Fsf-friends July 2005

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Hi good morning
by satish reddy 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

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Meet the Brand New Fedora with great features
by Praveen A 14 Jul '05

14 Jul '05

Hi all, Meet Fedora Core 4 http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/ Meet Fedora™ Core 4 by Colin Charles - What's new<http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/#new> - Desktop improvements<http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/#desktop> - GCC <http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/#gcc> - Java enablers<http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/#java> - A new architecture<http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/#new-arch> - Xen and virtualization<http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/#xen> - Trimming the fat<http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/#trim> - Fedora Extras<http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/#extras> - Fedora documentation<http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/#docs> - Further reading<http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/fc4/#further-reading> What's new Fedora Core 4 (Stentz) is the latest release, from the project sponsored by Red Hat Inc. Every new version of Fedora Core comes with interesting new features and many bug fixes, but this time another new entity— Fedora Extras—also comes to greet us. "Fedora Core 4 continues our tradition of syncing to the latest and greatest open source releases, including GNOME(r) 2.10, KDE 3.4.0, Firefox™ 1.0.4, OpenOffice.org <http://OpenOffice.org> 1.9.104, and a 2.6.11-based kernel," Red Hat desktop team lead Havoc Pennington said. This is a great release. And I hope you all would like it. It is a special release with Free Java from the GNU project. Now Eclipse and Open Office runs on GCJ (GNU Compiler for Java). Regards Praveen A -- "GNU is the system, and Linux is the kernel." A proud GNU user http://www.gnu.org My Weblog at http://www.pravi.co.nr Rediscover the web ! Get firefox at http://www.getfirefox.com Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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Songs of Liberation from Thiruvasagam
by Ramanraj K 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

"The East and the West have influenced one another in a very real and not yet thoroughly understood way from the earliest times": thus wrote Rev. Dr. G.U. Pope in his introduction to the translation of Thirukkural in 1886. The symphonic oratorio "Thiruvasagam" by Ilaiyaraaja with the Budapest Symphony Orchestra, conducted by László Kovacs, released on 6th July, 2005 at Chennai, brings out the confluence of the East and West Pope deeply felt, through a rich classical musical cross-over, in ways words can never describe. Hats off to Ilaiyaraaja, László Kovacs, Richard King, Stephen Schwarts, Budapest Symphony Orchestra and all the other musicians for their brilliant work. This delightful masterpiece cost more than Rs. one crore to produce. Tamil Maiyam founded by Fr. Jegath Gaspar Raj, its producer, is looking forward to income from album sales and donations, but it would be a blessing, if many orgs and govs could join together, pay the outstanding debts of Tamil Maiyam reported to be around Rs. 75 lakhs, and have the work released under a suitable creative commons license. There are about 51 chapters in the Thiruvasagam, and the album is a fine selection of only choice verses presented as six songs. A cc license should help many musicians to join the project, and soon set entire work Thiruvasagam of Thiru Manickavasagar in symphony. A brief intro to the songs: Song #1 The album begins with the verse "poovar senni mannan..." which is about the "last journey" towards "ultimate liberation", and it is also believed to be the last composition by Manickavasagar, on the last day of his life on earth. The score for this song is quite naturally set to a score that reminds of "poom poom dan dans" - the sound which anyone in this part of the world can instantly recognize as a pointer to a death in its vicinity, and that the last rites and rituals are in progress. It seems, when the recording started at Budapest with this song, the score sounded funny to some in the orchestra, who tried to hide their laughter. Illayaraja observed this, and immediately sung the verse explaining it, and the orchetra understood and briskly started with the business of bringing Manickavasagar back to life again. Song #2 The entire album is sweet as honey, but at about the 5th minute of this song, the first stanza of Thiruvasagam, "Namasivaya vazhga, nathan thal vazhga.." comes, and this is very easily the best part of the album, a little more sweet than the rest. Illyaraja has freely arranged the various verses, to convey meaning even through the topography and arrangement of verses. Ilaiyaraaj and Roy Harcourt sing mixing Tamil and English verses creating a very deep and stunning effect. A brief snapshot from the lyrics, translated by Stephen Schwarts: <quote> I'm just a man imperfect lowly, how can I reach for something holy? ... So many forms I must wear! So many lives I must bear! Grass and shrub and stone and tree! Worm and bird and beast and demon heaven the sky and turn the earth how long till I'm fin'ly worthy?... Hail! Hail! ... I am beginning to be free... </quote> The symphonical oratorio is a rich tribute especially to Rev. Dr. G.U. Pope who translated the entire work of Thiru Manickavasagar. (Available online at http://siddhanta.shaivam.org/thivacha.html ) We could be certain that Manickavasagar would have composed his verses with our traditional music in mind, but for sure, Pope had only a western symphony in mind as he worked on the translations. The frequent "Hail" we come across succintly summarises the essence of "Namasivaya Vazhga" and other praises, and sets the work in symphony with great effect. Song #3 pooerukonum Purantharanum is yet another sweet composition picturising a king bee singing praises. Song #4 Umbarkatkarrsaey Song #5 Manickavasagar paints a picture of women pulverising gold and perals to dust with ural and ulakkai (pestle and mortar), singing Muthu Natramam in praise of their lord. At the inauguration, this song was enacted on stage by a classical troupe, and at the same time a pair danced swift ballet moves sharing the stage with them. Song #6 This is like a "hello world" introduction to setting Thiruvasagam into symphony. Ilaiyaraaja takes a simple score, searches for suitable verses and finally finds that the verse beginning "putril vazh aravum anjen.." fits the score rather well, and finishes the album with great grace. He makes the whole exercise appear very easy and simple, but none other than the mastero could have undertaken the task of setting the fairly difficult classical tamil verse of Thiru Manickavasagam, that is more than 2000 years old, into symphony. More stories and resources at: http://www.hindu.com/2005/06/06/stories/2005060612390600.htm http://nowrunning.com/news/news.asp?id=3650 http://www.tis-usa.com/2004/06/project.html http://www.tamilmm.com/ http://siddhanta.shaivam.org/thivacha.html Enjoy :)

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Fwd: [Ilugc] EU Software patents directive crushed!
by Ramanraj K 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sivasankar Chander <siva.ilugc(a)gmail.com> Date: Jul 6, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: [Ilugc] EU Software patents directive crushed! To: Chennai Linux User's Group <ilugc(a)ae.iitm.ac.in> Folks, Great news! The EU software patents bill was crushed by a huge margin today: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4655955.stm Let's toast RMS and numerous grassroots campaigners who got the message across clearly and effectively. Cheers! -Siva P.S. We still need to be on guard to ensure that this is not sneakily introduced in India. _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-request(a)ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe <password> <address>" in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

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Join the campaign against "Software Patents"
by Ramanraj K 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

I had forwarded a cc to Holger Blasum, one of the maintainers at ffii.org, wishing them more victories on this front. He requests Indian entities also to join the campain against "software patents" by signing up at http://www.economic-majority.com/ Please do so, as India or Europe being free from "software patents" is not sufficient, and soon enough the scene should shift to the US. If you distribute your software in the US, then the campaign is immediately relevant to you. It is ironical that such a campaign has to be done in US, which was once upon a time, a model state for the ultimate in liberty and freedom, but today, it stands as a symbol for a shackled state with all its "Software Patents", DMCA, DRM and even more unconceivable things like corporate run "prisons" (California alone has 21 (yes, twenty-one) mostly corporate run prisons and more about this at: http://improbablevoices.net/intro_frameset.html ). Digital anarchy and industrial prisons make a deadly and dangerous combination making it a serious concern to netizens. Fortunately, these aberrations are very recent, and could be nipped in the bud. Your participation could make a big difference to the momentum of the movement, that may help in restoring sanity where it is most required. Ramanraj. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: EU Software patents directive crushed in the flat new world] Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 00:41:35 +0200 From: Holger Blasum <holger(a)blasum.net> To: Ramanraj K <ramanraj.k(a)gmail.com> CC: campaign(a)codeliberty.org References: <42CF50FD.400(a)gmail.com> On 07-09, Ramanraj K wrote: > <quote> > Declaration > > Our enterprise is worried about plans to legalise patents on software > solutions ("computer-implemented inventions"). > > We rely on software copyright. We need to be sure that we own what we > write. > > We need to be sure that we can publish and distribute our own programs. > > We need to be sure that, as long as we respect the rules of copyright, > we can run any software on any office or network computer. > > We urge legislators to confine the patent system strictly to the > limits of applied natural science. In principle, only knowledge which > had to be obtained through costly experiments with forces of nature > should be eligible for the broad, slow and expensive monopoly > protection which the patent system offers. > </quote> Note that care has taken (unlike petition.eurolinux.org) to make this pledge perfectly signable everywhere you want ... Indian companies are welcome too ;) -- Holger Blasum +49-174-7313590 gsm SMEs are the economic majority. +49-89-420959220 http://www.economic-majority.com/ GnuPG 1024D/ACDFC3B769DC1ED66B47

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by swathantra software 09 Jul '05

09 Jul '05

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MIT releases Software Tools for Hindi and Tamil
by Ramanraj K 08 Jul '05

08 Jul '05

Ministry of Communications & Information Technology, Government of India, has released Software Tools and Fonts for Hindi and Tamil. Except OpenOffice, FireFox and and few other software packages, most of the other packages are proprietary software that require Microsoft Windows. It is shocking to see our government promoting proprietary software packages and licenses this day, this way. None of the proprietary tools distributed by MIT can be called "free" as they require _Windows_ 95/98/* to run. The other strange thing is that some of the tools released can be used only for "Personal Use" (See a sample license in the footnote) If the idea is to promote the use of Hindi, Tamil and other languages, then the restrictions imposed by the non-free licenses are clearly opposed and against the objectives. If we desire to promote Hindi or Tamil or any other language for that matter, we ought to encourage their free use in all our public affairs with freedom, which could be done best only with Free Software. Most of the language tools could be used on Windows but not on Gnu/Linux or any other operating system. Even OpenOffice, FireFox and any of the other few free software tools are shown as applications that run on Windows, and (btw?) on "Linux". If public funds have been utilised for producing the language tools, then they ought to be released under free licenses. MIT should distribute only free software that is vendor and platform neutral, giving people the tools and freedom to communicate in their mother tongue, both in private and public affairs through digital medium. Regards, Ramanraj K. Footnotes: One sample license found in the distro: <quote> Copyright © 2005 Language Technologies Research Center International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderabad, India All Rights Reserved. This license applies to Text to Speech and Speech databases developed by Language Technologies Research Center, International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderabad, India. These are herein referred to as the "Software". Subject to the terms and conditions of this license International Institute of Information Technology Hyderabad hereby grants you to use this Software solely for your Personal Use. "Personal Use" means use of this Software by an individual solely for his or her personal, private and non - commercial purposes. An individual's use of this software in his or her capacity as an officer, employee, member, independent contractor or agent of a corporation, business or organization (commercial or non - commercial) does not qualify as Personal Use. This Software is protected by copyright law and treaties. Reproduction or distribution of this Software or any portion of it with out the permission of International Institute of Information Technology Hyderabad may result in civil and criminal penalties and will be prosecuted. THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY HYDERABAD AND THE CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS WORK DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE, INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS, IN NO EVENT SHALL THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY HYDERABAD NOR THE CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTUOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. </quote>

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[Fwd: [eGovINDIA] Microsoft + ISCE ..../ One of the reasons we find Microsoft curriculum in schools - indeed !! / " Charges against CEO true: ISCE panel ".]
by Ramanraj K 08 Jul '05

08 Jul '05

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [eGovINDIA] Microsoft + ISCE ..../ One of the reasons we find Microsoft curriculum in schools - indeed !! / " Charges against CEO true: ISCE panel ". Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:10:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Venkat Kumaraswamy <ellakannada(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: eGovINDIA(a)yahoogroups.com To: eGOV Gok <egovgok(a)yahoogroups.com>, eGov INDIA <egovindia(a)yahoogroups.com>, ellakavi(a)yahoogroups.com The Times Of India - Bangalore Edition date July 6,2005 -page 12 carries a report whose headlines says " Charges against CEO true: ISCE panel ". This is not what's interesting . A bullet points says that the ISCE(India School Certificate Examination) CEO has been found gulity of getting Rs 3 lakhs from Microsoft !! One of the reasons we find Microsoft curriculum in schools - indeed !! --------------------------------- Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eGovINDIA/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: eGovINDIA-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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comments for "gnulinuxclub.org"
by gaurav 02 Jul '05

02 Jul '05

Dear friends, GnuLinuxClub.org <http://GnuLinuxClub.org> is a non-profit, volunteer driven organization dedicated to the propagation and usage of Gnu/Linux and Free Software. The organization tries to provide support to the Gnu/Linux community as well as to increase the usage of Gnu/Linux among the general computer users community After receiving comments from your side and from RMS ,we realized that we were creating a mistake when we talk about Gnu/Linux and leave out free software from it. Our website aims to help out all Gnu/Linux users technically but we also want to make them aware of Gnu/Linux and free software. For the same we have made some changes to our website and since it under development so we could afford to make the required changes. the slogan of our website has been changed to "its all about freedom" with reference to http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/freedom-or-power.html We have introduced a new section for free software where we aim to answer the basic questions regarding free software We have mentioned about Gnu/Linux in our "why gnulinux" section We have mentioned it quite clearly in our "Gnu/Linux distros" section regarding Free Gnu/Linux and non-Free Gnu/Linux distros Here, we require your help We can find a list of Free Gnu/Linux distros but what about non-free Gnu/Linux distros can we just say that since slackware 10.1 contains a package "xv" which is not free so Slackware in non-free Gnu/Linux distro what more additions do you suggest? regards gaurav masand webmaster:gnulinuxclub.org <http://gnulinuxclub.org>

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Re: Fsf-friends Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2
by kumar p.k. 02 Jul '05

02 Jul '05

Dear Brother, Hope u r fine. 1)First u call me. 2)I would like to know how much amount u want to transfer ? 3)Givew your full address and Phone number immediately. 4)I am ready to help u.but it should not make any harm to me. bye KUMAR fsf-friends-request(a)mm.gnu.org.in wrote: Send Fsf-friends mailing list submissions to fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fsf-friends-request(a)mm.gnu.org.in You can reach the person managing the list at fsf-friends-owner(a)mm.gnu.org.in When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fsf-friends digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE (kumar p.k.) 2. FSFIndia in LFY (Frederick Noronha (FN)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:05:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "kumar p.k." Subject: [Fsf-friends] RE To: fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in Message-ID: <20050701070558.36516.qmail(a)web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 kumar_physio(a)yahoo.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 00:27:05 +0530 From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" Subject: [Fsf-friends] FSFIndia in LFY To: FSFFriends Message-ID: <1120244225.3757.19.camel(a)localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Just a short note to say the July issue of Linux For You is scheduled to carry a story on FSFIndia. Some of the inputs for the piece were collated by me, though I don't know what play the editorial will give this story. Anyway, do lookout for it. The issue is just out from the press, I'm told ... haven't seen it myself. FN -- Frederick Noronha (FN) Independent Journalist ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends End of Fsf-friends Digest, Vol 27, Issue 2 ****************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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