hello all. I have gone through the remastering knoppix howto manual. the manual spoke of every thing but my requirement. I want to make a customised knoppix distro that can run from a 256 mb pen drive. as I had emailed before, my talking book reader needs that. JTD, Thanks for the link for the manual. the reason I did not ask any questions for a long time is because I was confirming that I am rest ashured that my problem is unsolved in the manual before asking uselessly on this list and crowding the trafic. but alas it is indeed unsolved. I believe I will format my pen drive with ext3 or riserfs file system. mostly I will go with ext3. now my question is how do I get knoppix to boot from my pen drive. no, I don't want dam small linux or any pre customised distro. correct me if I am wrong, butdam small linux or any other custom distro will contain gnome/ KDE, office productivity, and other things which I don't need. all I need here is a simple distro with no gui. the list of requirement is as follows. 1. bash and related tools. 2. standard c libraries so that my custom c programs can run. 3. festival speach synthesizer. 4. scanning and OCR softwares. I may just choose to have the libraries without the gui interface. and if there are console based OCR softwares, nothing like it. 5. grub boot loder (I think that must be obvious, sorry to sound stupid.). 6. a menu driven program that will start instead of the bash prompt after the system auto login. I don't want user to enter any username or password. 7. python interpreter I believe with the above requirement, I think 256 mb is more than sufficient. I have seen knoppix distros of about 200 mb with gui and other stuff (except open office of course). and yes, I have mentioned before that my pen drive has booted once with a custom slackware distro. so no problems booting gnu/linux from my pen drive. the only problem I am stuck with is that I can't find a way to get the only the above mentioned apps and create a custom distro that will boot from my pen drive with ext3 file system. I want to have it come up with my menu driven application instead of the default bash prompt. can any one help out in getting this work exactly as I want? thanks and regards. Krishnakant.
krishnakant Mane wrote:
hello all. I have gone through the remastering knoppix howto manual. the manual spoke of every thing but my requirement. I want to make a customised knoppix distro that can run from a 256 mb pen drive. as I had emailed before, my talking book reader needs that.
Try these links Krish.
http://www.ing-buero-unger.de/prj/knx/index.html
http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Customizing_FAQ
http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Knoppix_Customizations
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I still can't get it. it is ok when I create a cd, but I still can't figure out for the usb drive. and to customise it as per my first email. specially not running bash is a challenge. Krishnakant
On Friday 20 October 2006 12:11, krishnakant Mane wrote:
I believe I will format my pen drive with ext3 or riserfs file system. mostly I will go with ext3. now my question is how do I get knoppix to boot from my pen drive.
Create your kernel with cloopfs, usb, usbstorage, uhci, ehci etc as modules. Create your remastered distro. Pay attention to entries in fstab and wherver ther is reference to /dev/cdrom - replace it with /dev/sda1. Create an initrd with the above modules. Follow the earlier instructions on making the usb bootable.
the only problem I am stuck with is that I can't find a way to get the only the above mentioned apps and create a custom distro that will boot from my pen drive with ext3 file system. I want to have it come up with my menu driven application instead of the default bash prompt. can any one help out in getting this work exactly as I want? thanks and regards.
So u are not exactly remastering knoppix. U will have to use gentoo to create a distro from source. Or Linux from scratch. Then tack on cloopfs. Then compress everything to a blob, add the bootloader and burn it to the usb.
On 21/10/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
So u are not exactly remastering knoppix. U will have to use gentoo to create a distro from source. Or Linux from scratch. Then tack on cloopfs. Then compress everything to a blob, add the bootloader and burn it to the usb.
why not knoppix? I am currently using oralux, which is a modified version of knoppix. it is a talking live cd. it not just comes up talking when it boots, but also gives me a menu which includes items like we get on a start menu, like the linkx browser, file browser, dropping to a shell etc. this comes up instead of bash. So I believe there must be some thing that can be done with knoppix.
On Saturday 21 October 2006 19:44, krishnakant Mane wrote:
On 21/10/06, jtd jtd@mtnl.net.in wrote:
So u are not exactly remastering knoppix. U will have to use gentoo to create a distro from source. Or Linux from scratch. Then tack on cloopfs. Then compress everything to a blob, add the bootloader and burn it to the usb.
why not knoppix?
Knoppix is a debian derivative and will haev a lot of dependencies not strictly neccessary for your task. U would therfore have to use debian fromscratch or lfs or some such. Then use the tricks used by knoppix, which is compression and decompression on the fly via cloopfs, ramdisk etc.
I am currently using oralux, which is a modified version of knoppix. it is a talking live cd. it not just comes up talking when it boots, but also gives me a menu which includes items like we get on a start menu, like the linkx browser, file browser, dropping to a shell etc. this comes up instead of bash. So I believe there must be some thing that can be done with knoppix.
Getting some set of apps to run automagically after boot is just a matter of putting scripts in /etc/init.d and links in /etc/rc2.d. very simple.
I was planning the following. have a debian installation and work from scratch. decide upon the needed packages and install them in some directory which will be used for chrooting into. once chrooted into that directory, do the required changes and then create some kind of a system to be put on the pen drive. is that possible jtd? krishnakant.
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 18:19, krishnakant Mane wrote:
I was planning the following. have a debian installation and work from scratch. decide upon the needed packages and install them in some directory which will be used for chrooting into. once chrooted into that directory, do the required changes and then create some kind of a system to be put on the pen drive. is that possible jtd?
yes. But u would require to do it from source. Which is a very major pain. So unless u are doing 10000++ installs and need to drop ram and flash sizes because of costs, it does not make sense. If u ask me a debian base install followed by cloop compression is good enough and should be able to fit into a 256MB pendrive. Also read http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_DFS/
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