Fsf-friends October 2004

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Testing, Please ignore
by Nagarjuna G. 18 Oct '04

18 Oct '04

Please ignore this mail, Admin

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[Fwd: [LIH]Red hat -- License]
by Dileep M. Kumar 17 Oct '04

17 Oct '04

Hello, Could some body clarify this topic. To my knowledge Om Logistics has done one of largest implementation of Free Software in business. He has one copy of RHEL (purchased). He is installing that on 600 machines, which Redhat India says is illegal. Regards -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dileep M. Kumar || dileep AT kumarayil DOT net || www.kumarayil.net Our future depends on our philosophy - Richard M Stallman ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi all, I have 600 computers running on Red Hat Linux, after discussions from Red Hat persons, I come to know that my linux deployment is illegal, because I have not purchased enough licenses from Red Hat. But as per GPL, I can copy / Redistribute the software after modification / without modifications. So I just want to know that Red Hat Linux is available under GPL or not. Till date I understand that I have to pay for the support. In case I need support, I have to pay otherwise I don't require to pay any thing. Please advise, [S K Goel]

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Broadband Policy 2004
by Rakesh 'arky' Ambati 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Hi, As you know our government released the Broadband Policy for the year 2004.The 25 page e-doc is available at http://www.dot.gov.in/. It would a pleasure to listen to your comments on it. Cheers --arky ===== ____________________________________ /\ \ \_| Rakesh 'arky' Ambati | | Bangalore (INDIA) | | Homepage: http://arky.port5.com/ | | _______________________________|_ \_/_________________________________/ _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com

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IOSN FLOSS primers
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 15 Oct '04

15 Oct '04

Please visit http://www.iosn.net The IOSN is producing a series of primers on Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS). The primers serve as introductory documents to FOSS in general, as well as covering particular topic areas in greater detail. Their purpose is to raise FOSS awareness, particularly among policy-makers, practitioners and educators. FOSS General Introduction Primer FOSS in Education Primer FOSS Government and Policy Primer Pre-publication copy for public review and feedback FOSS Licensing Primer Draft for public review and feedback ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick Noronha (FN) Nr Convent Saligao 403511 GoaIndia Freelance Journalist P: 832-2409490 M: 9822122436 http://www.livejournal.com/users/goalinks http://fn.swiki.net http://www.ryze.com/go/fredericknoronha http://fn-floss.notlong.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Difficulties to send email across? Write to fredericknoronha at vsnl.net ============================================================================

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IBM in pact with C-DAT, IIT Mumbai
by Ramanraj K 14 Oct '04

14 Oct '04

The Hindu reported that IBM is in pact with C-DAT, IIT Bombay <quote> Chennai: The Centre for Development of Advance Computing (C-DAT), IIT Bombay and IBM India signed a co-operation agreement to institute an open source software resource centre. With an investment of over Rs. 5 crores, the centre will mark the beginning of a series of inititatives to develop OSS activities in India. </quote> Open source is an open process, and probably we would know more the initiatives soon.

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Memo to CSIR
by Raj Singh 14 Oct '04

14 Oct '04

Hello, I work with a CSIR lab. If required, I can supply the proper addresses and names of persons within the CSIR system (Members of Governing Council, DG-CSIR's office, Directors of various labs, etc.) to whom the memo should be sent (this could be discussed off-line from the list). -- Raj +---------------------------------------------------+ | Raj Singh | EMAIL : raj(a)ceeri.ernet.in | | IC Design Group | PHONE : 01596-242359 (office) | | CEERI | : 01596-252542 (home) | | Pilani -- 333 031 | FAX : 01596-242393 (office) | +---------------------------------------------------+

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Debian Distribution
by Annamalai Gurusami 14 Oct '04

14 Oct '04

Hi All, At the following URL, titled "Vendors of Debian CDs" http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/#in GNU India Organisation (http://www.gnu-india.org) is listed as one of the vendors. I think the above URL belongs to FSF India, and they are not vendors of any distribution (AFAIK). Any comments? Probably what is there at debian website is quite outdated. Rgds, anna

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[Fwd: Re: [Fsf-friends] joining forces]
by Ramanraj K 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] joining forces Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:15:38 +0530 From: Ramanraj K <ramanraj(a)md4.vsnl.net.in> To: fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in References: <416736CB.5040901(a)md4.vsnl.net.in> <4167E4F1.5060109(a)flashmail.com> <4168BACA.3070503(a)md4.vsnl.net.in> <20041010070242.GA11424(a)nandini.home> Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > In fact, in light of this event, I think the time is right now ripe > for this community to take the initiative and ask them to open up > their previous works in localisation field. The IBM sponsored project > will provide resources for the future. I am afraid that the past works > might remain locked, and we need to ensure that it is publicly > available. > > In light of the recent opportunity I had to interact with the NCST > division of C-DAC, I notice an enthusiasm among its staff and officers > who are well aware of the underlying philosophy and community building > aspects of the Free Software movement. All that is required is only a > small nudge and a bit of push to institutionalise the approach, for > the bureaucrats and the babus are no push overs. Hence, we need to to > guide them in the right direction. > > How do we go about it? > Raj Mathur has been asking for publication of accounts etc. If we could dispose such requests first, then we should be able to ask others to do the same, with more conviction. Having access to information would help us to act upon it in a better way. FSF India could play a major role in channelising dev and advocacy efforts. Drafting petitions and memorandums to have our requests processed, would be the main channel of making suitable requests. Yesterday, Raman.P., of ILUGC, suggested that free software user groups in India join together to form an association. While software cos. have NASSCOM, software user groups have no corresponding association that could effectively air their views and needs. In the free software community, the line between developers and users is virtually non-existent, and FSF India could lead in co-ordinating all the free software user groups, including LUGs that are willing to join. Most user groups meet once a month, and discuss over mailing lists also, and hence important issues could be discussed at all LUGS and based on consensus, better representations could be sent to authorities.

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Re: Re: [Fsf-friends] IBM in pact with C-DAT, IIT Mumbai
by Kanti Jadia 10 Oct '04

10 Oct '04

hi, NCST is managing the .in domain , so it will/has to be around. http://domain.ncst.ernet.in/ my two cents Kanti On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 Ramanraj K wrote : > > > > Are you really sure? CDAC stands for the Centre for Development of > > Advanced Computing. I wonder what the hyphen is doing in C-DAC. If > > needless hyphens are ok, I prefer to call it C-DA-C :) The CDAC website > > seems to be ncst.ernet.in. So, the ghost of NCST: National Centre for > > Software Technology is still around. > > > >Sivasankar wrote: ><quote> > On acronyms: CDAC was originally called C-DACT from 1986-1988, before >getting a name change to CDAC, when 18 months of their original time-bound >mission had elapsed without anything concrete having been accomplished. > > NCST is the organization orginally called NCSDCT, and they're the >grand-daddies of Unix adoption in India. In short, it's good to have >NCST involved, but of course, it's even better to just give the money >to the LUGs :-). We can do a better job popularizing FLOSS. > ></quote> >I whole heartedly agree with Sivasankar :) > > >_______________________________________________ >Fsf-friends mailing list >Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in >http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends ----------------------------------------- Enjoy your Freedom,use GNU/Linux. http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html -----------------------------------------

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Re: [Fsf-friends] IBM in pact with C-DAT, IIT Mumbai
by paivakil＠vsnl.net 10 Oct '04

10 Oct '04

----- Original Message ----- From: Ramanraj K <ramanraj(a)md4.vsnl.net.in> > > Did you mean C-DAC or did they change names (like ER&DCI and NCST)? > > The Hindu reported "C-DAT" and I am not sure if CDAC has some > sub-division that is called C-DAT or if it is a mere spelling mistake. Do not be elated. I was at the meeting at Hyatt. It indeed is, err ... ummm.. ah... the C-DAC. But then, this project is handled by thee division formerly called the NCST, which has been merged into C-DAC. Unfortunately, the original C-DAC continue their old `non-philosophy'while the (erstwhile) NCST is changing with the times, and right now, the `open source' phase of migration (of philosophies, that is). After my and Nagarjun's (what I believe is) useful interaction with the NCST people who will be handling the project, I hope they will realise the difference. Further hopefully, the director of C-DAC has publicly acknoowledged during his address at the meet that there _is_ a difference between linux and GNU/Linux. ;-) So, let us be optmistic that CDAC will mend its old ways.

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