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From: "IT@School" <itschool(a)asianetindia.com>
To: <manjushmenon(a)hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:08 PM
Subject: Reply
> Mr.Manjush G. Menon
> We are not giving to depend totally on Ms. Products. Rather MS
> Office is taught along with open office and Windows along with Linux
> from this year. Arranging the resource persons for training an open
> software, making available the software, the maintenance of a help desk
> etc. are logistical issues which could not be immediately undertaken.
> We plan switch out to open software within three years.
> Executive Director
>
---- Original Message -----
From: Manjush G. Menon
To: itschool(a)asianetindia.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:46 PM
Subject: Respected sir,
From
Manjush G. Menon,
Sr.Programmer,
Sofker Solutions Pvt Ltd,
Kochi-18.
To
The Executive Director,
'IT @ SCHOOL' Project,
SCERT Buildings,
Poojapura,
Thiruvananthapuram-12.
Respected sir,
SUB: In protest against the inclusion of products from multinational companies
in the syllabus of 'IT @ SCHOOL'
It's a very dissappointing fact that when the whole world is moving towards
Free software, we at kerala are going behind a major MNC - Microsoft. I hereby register
my protest in such an act from 'IT @ SCHOOL' Project team.
Breaking of prototypes will definetly help us in finding economical and high quality
products for our future generation.
For students and programmers, the GNU Linux contains 'GNU Compiler Collections'
which includes C, C++, FORTRAN, PERL, TCL etc. Also, for DTP and other publishing purposes,
it includes GNU Office utilities like Abi-Word, gedit, and other worksheet utilities,
all these with a nominal cost of Rs 700-800/-. The software as it is, is free and
the cost is accounted towards the media (CD + Documentation) included.
By this letter, I urge you to take this matter seriously and suggest necessary modifications
in the action plan of 'IT @ SCHOOL' project.
Wishing you all the best and wishing all 'Students @ SCHOOL' a bright future,
Thanking you,
Yours faithfully
Manjush G. Menon.
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Re the request by Microsoft to speak at the Hyderabad usergroup on DotNet,
I think a similar topic was presented at LinuxBangalore in 2002 or 2003.
I wonder how someone like RMS would respond to such a development, which
seems to me like an 'embrace and extend' style of combatting GNU/Linux. FN
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I also think that they be allowed to talk about .Net, but on the basis
of mono .Net which is a completely free (GPLed) .Net platform
originally developed by Ximian (now owned by Novell).
http://www.mono-project.com/about/index.html
<quote>
Mono is a comprehensive open source development platform based on the
.NET framework that allows developers to build Linux and
cross-platform applications with unprecedented productivity. Mono's
.NET implementation is based on the ECMA standards for C# and the
Common Language Infrastructure.
Sponsored by Novell and led by Miguel de Icaza, the Mono project has
an active and enthusiastic contributing community. Mono includes both
developer tools and the infrastructure needed to run .NET client and
server applications.
</quote>
Regards
Praveen A
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:58:27 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya
<sandip(a)lug-delhi.org> wrote:
> Ramanraj K wrote:
> > My two cents. If someone from MS is going to talk about an MS only
> > product or MS only tools that are not OSS (and have no direct
> > relevance to the lug), however technical it might be, I think the
> > answer should be NO. Same goes for a Mac. IMHO, that is completely
> > off-topic for a LUG. LUGs are not only-tech-groups. There are
> > certain philosophies and common sense rules that we do follow.
>
> We have had quite loud discussions in this matter at ILUG-Delhi. The
> general consensus is that private sponsorship is acceptable, there will be
> no opportunity for any vendor to talk about proprietary products.
>
> Talking about .Net is a bit into the gray area though, because it has some
> relevance to the Mono community. However, a condition can be put, that the
> only implementations that can be demonstrated, would be using FOSS
> toolkits, and not using Visual Studio IDE or the MS command line .Net
> compiler. I personally believe this is a reasonable condition, which wont
> let other people complain that we are "prejudiced to the company".
>
> - Sandip
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Subject: Re: [Ilugc] [Fwd: [Fsf-friends] Re: DotNet]
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:59:09 +0530
From: Prabhu Ramachandran <prabhu_r(a)users.sourceforge.net>
To: kumarayil(a)asianetindia.com
CC: ilugc(a)ae.iitm.ac.in
References: <4180E9F3.6000605(a)asianetindia.com>
Hi,
>>>>> "DK" == Dileep M Kumar <kumarayil(a)asianetindia.com> writes:
>> If anybody has serious objections (that is they DONT want the
>> >Microsoft person to speak) regarding this please let me know.
DK> I do like to point out that in a not-so-recent interview to
DK> one of the computer magazines in India (forgot which, might
DK> have been PCQuest or something), Microsoft India's
DK> some-big-shot mentioned (not in so many words) that part of
DK> their strategy in India is to "infiltrate" the LUGs and slowly
DK> brainwash these LUGs into being MUGs (Microsoft User Groups -
DK> pun intended :) . Let us not be the first or only LUG to fall
DK> into that trap.
My two cents. If someone from MS is going to talk about an MS only
product or MS only tools that are not OSS (and have no direct
relevance to the lug), however technical it might be, I think the
answer should be NO. Same goes for a Mac. IMHO, that is completely
off-topic for a LUG. LUGs are not only-tech-groups. There are
certain philosophies and common sense rules that we do follow.
As regards MS's strategy to 'brainwash' lug members. Hehe, nice try.
Its dumb plans like these that really get my rolling my eyes over.
The significant thing about OSS is that the bar to entry is very low
and the distribution mechanisms allow me to scratch my itch and let
others use the tools I built in that process to scratch theirs. Its a
community from the ground up. Any community that is based on a policy
of unmotivated mutual help and sharing builds an extremely strong and
robust emotional bond. The instant you bring a company to the party
that does not understand this, the company will be simply ignored like
an outsider in a family affair.
This is simply not a community that revolves around a mega-corp whose
raison d'etre is to make a profit and please its shareholders. This
is the definition of a successful company and MS is probably one of
the most successful ones around. So if MUGs are to be as successful
and meaningful to their members as LUGs then MSFT would cease to exist
(atleast in its current form). Heads I win, tails you lose.
cheers,
prabhu
Joe Steeve wrote:
> However, I have a irky feeling about this entire DotNET and how M$
> is making M$As to make it popular in academic institutions. These
MS is paying these Student Ambassadors for their activities.
Regards
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