Hello List,
Anyone on this list, using Triband, facing problems surfing the web? i.e. few websites open really fast, and others dont? (for e.g. mail.yahoo.co.in opens up quickly, while address.yahoo.com, or even rediff.com)
Is is because of an upgrade to 2 Mbps?
I have checked my speed using http://internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/ but it still remains 216 Kbps (download) and around 83 Kbps (Upload).
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On Tuesday 02 January 2007 09:24, Roshan wrote:
Hello List,
Anyone on this list, using Triband, facing problems surfing the web? i.e. few websites open really fast, and others dont? (for e.g. mail.yahoo.co.in opens up quickly, while address.yahoo.com, or even rediff.com)
Is is because of an upgrade to 2 Mbps?
I have checked my speed using http://internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/ but it still remains 216 Kbps (download) and around 83 Kbps (Upload).
1. The speed upgrade is only for non-unlimited accounts which means 590NU users are out of it.
2. MTNL's DNS servers suck. Use OpenDNS or run your own DNS / Caching DNS.
3. Recently Bharti, Reliance, VSNL's fibres were damaged due to an earthquake near Taiwan. So that might be one of the reasons for irregular browsing speeds.
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 11:13, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 09:24, Roshan wrote:
Hello List,
Anyone on this list, using Triband, facing problems surfing the web? i.e. few websites open really fast, and others dont?
- Recently Bharti, Reliance, VSNL's fibres were damaged due to an
earthquake near Taiwan. So that might be one of the reasons for irregular browsing speeds.
3 seems to be the problem. although dns was resolving properly, many servers were down. As of 1st Jan things seem to be ok.
jtd wrote:
3 seems to be the problem. although dns was resolving properly, many servers were down. As of 1st Jan things seem to be ok.
My client in Mulund East cannot open the mail.yahoo.com site. I get it in my pc though. This is till today 2nd Jan morning. Gmail opens properly.
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Roshan,
Quoting Roshan d_rosh2001@yahoo.co.in:
Hello List,
Anyone on this list, using Triband, facing problems surfing the web? i.e. few websites open really fast, and others dont? (for e.g. mail.yahoo.co.in opens up quickly, while address.yahoo.com, or even rediff.com)
Yes I am facing similar problems with international v/s India hosted websites.
Is is because of an upgrade to 2 Mbps?
Umm not really, something else should be of problem.
I have checked my speed using http://internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/ but it still remains 216 Kbps (download) and around 83 Kbps (Upload).
are you under DSL-NU (Night Unlimited) package ? If yes then you wont be upgraded to 2Mbps. Actually this 2Mbps plan doesnt really help coz they havent done any special thing on data transfer limit increase. 400MB can be easily consumed just in few hours on a 2mbps line. same is the case with 1GB, So thats again sad :(
I should say that along with 2Mbps govt should also mandate on increase in the default quota of 400Mb to 3.2GB coz if you increase speed by 8 times, then you should increase data transfer limits by 8 times too ALTEAST...
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I should say that along with 2Mbps govt should also mandate on increase in the default quota of 400Mb to 3.2GB coz if you increase speed by 8 times, then you should increase data transfer limits by 8 times too ALTEAST...
sounds nice, but then they would try justify a tarrif increase of ->8 times as well ;-)
Regards,
- vihan
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 15:42, Mitul Limbani wrote:
400MB can be easily consumed just in few hours on a 2mbps line. same is the case with 1GB, So thats again sad :(
erm...Assuming 70% speed ( accounting for DSL Line losses, etc, etc... ) 400MB should be consumed within 26 to 35 minutes.
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 15:55, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 15:42, Mitul Limbani wrote:
400MB can be easily consumed just in few hours on a 2mbps line. same is the case with 1GB, So thats again sad :(
erm...Assuming 70% speed ( accounting for DSL Line losses, etc, etc... ) 400MB should be consumed within 26 to 35 minutes.
That is exactly the idea. With spyware trojans lending an able hand.
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 16:17, jtd wrote:
erm...Assuming 70% speed ( accounting for DSL Line losses, etc, etc... ) 400MB should be consumed within 26 to 35 minutes.
That is exactly the idea. With spyware trojans lending an able hand.
Umm...unfortunately their tactic wont work on Linux users :P This is seriously stupid on the part of MTNL and Dayanidhi Maran... Hope this thread ( and list in general ) doesnt turn into a HATE LIST =P
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 16:46, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 16:17, jtd wrote:
erm...Assuming 70% speed ( accounting for DSL Line losses, etc, etc... ) 400MB should be consumed within 26 to 35 minutes.
That is exactly the idea. With spyware trojans lending an able hand.
Umm...unfortunately their tactic wont work on Linux users :P
Thank god.
This is seriously stupid on the part of MTNL and Dayanidhi Maran... Hope this thread ( and list in general ) doesnt turn into a HATE LIST =P
The more the bw the more the downloads. People are going to faint when they reciev their bills.
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 17:04, jtd wrote:
The more the bw the more the downloads. People are going to faint when they reciev their bills.
Can we file a PIL against them? I think the only way to fight this nonsense is through educating people about what "broadband" really is. I am really sad to say this but, even TRAI hasn't been able to curb the FUD being spread under the name of "broadband" revolution in India. 2Mbps with a 400MB monthly limit? Its just plain nonsense.
This is seriously stupid on the part of MTNL and Dayanidhi Maran... Hope this thread ( and list in general ) doesnt turn into a HATE LIST =P
The more the bw the more the downloads. People are going to faint when they reciev their bills.
Hmm... looks like someone has been giving MTNL a crash course in ruthless hardcore business. From their point of view, it can can be called corporate genius. Of course from our point of view, we are so screwed ;-)
``the one who shall abstain from bandwidth shall receive enLIGHTENment of bill" :-)
Regards,
- vihan
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 18:35, Vihan Pandey wrote:
Hmm... looks like someone has been giving MTNL a crash course in ruthless hardcore business. From their point of view, it can can be called corporate genius. Of course from our point of view, we are so screwed ;-)
``the one who shall abstain from bandwidth shall receive enLIGHTENment of bill" :-)
No...one shall hack away at the MTNL servers until it gives us unlimited downloads :P We shall take what rightfully belongs to us! :P
*prepares to get flamed!*
jtd wrote:
The more the bw the more the downloads. People are going to faint when they reciev their bills.
With the new speed of 1 megabyte in 5.14 seconds, a 700 Mb CD can be downloaded in one hour.
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On 1/2/07, Rony ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
With the new speed of 1 megabyte in 5.14 seconds, a 700 Mb CD can be downloaded in one hour.
Time to use Bandwidth traffic control (tc) and Squid delay pools. Some sites have videos on direct play mode, before you realise 4-5MBs are already downloaded. On YouTube, videos are downloaded even if you pause it, you just cant keep page open. Need to block flv and open on select basis.
Waste of time, Waste of bandwidth and waste of money.
Amish.
Amish Mehta wrote:
On 1/2/07, Rony ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
With the new speed of 1 megabyte in 5.14 seconds, a 700 Mb CD can be downloaded in one hour.
Time to use Bandwidth traffic control (tc) and Squid delay pools. Some sites have videos on direct play mode, before you realise 4-5MBs are already downloaded. On YouTube, videos are downloaded even if you pause it, you just cant keep page open. Need to block flv and open on select basis.
I have installed a plugin or addon for firefox that will not play flash files directly but give a play button that can be clicked if necessary. That blocks out flash ads in web pages.
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Rony,
Quoting Rony ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk:
I have installed a plugin or addon for firefox that will not play flash files directly but give a play button that can be clicked if necessary. That blocks out flash ads in web pages.
Why do you hide such nice utility only with yourself :P
Please share the url to download the firefox plugin (with name if possible), we all want to save a few bucks on not downloading unwanted FLA, FLV etcs.
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On 1/3/07, Mitul Limbani mitul@enterux.com wrote:
I have installed a plugin or addon for firefox that will not play flash files directly but give a play button that can be clicked if necessary. That blocks out flash ads in web pages.
Why do you hide such nice utility only with yourself :P
Tab mix plus allows per tab permission like image, plugin, javascript, frame blocking. See http://tmp.garyr.net/
but I think what Rony is talking about it something else.
Amish.
Mitul Limbani wrote:
Rony,
Quoting Rony ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk:
I have installed a plugin or addon for firefox that will not play flash files directly but give a play button that can be clicked if necessary. That blocks out flash ads in web pages.
Why do you hide such nice utility only with yourself :P
Please share the url to download the firefox plugin (with name if possible), we all want to save a few bucks on not downloading unwanted FLA, FLV etcs.
One url coming up.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/433/
Its called Flashblock.
Regards,
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--- Amish Mehta amish.misc+ilug@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/2/07, Rony ronbillypop@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
With the new speed of 1 megabyte in 5.14 seconds, a 700 Mb CD can
be
downloaded in one hour.
Time to use Bandwidth traffic control (tc) and Squid delay pools. Some sites have videos on direct play mode, before you realise 4-5MBs are already downloaded. On YouTube, videos are downloaded even if you pause it, you just cant keep page open. Need to block flv and open on select basis.
Waste of time, Waste of bandwidth and waste of money.
Amish.
I'd but in my 2 bits. Relax. Just as they offered more MB for the same price and now increased speeds for the same price, they will offer much more for the same price. And eventually do away with bandwidth restrictions. I believe they had to do this 2 MBPS to promote IPTV. (i may be wrong here about the link between iptv and 2 mbps) but lets wait and watch.
And reliance has not even started their iptv and internet services commercially yet. Once they do so too and airtel already in the fray, i can only see it getting better.
Poor MTNL. Damned if they didnt and now damned because they are doing.
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On Wednesday 03 January 2007 13:47, Abhishek Daga wrote:
I'd but in my 2 bits. Relax. Just as they offered more MB for the same price and now increased speeds for the same price, they will offer much more for the same price. And eventually do away with bandwidth restrictions. I believe they had to do this 2 MBPS to promote IPTV. (i may be wrong here about the link between iptv and 2 mbps) but lets wait and watch.
You're being overly optimistic. They are chors...!
And reliance has not even started their iptv and internet services commercially yet. Once they do so too and airtel already in the fray, i can only see it getting better.
Reliance is ready with its primary network. The secondary network is being setup ( remember the stupid wires hanging from the street lights? ).
Poor MTNL. Damned if they didnt and now damned because they are doing.
Poor?? ROTFLMAO! :P
Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 13:47, Abhishek Daga wrote:
I'd but in my 2 bits. Relax. Just as they offered more MB for the same price and now increased speeds for the same price, they will offer much more for the same price. And eventually do away with bandwidth restrictions. I believe they had to do this 2 MBPS to promote IPTV. (i may be wrong here about the link between iptv and 2 mbps) but lets wait and watch.
You're being overly optimistic. They are chors...!
At one time 2 Mbps was available as a leased line costing lakhs. After broadband, it costed more than 25K per month. Now its available for Rs. 200/- only and that is a technological dream come true. I know someone who works for Bell Canada (The BSNL of Canada) and they failed in implementing broadband over telephone. Here we are with telephone, 2 Mbps net and IPTV with 50 channels and VOD for Rs. 300/- per month ( IPTV only ). Even in the US many are still using dialup.
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On 03/01/07 22:57 +0530, Rony wrote: <snip>
200/- only and that is a technological dream come true. I know someone who works for Bell Canada (The BSNL of Canada) and they failed in implementing broadband over telephone. Here we are with telephone, 2
Bell Canada offers 10 Mbps (50 GB cap), and 16 Mbps (75 GB cap) in some areas, and 5Mbps in the rest of their territory. Upload speeds are 1Mbps. The rates are 70 CDN for 10/1 and 100 CDN for 16/1. Keep in mind that relative to Canadian income, the rates are similar to MTNL.
Mbps net and IPTV with 50 channels and VOD for Rs. 300/- per month ( IPTV only ). Even in the US many are still using dialup.
As are a lot of people in India. Pssst, I recommend looking at actual numbers, rather than relying one the evidence of one person (if you are too far away from the CO, you won't get DSL).
Vickram had posted something about broadband in Kutch on another list as well. Note the recent questionnaire put out by TRAI as well.
Devdas Bhagat
Devdas Bhagat wrote:
On 03/01/07 22:57 +0530, Rony wrote:
<snip> > 200/- only and that is a technological dream come true. I know someone > who works for Bell Canada (The BSNL of Canada) and they failed in > implementing broadband over telephone. Here we are with telephone, 2
Bell Canada offers 10 Mbps (50 GB cap), and 16 Mbps (75 GB cap) in some areas, and 5Mbps in the rest of their territory.
Through telephone lines? I thought twisted pair tel. lines had a max. possible bandwidth of 2 Mbps for ADSL.
Upload speeds are 1Mbps. The rates are 70 CDN for 10/1 and 100 CDN for 16/1. Keep in mind that relative to Canadian income, the rates are similar to MTNL.
Mbps net and IPTV with 50 channels and VOD for Rs. 300/- per month ( IPTV only ). Even in the US many are still using dialup.
As are a lot of people in India. Pssst, I recommend looking at actual numbers, rather than relying one the evidence of one person (if you are too far away from the CO, you won't get DSL).
Agreed that India is still developing but many good things are also happening and 2 Mbps at home with no investment is one of them. :)
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On 04/01/07 00:03 +0530, Rony wrote:
Devdas Bhagat wrote:
On 03/01/07 22:57 +0530, Rony wrote:
<snip> >200/- only and that is a technological dream come true. I know someone >who works for Bell Canada (The BSNL of Canada) and they failed in >implementing broadband over telephone. Here we are with telephone, 2
Bell Canada offers 10 Mbps (50 GB cap), and 16 Mbps (75 GB cap) in some areas, and 5Mbps in the rest of their territory.
Through telephone lines? I thought twisted pair tel. lines had a max. possible bandwidth of 2 Mbps for ADSL.
ADSL is 2M, ADSL+ is 24M. DOCSIS 3 allows 50/50 over coax, Ethernet is 1000/1000 over copper, 10000/10000 over fibre, and currently standards are being developed for 100000/100000 over fibre.
Upload speeds are 1Mbps. The rates are 70 CDN for 10/1 and 100 CDN for 16/1. Keep in mind that relative to Canadian income, the rates are similar to MTNL.
Mbps net and IPTV with 50 channels and VOD for Rs. 300/- per month ( IPTV only ). Even in the US many are still using dialup.
As are a lot of people in India. Pssst, I recommend looking at actual numbers, rather than relying one the evidence of one person (if you are too far away from the CO, you won't get DSL).
Agreed that India is still developing but many good things are also happening and 2 Mbps at home with no investment is one of them. :)
Erm, you mean, you had already invested in the router, and the company has recovered the cost of the telephone lines many times over.
Have you looked at France Telecom recently?
Devdas Bhagat
Devdas Bhagat wrote:
On 04/01/07 00:03 +0530, Rony wrote:
Devdas Bhagat wrote:
On 03/01/07 22:57 +0530, Rony wrote:
Agreed that India is still developing but many good things are also happening and 2 Mbps at home with no investment is one of them. :)
Erm, you mean, you had already invested in the router, and the company has recovered the cost of the telephone lines many times over.
Have you looked at France Telecom recently?
You mean this http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB114351413029509718-W1Q0hKioxsOdZ1Bs_6...
Well I wouldn't mind more for less with more competition. :)
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On Wednesday 03 January 2007 22:57, Rony wrote:
At one time 2 Mbps was available as a leased line costing lakhs. After broadband, it costed more than 25K per month. Now its available for Rs. 200/- only and that is a technological dream come true. I know someone who works for Bell Canada (The BSNL of Canada) and they failed in implementing broadband over telephone. Here we are with telephone, 2 Mbps net and IPTV with 50 channels and VOD for Rs. 300/- per month ( IPTV only ). Even in the US many are still using dialup.
Leased line isn't the same as what we have as 2Mbps...UPTO 2Mbps :P IPTV has legal issues which IIRC havent been sorted out yet. Buddy check out the tariffs of Sweden, Norway, Estonia, UK, USA :P
Hi!
On 1/3/07, Abhishek Daga <abhishekdaga at yahoo dot com> wrote:
With the new speed of 1 megabyte in 5.14 seconds, a 700 Mb CD can
be
downloaded in one hour.
I checked my connection speed today. It's only 256 Kbps (197.X Kbps to be precise). I have TB200Plan (400 MB Free).
Any thing required to be done on my D-Link DSL 502-T?
I'd but in my 2 bits. Relax. Just as they offered more MB for the same price and now increased speeds for the same price, they will offer much more for the same price. And eventually do away with bandwidth restrictions. I believe they had to do this 2 MBPS to promote IPTV. (i may be wrong here about the link between iptv and 2 mbps) but lets wait and watch.
Dream on. :-)
Poor MTNL. Damned if they didnt and now damned because they are doing.
Just speak to the people who had been at the receiving end of "Poor MTNL" ;-)
With regards,
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 22:30, Dinesh Shah wrote:
I checked my connection speed today. It's only 256 Kbps (197.X Kbps to be precise). I have TB200Plan (400 MB Free).
Any thing required to be done on my D-Link DSL 502-T?
Yes, check your line losses and SNR. Should be minimal. If not, call up MTNL and tell them to change your wire. Also ensure that there are no other lines running along your telephone line ( LAN cable etc... ).
Poor MTNL. Damned if they didnt and now damned because they are doing.
Just speak to the people who had been at the receiving end of "Poor MTNL" ;-)
No such people generally dont speak. They go on a blind rampage of death and destruction... Afterall MTNL has driven them to it. Hehehe ;)
Dear Dinesh,
On 1/3/07, Dinesh Joshi <dinesh dot a dot joshi at gmail dot com> wrote:
Yes, check your line losses and SNR. Should be minimal. If not, call up MTNL and tell them to change your wire. Also ensure that there are no other lines running along your telephone line ( LAN cable etc... ).
I am happily using TB 256 for quite some time now. My usage is very low @ home. Normally I do get speed in the range of 26-28 KBps.
When MTNL announced the upgrade I was checking the speed to see if the line got upgraded or not.
No such people generally dont speak. They go on a blind rampage of death and destruction... Afterall MTNL has driven them to it. Hehehe ;)
:-D
Touch wood... So far I have been spared by MTNL of any problems including billing. ;-)
-- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi
With regards,
Dinesh Shah wrote: [SNIP]
I'd but in my 2 bits. Relax. Just as they offered more MB for the same price and now increased speeds for the same price, they will offer much more for the same price. And eventually do away with bandwidth restrictions. I believe they had to do this 2 MBPS to promote IPTV. (i may be wrong here about the link between iptv and 2 mbps) but lets wait and watch.
Dream on. :-)
Poor MTNL. Damned if they didnt and now damned because they are doing.
Just speak to the people who had been at the receiving end of "Poor MTNL" ;-)
i've been using triband (DSL NU) for a couple of years now and only have good things to say.. exception: their DNS Cache Servers suck (run your own caching nameserver OR use opendns).
The initial installation was slightly painful (due to sarkari babus) and i had to make a few phone calls before they finally came over, but so far it is working as advertised.
Anyways YMMV / YMDV (does)
- dhawal
Dear Dhawal,
On 1/3/07, Dhawal Doshy <dhawal at netmagicsolutions dot com> wrote:
i've been using triband (DSL NU) for a couple of years now and only have good things to say.. exception: their DNS Cache Servers suck (run your own caching nameserver OR use opendns).
I have no complain about their service @ all. :-)
This just a cliche. ;-) In fact I have recommended MTNL TB to number of people and none has complained so far for bad advice. ;-)
The initial installation was slightly painful (due to sarkari babus) and i had to make a few phone calls before they finally came over, but so far it is working as advertised.
In my case... MTNL guy actually chased me to get my setup up and running!
Anyways YMMV / YMDV (does)
???
- dhawal
With regards,
Dinesh Shah wrote:
Hi!
On 1/3/07, Abhishek Daga <abhishekdaga at yahoo dot com> wrote:
With the new speed of 1 megabyte in 5.14 seconds, a 700 Mb CD can
be
downloaded in one hour.
I checked my connection speed today. It's only 256 Kbps (197.X Kbps to be precise). I have TB200Plan (400 MB Free).
Any thing required to be done on my D-Link DSL 502-T?
Hi Dinesh, just call up 1504 and tell them to speed it up. No changes needed from your end. The delay is only the practical delay that comes with upgrading a huge mass of connections. Remove all your parallel phones unless they are connected through your splitter. Buy extra splitters for extra phones if you cannot rewire. :)
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Dear Rony,
On 1/3/07, Rony <ronbillypop at yahoo dot co dot uk> wrote:
Hi Dinesh, just call up 1504 and tell them to speed it up. No changes needed from your end. The delay is only the practical delay that comes with upgrading a huge mass of connections. Remove all your parallel phones unless they are connected through your splitter. Buy extra splitters for extra phones if you cannot rewire. :)
Thx for your input. I think it's time to call 1504. I will get my wiring checked too.
Regards,
With regards,
--- Dinesh Shah dineshah@gmail.com wrote:
Dream on. :-)
Poor MTNL. Damned if they didnt and now damned because they are
doing.
Just speak to the people who had been at the receiving end of "Poor MTNL" ;-)
With regards,
--Dinesh Shah :-)
Come on now, lets be fair and give credit where due. I have been a user of vsnl(govt), then tata indicom vsnl then mtnl and now airtel too. MTNL and the old govt VSNL beat all services hands down. Excellent phone and Internet service. Prompt response. high reliability.
With Tataindicom and the likes you end up talking to some dumbasses at call centers in other random cities who can only read from a script and give you a ticket number.
With mtnl you can go to the exchange and request a quick connection and with 24 hours they install it. For any problem, they are with you within 6 hours.
Dissing mtnl and other govt organizations all the time went out of fashion a while back.
-abhishek
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Abhishek Daga wrote:
MTNL and the old govt VSNL beat all services hands down. Excellent phone and Internet service. Prompt response. high reliability.
Quoting Arun's words, It (mtnl) beats the pants off all other ISPs.
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On Wednesday 03 January 2007 23:33, Abhishek Daga wrote:
Come on now, lets be fair and give credit where due. I have been a user of vsnl(govt), then tata indicom vsnl then mtnl and now airtel too. MTNL and the old govt VSNL beat all services hands down. Excellent phone and Internet service. Prompt response. high reliability.
I dont know about VSNL but MTNL has been reliable till now ( touch wood :P ). Rest services suck big time as compared to MTNL. TATAIndicom is a BIG chor :P I have had a lot of disagreements and it went to almost to the court. MTNL gives speeds as promised but the CC is bad.
With Tataindicom and the likes you end up talking to some dumbasses at call centers in other random cities who can only read from a script and give you a ticket number.
With TATAIndicom you waste more money in waiting. The minimum waiting time to talk to a SALES exec is 20-30mins ( cost min. Rs.12 from MTNL landline + whatever time you need to talk to the ass :P ). I am sure the tech execs must be even busier.
With mtnl you can go to the exchange and request a quick connection and with 24 hours they install it. For any problem, they are with you within 6 hours.
I dont agree with you. Maybe with your exchange it might be that way but I had a big ordeal in getting my connection. It took almost 45-50 days to get it. Reason? They were behind schedule by almost a month. They didn't have modems. They lost my work order. I had to go to the exchange and talk to 10 different people to get a new work order issued! FYI, work orders are something internal to MTNL and the regular customer isn't supposed to bother about it but as its MTNL and "transparency is their policy" the customer has to bother if they lose some internal papers as well...
They are down right unprofessional. They were playing "file fights" with customer files when I went to the exchange! Yes, grown up men swatting each other with files containing their status reports, customer orders, internal memos and things...
But after all this I am pretty satisfied with everything that MTNL has given me :)
Even God must be dumbfounded as to how this damn government organization manages to function! A few good men and women I guess... ;)
'nuff ranting from me! :P
--- Dinesh Joshi dinesh.a.joshi@gmail.com wrote:
With mtnl you can go to the exchange and request a quick connection and with 24 hours they install it. For any problem, they are with
you
within 6 hours.
I dont agree with you. Maybe with your exchange it might be that way but I had a big ordeal in getting my connection. It took almost 45-50 days to get it. Reason? They were behind schedule by almost a month.
Probably bad karma then. I have dealt with 4 telephone exchanges here over the last 4 years for phones and broadband and Digital Certificates and i have only good things to say about them, right from the Divisional Engineer (internal) to the ordinary linesmen. Phone line gets installed within 24 hours to 72 hours. Internet within 24 hours to 96 hours. tickets are responded to within 6 hours in most cases. And no money changes hand at any time.
Way better than the private indian players and the likes of Comcast, AT&T, bellsouth etc.
If this doesnt qualify for professionalism then I dont know what will.
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On 03-Jan-07, at 10:30 PM, Dinesh Shah wrote:
I checked my connection speed today. It's only 256 Kbps (197.X Kbps to be precise)
how do you get this figure?
Dear Kenneth,
On 1/4/07, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc dot org> wrote:
how do you get this figure?
Check it here.
http://reviews.cnet.com/7018-7254_7-0.html?
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS lawgon@au-kbc.org http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
With regards,
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 22:30, Dinesh Shah wrote:
I checked my connection speed today. It's only 256 Kbps (197.X Kbps to be precise). I have TB200Plan (400 MB Free).
That is low even for 256kbps. You should get 29 to 30 KBytes per second -230~240kbps. download from different servers to check that it's not a server bottlenck.
Any thing required to be done on my D-Link DSL 502-T?
On 04-Jan-07, at 11:08 AM, jtd wrote:
I checked my connection speed today. It's only 256 Kbps (197.X Kbps to be precise). I have TB200Plan (400 MB Free).
That is low even for 256kbps. You should get 29 to 30 KBytes per second -230~240kbps. download from different servers to check that it's not a server bottlenck.
are the numbers that appear on the download manager any indication of speed? If you are downloading say 6 files at the same time, and the all show the same speed - what does that indicate?
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 04-Jan-07, at 11:08 AM, jtd wrote:
I checked my connection speed today. It's only 256 Kbps (197.X Kbps to be precise). I have TB200Plan (400 MB Free).
That is low even for 256kbps. You should get 29 to 30 KBytes per second -230~240kbps. download from different servers to check that it's not a server bottlenck.
are the numbers that appear on the download manager any indication of speed? If you are downloading say 6 files at the same time, and the all show the same speed - what does that indicate?
Visit http://59.185.0.26/speed/index.jsp
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Rony.
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On 04-Jan-07, at 11:55 AM, Rony wrote:
are the numbers that appear on the download manager any indication of speed? If you are downloading say 6 files at the same time, and the all show the same speed - what does that indicate?
is this accurate? my vsnl 512 kbps link shows speed of 535.44 Kbps 2 mb bsnl one shows 729.63. All this from a LAN with at least 50 other machines connected to the internet
is this accurate? my vsnl 512 kbps link shows speed of 535.44 Kbps 2 mb bsnl one shows 729.63. All this from a LAN with at least 50 other machines connected to the internet
it told me 742.57Kbps for a a 2MBps line with about 70 people on the net. Which dosn't seem to make any sense either.
Regards,
- vihan
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 04-Jan-07, at 11:55 AM, Rony wrote:
is this accurate? my vsnl 512 kbps link shows speed of 535.44 Kbps 2 mb bsnl one shows 729.63. All this from a LAN with at least 50 other machines connected to the internet
It is accurate to the point that MTNL servers are easily accessible. It simply calculates the total time taken to download a calibrated file and gives the average speed. If 2 Mb BSNL shows only 729, then its slow. It should be around 1700. VSNL could be giving you faster speeds as they use the CAT5 cable and maybe users are few.
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Rony.
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On Thursday 04 January 2007 20:26, Rony wrote:
It is accurate to the point that MTNL servers are easily accessible. It simply calculates the total time taken to download a calibrated file and gives the average speed. If 2 Mb BSNL shows only 729, then its slow. It should be around 1700. VSNL could be giving you faster speeds as they use the CAT5 cable and maybe users are few.
ADSL 2+ gives 24Mbps over the telephone line. So 2Mbps shouldn't be a problem for them...
Dear Rony,
On 1/4/07, Rony <ronbillypop at yahoo dot co dot uk> wrote:
This link is badly broken. Whenever I try, I get server exception every time I try to measure the speed. :-(
Rony.
With regards,
On 1/4/07, Rony <ronbillypop at yahoo dot co dot uk> wrote:
This link is badly broken. Whenever I try, I get server exception every time I try to measure the speed. :-(
seems to be fine at the moment, but badly written Java programs are notorious to do that.
Regards,
- vihan
Dinesh Shah wrote:
Dear Rony,
On 1/4/07, Rony <ronbillypop at yahoo dot co dot uk> wrote:
This link is badly broken. Whenever I try, I get server exception every time I try to measure the speed. :-(
Is your jsp working fine in your browser? Otherwise go to mumbai.mtnl.in and follow the links under the 'broadband' listing.
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Rony.
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On Thursday 04 January 2007 20:28, Rony wrote:
Is your jsp working fine in your browser? Otherwise go to mumbai.mtnl.in and follow the links under the 'broadband' listing.
jsp == java server pages. They dont require Java to be loaded at the client side. So the problem might be on the server side. If they load a java applet in the browser and use it to calculate speed then I guess the client's installation can be questioned...
Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Thursday 04 January 2007 20:28, Rony wrote:
Is your jsp working fine in your browser? Otherwise go to mumbai.mtnl.in and follow the links under the 'broadband' listing.
jsp == java server pages. They dont require Java to be loaded at the client side. So the problem might be on the server side. If they load a java applet in the browser and use it to calculate speed then I guess the client's installation can be questioned...
He may have disabled javascript in Firefox.
Regards,
Rony.
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On Thursday 04 January 2007 11:28, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 04-Jan-07, at 11:08 AM, jtd wrote:
I checked my connection speed today. It's only 256 Kbps (197.X Kbps to be precise). I have TB200Plan (400 MB Free).
That is low even for 256kbps. You should get 29 to 30 KBytes per second -230~240kbps. download from different servers to check that it's not a server bottlenck.
are the numbers that appear on the download manager any indication of speed? If you are downloading say 6 files at the same time, and the all show the same speed - what does that indicate?
If you mean wget then that will show you the speed for the file it is downloading. If u start another instance with another file the two should half the aggregate. Also from man wget when using --proigress= "When using the dotted retrieval, you may also set the style by specifying the type as dot:style. Different styles assign different meaning to one dot. With the "default" style each dot represents 1K, there are ten dots in a cluster and 50 dots in a line. The "binary" style has a more ``computer''-like orientation---8K dots, 16-dots clusters and 48 dots per line (which makes for 384K lines). The "mega" style is suitable for downloading very large files---each dot represents 64K retrieved, there are eight dots in a cluster, and 48 dots on each line (so each line contains 3M)."
Other gui downloaders i don't know.
On Thursday 04 January 2007 11:28, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
are the numbers that appear on the download manager any indication of speed? If you are downloading say 6 files at the same time, and the all show the same speed - what does that indicate?
use iftop. It's pretty good.
yum install iftop
apt-get install iftop
emerge iftop
whatever....
On 04-Jan-07, at 12:13 PM, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
are the numbers that appear on the download manager any indication of speed? If you are downloading say 6 files at the same time, and the all show the same speed - what does that indicate?
use iftop. It's pretty good.
yes - and wildly different speed from what that mtnl meter shows
On Thursday 04 January 2007 12:38, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
use iftop. It's pretty good.
yes - and wildly different speed from what that mtnl meter shows
I know but iftop is more accurate as it measures actual data rate at your interface while I dunno what MTNL servers do :P
On 04-Jan-07, at 12:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
use iftop. It's pretty good.
yes - and wildly different speed from what that mtnl meter shows
iftop shows 37 kbps and mtnl meter shows 285.91 - aha, found the culprit. When iftop is run to show kilobits per second instead of kilobytes per second, then the numbers are the same as MTNL. So is broadband kiloBITS or kiloBYTES?
On Thursday 04 January 2007 12:48, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
iftop shows 37 kbps and mtnl meter shows 285.91 - aha, found the culprit. When iftop is run to show kilobits per second instead of kilobytes per second, then the numbers are the same as MTNL. So is broadband kiloBITS or kiloBYTES?
you mean to say iftop shows 37KBps ( KiloBytes/s ) and MTNL meter shows 285.91Kbps ( Kilobits/s ). So iftop says your connection speed is 296Kbps ( note the small b ) while MTNL says its 286Kbps. Not much difference. iftop still more accurate :P
BTW broadband speeds are always specified in bits and not bytes...
On Thursday 04 January 2007 12:48, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 04-Jan-07, at 12:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
use iftop. It's pretty good.
yes - and wildly different speed from what that mtnl meter shows
iftop shows 37 kbps and mtnl meter shows 285.91 - aha, found the culprit. When iftop is run to show kilobits per second instead of kilobytes per second, then the numbers are the same as MTNL. So is broadband kiloBITS or kiloBYTES?
suspect that MTNL speed site shows the instataneous speed for a set of small packet. Hence it will always show near maximum bandwidth. This is almost always in Kbps - K=kilo b=bits. Also the speed shown is from the MTNL server to your machine - two or three hops, and will be quite ok. The congestion is upstream on the international wire. However wget displays KBps - K=kilo B=bytes - which is the average of very many packets. And it's the throughput from the download server and all the intermediate routers which will be many many hops. The method of trying to use small packets (like ping) to check bandwidth or latency is poor practice.
On Thursday 04 January 2007 13:13, jtd wrote:
However wget displays KBps - K=kilo B=bytes - which is the average of very many packets.
A slight correction the summary generated at the end of the transfer shows the average of very many packets BUT while downloading it shows the instantaneous transfer speed.
On 1/4/07, Kenneth Gonsalves lawgon@au-kbc.org wrote:
On 04-Jan-07, at 12:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
use iftop. It's pretty good.
yes - and wildly different speed from what that mtnl meter shows
iftop shows 37 kbps and mtnl meter shows 285.91 - aha, found the culprit. When iftop is run to show kilobits per second instead of kilobytes per second, then the numbers are the same as MTNL. So is broadband kiloBITS or kiloBYTES?
It is allways kiloBITS & not kiloBYTES it is like 37 kB (kiloBytes) & 285.91kb (kiloBits)
Mitul Limbani wrote:
I should say that along with 2Mbps govt should also mandate on increase in the default quota of 400Mb to 3.2GB coz if you increase speed by 8 times, then you should increase data transfer limits by 8 times too ALTEAST...
My gut feeling is that since the Govt. has decided to make 2007 the year of broadband, prices will come down, meaning higher limit for the same cost. It is better not to make haste and go for higher capacity schemes immediately. Wait and watch.
Regards,
Rony.
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Roshan wrote:
Is is because of an upgrade to 2 Mbps?
I have checked my speed using http://internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/ but it still remains 216 Kbps (download) and around 83 Kbps (Upload).
It is temporary. By now you must be already upgraded to high speed. My speed is now 1.745 Mbps. Internet kya bhaag rela hai!
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Rony.
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