Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
> Ramanraj K said on Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 07:25:53PM +0530,:
>
> > I'll attend. We also need to present a memorandum.
>
> Please take a look at
> http://puggy.symonds.net/~fsug-kochi/mass-memo.html
Mahesh, please point to links that describe the current curriculum for
computer science for IT@School. History is repeating itself again, in TN
now :)
While the Govt. of Kerala has provided the infrastructure required for
IT@Schools, here in TN, Computer Science infrastructure _and_ teaching
_may_ be handed over to proprietary concerns.
Elcot should be asked to do what Keltron has already done for Kerala:
<quote from www.keltron.org>
Involved in the introduction of GNU History in curriculum of IT@School
project.
Involved in the introduction of GNU Linux Operating System to new
Curriculum.
Supplied Hardware with preloaded GNU Linux Operating system and other
Applications to IT@ school project.
Training in GNU LINUX platforms for government employees and other
organisations Various training courses on GNU Linux and other free
software tools
Various training courses on GNU Linux and other free software tools like
PHP, Perl, Python, MySQL, PostgreSQL etc.
</quote>
The proposed program schedule of Elcot is at:
http://www.elcot.com/ncce/prog-schedule.htmhttp://www.elcot.com/ncce/prog-schedule-day2.htm
<quote>
Day 2, 25th September, Saturday, 2004
Venue : Hotel Trident Sheraton , Chennai
0930 to 1100 hrs International models in Computer Education
Invited Presentations from 3 speakers of - INTEL / Microsoft / Apple
</quote>
It should be interesting to hear about the plans the special invitees
from Microsoft and Apple have in mind for our school children. The
whole idea appears to be to _give_ information to the delegates and I
am not sure if the program schedule seriously allows delegates to
address on the issues within the allotted two half hours of "moderated
open discussion".
Further, it has been reported that:
"Private companies in computer education have brought in the hardware,
software and the staff to teach the course framed by the State
Government. Thus the schools get the benefit of computer education
without the government bearing any recurring expenditure. This is a
model that other States are hoping to follow."
As you know, attempts like this in the US have been rejected as
unethical and monopolistic.
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-276058.html?legacy=cnethttp://news.com.com/2100-1001-808241.htmlhttp://www.defenselink.mil/dodgc/defense_ethics/2004_Advisories/ADV_0402.htm
BTW, www.elcot.com has announced that:
National Conference on Computer Education in Schools
is being postponed & will be rescheduled to another date
I hope that the plans change as well, for the better :)
Meanwhile, we could send in a memorandum to the school authorities in
TN, on the lines of your earlier memo to school authorities in Kerala,
to pre-empt any decision allowing propreitary concerns to take over
teaching of Computer Science.
Thanks to George Lessard for posting this across. FN
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PERUVIAN EFFORT COULD BAN MICROSOFT ON GOV. COMPUTERS
Peruvian Congressman Edgar Villanueva is pushing legislation to obligate all
public institutions to convert exclusively to open-source software.
Open-source programs, embodied by the Linux operating system, have
underlying code available to anyone who wants to modify or customize it.
Such software, in unadorned form, can be downloaded from the Internet for
free. Villanueva hopes his measure triggers activity in Peru's software
industry by freeing programmers from the constraints of working with coding
controlled by a few large companies. Open-source could take the expense out
of software upgrades; which is important for a country like Peru that owes
about $30 million in overdue software license fees.
[SOURCE: San Jose Mercury, AUTHOR: Associated Press]
(http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/news/3531007.htm)
Sir, The page below requires me to use Flash:
http://rajyasabha.nic.in/bills-ls-rs/bills-ls-rs-main.htm
and in this manner, the GoI is forcing me to utilise costly proprietorial
software which I dislike using.
I would request you to ensure that your website is accessible to everyone,
even if they are not using Microsoft and other proprietorial technologies.
Please base your website on open standards. FN
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Hello All,
Tamil Nadu Government is conducting a conference in Chennai. The aim
of this conference is finalize the syllabus for the Higher secondary
school classes (11th and 12th Std).
Organized by : Elcot
Venue : Trident Hilton
Date : 24th(Fri) and 25th(Sat) Sep 2004
Registration : Call Elcot Office @ Anna Salai, Chennai.
Last Date : 20th(Mon) Sep 2004
Fee : Rs 500/- (For IT Professional)
: Rs 750/- (For Govt and Edu Professional)
NOTE: TN Govt is going to implement this syllabus during the next Edu
year in (nearly) 1200 Schools. I hope, this right place to
introduce the FSF/OSS to the TN Government.
If anybody is going to attend this Conf, Plz inform to list. :)
Bye :)
--
Bharathi S
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Indic Localizers Meet
Date 18th-19th September, 2004
Venue - Homi Bhabha Center for Science Education, TIFR,
Mankhurd, Mumbai, directions
http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/Data/Objects/contact
Planning for Indic L10n teams meet.
Online meet on next Monday, 13th September, from 3pm - 9pm IST ,
at #indlinux on irc.freenode.net .
Agenda: Discuss Agenda points and schedule
IRC Logs (RAW)
* IndicMeetLog <http://www.indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/IndicMeetLog>
- 3pm-9pm (16th August)
Minutes of meetings
* IndicOnlineMeetMinutes
<http://www.indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/IndicOnlineMeetMinutes> (
16th August )
Meeting Agenda
Get all Indic L10n teams to meet and
* discuss current status
* share individual roadmaps
* discuss interaction and collaboration protocols with international
bodies/maintainers
* share experiences
* chalk out a common roadmap based on consensus decision
* work on l10n guide, status document
* discuss and put in place Usability Metrics for L10n Projects
* discuss the methodology of creating Test Cases for L10n Usability
* discuss vertical domains where L10n customisation could be coming
in handy
* discuss and brainstorm and implementation aspects of L10n Projects
* identify areas where implementation could be immediately visible
* discuss and arrive at a consensus on formation of a common
platform (see next bullet)
* get onto forming a legal body , aka Indic computing consortium
(something like that) along with charter and mandate for the same
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Meeting Schedule
17th September
Evening - Outstation participants arrive in Mumbai - Dinner
Day 1 - 18th September
* 8AM - 9 AM - Breakfast
Session I
* 9 AM - 9:30 AM - Workshop starts, introductions, Initial address
and objectives of workshop.
*
9:30 AM - 11:15 AM - Presentation / Talk by Language teams ( 15
mins each )
o Teams to present: Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Kannada,
Marathi, Malayalam
* 11:15 - 11:30 - Tea/Coffee Break
*
11:30 - 1 PM - Team presentations/Talks continue
o Teams to present: Punjabi, Oriya, Telugu, Tamil, Urdu, CDAC
/ TDIL
* 1 PM - 2 PM - Lunch
Session II
* 2 PM - 5 PM*
*
2PM - 2:45 PM Pending Issues
o Locale definitions, Collation
o Text rendering issues/bugs
o Indic Unicode Issues
o Input Methods
o Fonts
*
2:45pm - 3:30pm Prospective Issues
o Spellchecker
o Dictionary / Lexicon
o Translation management tools
* 3:30 - 3:45 - Tea/Coffee Break
*
3:45 - 4:15pm Testing
o Why and what need testing
o Indic test framework
*
4:15 - 5:00pm Usability
o Usability studies
o Workshops
* 5:00 - 5:30 - Open discussion
* 5:30 break for the day
* 8:00 pm - Dinner
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Day 2 - 19th September
* 8 AM - 9 AM - Breakfast
Session III
*
9 AM - 9:30 AM - Documentation
o Indic Handbook docs - Language/Script info, Font docs
o Howtos - for different tasks
*
9:30 - 10:15 AM - Packaging and Distribution Issues
o Packaging Indic stuff
o Building an Indic distro - GRIND
o Live CDs
*
10:15 AM - 11:00 AM Deployment
o Having Indic widely available and used.
o Activities to increase awareness and usage.
o Discussion
* 11:00 - 11:15 AM - Tea/Coffee Break
*
11:15 - 1 PM - Theme talks (15 mins each)
o participants please propose if you want to talk on
something, and which has not been covered in prev sessions
* 1 PM - 2 PM - Lunch
Session IV
* 2 PM - 3 PM - Future Roadmap for GNULinux Localization
* Task list / TODO list
* Timelines for above
*
3 PM - 3:30 PM - Consortium Meeting
o The need and objectives of forming a consortium
* 3:30 - 3:45 - Tea/Coffee Break
* 3:45 - 4:45 - Consortium Discussion
* 4:45 - 5:00 PM - Meet closing
* Participants depart
* 8:00 PM - Dinner
20th Morning - participants depart.
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Participants (confirmed)
Language wise list
* Bengali - Ankur group - Sayamindu Dasgupta, Sankarshan
Mukhopadhyay/Runa Bhattacharjee, Indranil Das Gupta
* Gujarati - Utkarsh - Nirav Mehta, Ankur Patel
* Hindi - IndLinux <http://www.indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/IndLinux>
- G Karunakar, Ravishankar Shrivastava
* Kannada - Pramod Raghavendra, Hari Prasad Nadig
* Marathi - Indictrans - Jitendra Shah, Swapnil Hajare
* Malayalam - SMC group - Mahesh T Pai , Arun M
* Punjabi - Punlinux, Amampreet Singh Alam
* Oriya - oriya.sarovar.org - Gora Mohanty
* Telugu - ?
* Tamil - Tamillinux team - R Hariram Aatreya, N Jayaradha
* Urdu - Ravikant Sharma
Others
* Nagarjuna G - FSF India, TIFR
* Prakash Advani - Onward Novell India
* Venky Hariharan - Red Hat India
* Abhijit Dutta - IBM India
* Dr Om Vikas - TDIL, MIT, GOI
* Hema Murthy - ?
<http://www.indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/TeNet?action=create>_TeNet_,
IIT Chennai
* Alka Irani - CDAC
* M Sasikumar - CDAC
* Michael Sauntak - Burmese Localization
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S2S2 in association with Science Park, Kannur is organising A Seminar plus Awareness program on Free Software & GNU/Linux for memebers of teachers association, KSTA.
Date -12th Sept Sunday
Venue- Science Park, Kannur
Time - Afternoon.
I have installed & tested the "Softexam" GNU/Linux version, released by directorate of education. It is found to be working O.K in Gnu/Linux. As root user it works, but in LTSP clients there are problems. Note that it is not a free software!!.
Sujeevan
S2S2.
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Hi friends,
We are in need of a tool like ScreenCam. This will help us in making
tutorials for IT@School and similar projects.
Some design work has been done. If any of the members interested in its
development please write to me offlist. The complete project will
include,
1. A screen capturing tool
2. Standalone player
3. Various output plugins
4. Editing suit for voice over and interaction.
If some students wants to take this as collage project that will be
useful.
regards,
arun.
Hi Friend,
Sorry for not keeping you all updated.
We are having lot of work in Kerala.
Yesterday we organised a workshop for Journalists jointly with Working
Journalists association. It was poorly attended due to other reasons
like another parallel event and journalist here in Kerala were having
lot of work for last few days. But those who came really enjoyed the
workshop. They went back with a commitment to free software movement.
They have demanded their association to have another workshop on free
software.
Kerala is now seeing strong debate on local body computerisation and
free software. A study conducted by a group (i was also there) exposed
the fact that local body computerisation pilot effort is a failure and
state wide rollout based on this shouldnt happen. Government is planning
for a state wide rollout of Rs 150 crore e-gov program on M$ platform.
We have to stop this.
Arun.