i thought there must be plenty of sync application for linux. but am surprised that there is none. (that's really sounds crazy)
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys, I have my HTC Desire cellphone running android 2.2 . i want to sync my cellphone contacts and calender with my thunderbird or
evoluation.
is it possible by any application on linux platform. iam using fedora 14 on my desktop.
-- Regards Advait Raut -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.comwrote:
You can try setting up a gmail account to store contacts. This account can be synced up with Adroid device via Google sync. And with Thunderbird via IMAP.
-Shamit
Thanks for that reply but it think that's a bit long process. why cant we have directly sync applications for the same. since android is on opensource platform i thought there must be plenty of sync application for linux. but am surprised that there is none. (that's really sounds crazy)
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys, I have my HTC Desire cellphone running android 2.2 . i want to sync my cellphone contacts and calender with my thunderbird or
evoluation.
is it possible by any application on linux platform. iam using fedora 14 on my desktop.
-- Regards Advait Raut -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
-- Regards Advait Raut -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Don't know about any applications but its not such a time consuming process.
Just enter the gmail account details in android and thunderbird and sync.
I have my blackberry, android and thunderbird synced in this fashion.
Its pretty easy and you can have all contacts email, phone numbers or otherwise in one location and that too linked.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for that reply but it think that's a bit long process. why cant we have directly sync applications for the same. since android is on opensource platform i thought there must be plenty of sync application for linux. but am surprised that there is none. (that's really sounds crazy)
You will have to use an implementation of MicroSoft ActiveSync. OpenSync is one of these, Install this on your Linux PC. You can sync contacts/calendars/emails over USB or BlueTooth.
-Shamit
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.comwrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for that reply but it think that's a bit long process. why cant we have directly sync applications for the same. since android is on opensource platform i thought there must be plenty
of
sync application for linux. but am surprised that there is none. (that's really sounds crazy)
You will have to use an implementation of MicroSoft ActiveSync. OpenSync is one of these, Install this on your Linux PC. You can sync contacts/calendars/emails over USB or BlueTooth.
-Shamit
Thanks i will try opensync. hope this is the soluation for which am wating for. other all soulations i can understand, but thats a way around to do things.
2011/1/5 Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.com:
You can try setting up a gmail account to store contacts. This account can be synced up with Adroid device via Google sync. And with Thunderbird via IMAP.
IMAP cannot sync contacts; it is purely meant for mail syncing.
Binand
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
I have my HTC Desire cellphone running android 2.2 . i want to sync my cellphone contacts and calender with my thunderbird or evoluation. is it possible by any application on linux platform. iam using fedora 14 on my desktop.
I am assuming that your mail client (Thunderbird or, Evolution) fetch the mails from an account. You'd need to figure out the details of how to synchronize/access that account rather than attempt to solve the issue of synchronize/access from the desktop application.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay < sankarshan.mukhopadhyay@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
I have my HTC Desire cellphone running android 2.2 . i want tosync my cellphone contacts and calender with my thunderbird or
evoluation.
is it possible by any application on linux platform. iam using fedora 14 on my desktop.
I am assuming that your mail client (Thunderbird or, Evolution) fetch the mails from an account. You'd need to figure out the details of how to synchronize/access that account rather than attempt to solve the issue of synchronize/access from the desktop application.
well for that i always use IMAP accounts & never used pop accounts.
-- sankarshan mukhopadhyay
http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
well for that i always use IMAP accounts & never used pop accounts.
Indeed. If you are already using IMAP on the account (for example your present @gmail.com account), why would you prefer to sync with a physical device and an application running on that device as opposed to a mail store ?
In general, if you already have an Android phone, using the Gmail app with your credentials put in should allow you to sync your gmail (for a pre-defined period).
How does a MUA fit into this workflow ?
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:53 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Advait Rautadvaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
      I have my HTC Desire cellphone running android 2.2 . i want to sync my cellphone contacts and calender with my thunderbird or evoluation. is it possible by any application on linux platform. iam using fedora 14 on my desktop.
I am assuming that your mail client (Thunderbird or, Evolution) fetch the mails from an account. You'd need to figure out the details of how to synchronize/access that account rather than attempt to solve the issue of synchronize/access from the desktop application.
This is a question to all the Android users. Is this a good option or better option for LInux users? Do these phones have a 'suite' that is made for Linux? How simple and easy it is to attach an Android phone to a Linux box and use it comprehensively like a typical Nokia suite?
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
This is a question to all the Android users. Is this a good option or better option for LInux users? Do these phones have a 'suite' that is made for Linux? How simple and easy it is to attach an Android phone to a Linux box and use it comprehensively like a typical Nokia suite?
These phones support ActiveSync, which is a standard Sync protocol. Any ActiveSync software can be used to sync contacts etc.
Thats why if you plug it into Windows 7 or Mac, it would appear as a phone with contacts/calendars/messages and not as dumb USB pen drive. There you do not need Nokia PC Suite or any other software to sync data with PC.
With Linux, there is no "Out of Box" ActiveSync client that is as integrated as Windows 7 or Mac, but with some efforts it can be setup.
-Shamit
2011/1/5 Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.com:
These phones support ActiveSync, which is a standard Sync protocol. Any ActiveSync software can be used to sync contacts etc.
ActiveSync is a Microsoft-proprietary protocol, available only to licensed OEMs. Hardly a "standard".
Binand
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Binand Sethumadhavan binand@gmail.comwrote:
2011/1/5 Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.com:
These phones support ActiveSync, which is a standard Sync protocol. Any ActiveSync software can be used to sync contacts etc.
ActiveSync is a Microsoft-proprietary protocol, available only to licensed OEMs. Hardly a "standard".
Its like FAT32, developed by MS but a de-facto standard. It is supported by iOS, Android, Symbian, Samsung. Blackberry. And it works on Windows/Mac/Linux
-Shamit
2011/1/6 Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.com:
Its like FAT32, developed by MS but a de-facto standard. It is supported by iOS, Android, Symbian, Samsung. Blackberry. And it works on Windows/Mac/Linux
Which software on Linux supports ActiveSync?
As far as the comparison to FAT-32 is concerned, that is sufficient reason to stay as far away from ActiveSync as possible - since FAT-32 is the first known product whose patents Microsoft tried to enforce on Linux. See:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/02/microsoft-sues-tomtom-over-fat...
ActiveSync is similarly patent-encumbered.
Binand
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Binand Sethumadhavan binand@gmail.comwrote:
2011/1/6 Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.com:
Its like FAT32, developed by MS but a de-facto standard. It is supported
by
iOS, Android, Symbian, Samsung. Blackberry. And it works on Windows/Mac/Linux
Which software on Linux supports ActiveSync?
As far as the comparison to FAT-32 is concerned, that is sufficient reason to stay as far away from ActiveSync as possible - since FAT-32 is the first known product whose patents Microsoft tried to enforce on Linux. See:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/02/microsoft-sues-tomtom-over-fat...
ActiveSync is similarly patent-encumbered.
OpenSync is one the most used packages on Linux. Good into on that : http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/b/bb/OpenSync_FOSDEM_2007.pdf
In mobile world, there is not escaping MS things. MS was doing smartphones in 1998 when no one else was, thats why Windows CE technologies like FAT32/OBEX/ActiveSync are well entrenched in this market. Everyone including Apple/Android/BlackBerry licenses in from MS.
-Shamit
2011/1/6 Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.com:
Which software on Linux supports ActiveSync?
OpenSync is one the most used packages on Linux. Good into on that : http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/b/bb/OpenSync_FOSDEM_2007.pdf
Can you point me to one reference that says OpenSync implements the ActiveSync protocol? As far as I remember, OpenSync implements SyncML, an *open* standard for PIM synchronization.
In mobile world, there is not escaping MS things. MS was doing smartphones in 1998 when no one else was, thats why Windows CE technologies like FAT32/OBEX/ActiveSync are well entrenched in this market. Everyone including Apple/Android/BlackBerry licenses in from MS.
Really? In my view, there is no MS in the mobile world. ActiveSync is an also-ran; even MS has ditched it now. SyncML is what almost all major vendors use.
I don't understand where you got the idea OBEX is an MS technology.
Blackberry doesn't support ActiveSync at all - it uses its own proprietary sync protocol (which it licenses separately as Blackberry Connect).
Which smartphone did you have in mind when you said "MS was doing smartphones in 1998"?
Binand
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Binand Sethumadhavan binand@gmail.comwrote:
2011/1/6 Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.com:
Which software on Linux supports ActiveSync?
OpenSync is one the most used packages on Linux. Good into on that : http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/b/bb/OpenSync_FOSDEM_2007.pdf
Can you point me to one reference that says OpenSync implements the ActiveSync protocol? As far as I remember, OpenSync implements SyncML, an *open* standard for PIM synchronization.
In mobile world, there is not escaping MS things. MS was doing
smartphones
in 1998 when no one else was, thats why Windows CE technologies like FAT32/OBEX/ActiveSync are well entrenched in this market. Everyone
including
Apple/Android/BlackBerry licenses in from MS.
Really? In my view, there is no MS in the mobile world. ActiveSync is an also-ran; even MS has ditched it now. SyncML is what almost all major vendors use.
I don't understand where you got the idea OBEX is an MS technology.
Blackberry doesn't support ActiveSync at all - it uses its own proprietary sync protocol (which it licenses separately as Blackberry Connect).
Which smartphone did you have in mind when you said "MS was doing smartphones in 1998"?
PocketPC line of products (Running Windows CE 2.0) that were sold starting from 98. OpenSync is a framework that has plugins for SyncML/OBEX/ActiveSync/Nokia prop etc.
Regarding BlackBerry, it uses its own protocol for BES->Device (BES is Blackberry Enterprise Server). For syncing with Exchange it uses multiple connection adapters, one of them is ActiveSync.
List of major platforms that support ActiveSync: 1. Android : http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/ 2. Iphone : http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/ 3. Symbain S60
-Shamit
2011/1/6 Shamit Verma subs.linux.mum@vshamit.com:
Which smartphone did you have in mind when you said "MS was doing smartphones in 1998"?
PocketPC line of products (Running Windows CE 2.0) that were sold starting from 98. OpenSync is a framework that has plugins for SyncML/OBEX/ActiveSync/Nokia prop etc.
Questions:
1. Which PocketPC qualified as a "smartphone" in the nineties? The O2 Xda, one of the earliest Windows-based phone was launched in 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_Xda).
2. Where does it say that OpenSync has an ActiveSync plugin? This page: http://www.opensync.org/wiki/plugins - has no mention of it.
Binand
On Thursday 06 January 2011 15:13:34 Shamit Verma wrote:
In mobile world, there is not escaping MS things. MS was doing
smartphones
in 1998 when no one else was, thats why Windows CE technologies like FAT32/OBEX/ActiveSync are well entrenched in this market. Everyone
Factually incorrect. Windows CE was launched in 2000. And devices using it appeared in 2000. This was a phoneless PDA. It was preceeded by many other vendors, including Casio and HP.
There were several phone pdas prior to microsoft, with the earliest one being Simon from IBM AT&T in 92.
These were preceeded by Epson PX series of "laptops" with a landline modem in 1983. I have a PX4 purchased in 1985.
As usual M$ ia an also ran, trying to plug it's crappy stuff. The O2 line which appeared around 2002 had the bsod builtin, with a new twist. It would fry you if you did not unplug the battery when the bsod appeared. Included for free such hilarous stuff as trying to get the damned thing out of your pocket in a crowded kalyan local, before it fried your balls.
On Thursday 06 January 2011 08:46 AM, Binand Sethumadhavan wrote:
2011/1/5 Shamit Vermasubs.linux.mum@vshamit.com:
These phones support ActiveSync, which is a standard Sync protocol. Any ActiveSync software can be used to sync contacts etc.
ActiveSync is a Microsoft-proprietary protocol, available only to licensed OEMs. Hardly a "standard".
....and most non M$ sync software too require M$ Outlook. That is why I wanted to know if Android was different.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Rony gnulinuxist@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:53 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Advait Rautadvaitraut@gmail.com
wrote:
      I have my HTC Desire cellphone running android 2.2 . i
want to
sync my cellphone contacts and calender with my thunderbird or
evoluation.
is it possible by any application on linux platform. iam using fedora 14 on my desktop.
I am assuming that your mail client (Thunderbird or, Evolution) fetch the mails from an account. You'd need to figure out the details of how to synchronize/access that account rather than attempt to solve the issue of synchronize/access from the desktop application.
This is a question to all the Android users. Is this a good option or better option for LInux users? Do these phones have a 'suite' that is made for Linux? How simple and easy it is to attach an Android phone to a Linux box and use it comprehensively like a typical Nokia suite?
Well there is no application as such till now to directly attache your android phone and sync your contacts with thunderbird or evoluation. well you can connect your device as storage device and do the copy past activities. HTC doesnt provid any Suite for Linux but provides for windows it does,Known as HTC sync. where we can sync our contacts & calender with outlook.
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As a proper list etiquette... Please trim your replies. Post your replies below the relevant original text, leaving a line space. Do not re-use old messages to write new ones.
Regards,
Rony.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys, I have my HTC Desire cellphone running android 2.2 . i want to sync my cellphone contacts and calender with my thunderbird or evoluation. is it possible by any application on linux platform. iam using fedora 14 on my desktop.
There's a slightly ugly way but the one that works[1] via USB. I haven't tried with bluetooth as I don't have a bluetooth dongle.
For Contacts: a. Go to contacts. b. Click on Menu button c. Select "Import/Export Menu" d. Select "Export to SD Card". Wait for the export process to finish. e. Go to Settings -> Wireless and network -> USB Settings. Select Mass storage. f. Connect your phone to PC with USB. g. Press "Connect USB storage" button, when connected. h. Open the folder on your computer corrosponding to the SD Card. i. Right click on the exported file and select "Open with Evolution"(or thunderbird, if you like). j. Click on the Phone Book to which you want to import the Contacts.
Similar thing should work for Calendar too. There might be an easier way to sync via USB, what USB setting options does your phone have?
1. Works on Froyo in Samsung Galaxy S. Method might be slightly different on HTC Sense
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Mehul Ved mehul.n.ved@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Advait Raut advaitraut@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys, I have my HTC Desire cellphone running android 2.2 . i want to sync my cellphone contacts and calender with my thunderbird or
evoluation.
is it possible by any application on linux platform. iam using fedora 14 on my desktop.
There's a slightly ugly way but the one that works[1] via USB. I haven't tried with bluetooth as I don't have a bluetooth dongle.
For Contacts: a. Go to contacts. b. Click on Menu button c. Select "Import/Export Menu" d. Select "Export to SD Card". Wait for the export process to finish. e. Go to Settings -> Wireless and network -> USB Settings. Select Mass storage. f. Connect your phone to PC with USB. g. Press "Connect USB storage" button, when connected. h. Open the folder on your computer corrosponding to the SD Card. i. Right click on the exported file and select "Open with Evolution"(or thunderbird, if you like). j. Click on the Phone Book to which you want to import the Contacts.
Similar thing should work for Calendar too. There might be an easier way to sync via USB, what USB setting options does your phone have?
- Works on Froyo in Samsung Galaxy S. Method might be slightly
different on HTC Sense
-- With Regards, Mehul Ved -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Thanks dude... ur method works with htc desire as well.. imported all the contacts in evolution.
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