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RE: [Fsf-friends] Tamil translation for "free software"
by vinuraj.maroli＠wipro.com 05 Jan '04

05 Jan '04

Do we really require a regional language translation for this. To my opinion, its more important to convey the meaning of free or freedom in FSF's context to the people. Also adapting the english usage of free software to regional languages as such would give us an edge as we will have a common notation irrespective of the languages, which will make things more easier. This is my personal feeling as I don't have idea of the technicality of languages, and I feel adapting a word from another language will not do any harm, instead its one way enriching the language. ( Oxford dictionary now contains quite a lot of indian language words like guru). regards Vinu -----Original Message----- From: fsf-friends-bounces(a)mm.gnu.org.in [mailto:fsf-friends-bounces@mm.gnu.org.in] On Behalf Of Dileep M. Kumar Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:16 AM To: fsf-friends(a)gnu.org.in Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Tamil translation for "free software" On Sun, Jan 04, 2004 at 01:01:01PM +0530, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: >>>I am not tamil speaking, but am familiar with it. `Viduthalai' >>>reminds me me of `independence' and 'liberation'. The concept of >>>freedom is better conveyed by the term 'swatantrayam', whatever way >>>you spell it. In Malayalam we can call Free Software as "Swatantra Ganana Soothram". What do other Malayalees in this list say ? Regards -- .''`. Dileep M. Kumar <dileep(a)kumarayil.net> : :' : http://www.kumarayil.net `. `'` Mobile: 98474-47437 `- Debian GNU/Linux - Choice of the Freedom Lovers _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender at Wipro or Mailadmin(a)wipro.com immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.

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Opinion submitted to government of India
by Krishna Pagadala 04 Jan '04

04 Jan '04

I was thinking that the opinion (http://fsf.org.in/philosophy/mitrules.html) did not mention "accountability to citizens" as the reason governments should be using free software. I as a citizen have the right to audit the government. Thanks Krishna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003

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RE: [Fsf-friends] Tamil translation for "free software"
by Senthil_OR＠Dell.com 04 Jan '04

04 Jan '04

> -----Original Message----- > From :Krishna Pagadala > --- Richard Stallman <rms(a)gnu.org> wrote: > > rahulsundaram(a)yahoo.co.in wrote: > > > > Tamil is rather than 'viduthalai' > > as mentioned here > > (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html). > > > > Do people agree? > > I would think YES. 'sudanthiram' perfectly translates > to 'swatantra' > > Free software is translated as > # Tamil: Viduthalai > it should be > # Tamil: Sudanthiram software Yes, I agree. Free Software in Tamil should be _Sudanthiram_ Software and NOT viduthalai. There are lot of difference between the two words if you contemplate. Viduthalai would be like Freedom from some form of a clutch. Sudanthiram signifies Freedom as a concept.

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Re Look Back
by doxa＠sancharnet.in 02 Jan '04

02 Jan '04

More authentic reports on the developments are at http://proposicion.org.ar/doc/noticias-web.html CK Raju

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A Look Back of Last Year
by Senthil_OR＠Dell.com 02 Jan '04

02 Jan '04

This Article gave a Birds eye view of happenings last year. http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=281 Was an excellent read. Hope you all enjoy it and Wish you all a Hacking GNU year! Senthil http://usr.blogspot.com

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Wishes from S2S2
by Sujeevan Pullanhiotan 01 Jan '04

01 Jan '04

A very HAPPY & SUCCESSFUL New year to all. ()^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^() Year 2003 is past. It is time for reflection and action for time ahead. I wish all the visionaries, developers & users of Freedom Software a great success for the year 2004. Special thanks and wishes to FSF India group who made it a point to get Free Software included in School syllabus first time in Kerala(Probably first in India). I feel it is one of the greatest success for FSF India. Experience of the past year shows that children, parents & teachers here are now aware that there are "computers that will work without Microsoft". For many this awareness itself is a piece of brand new knowledge. Schools in general are getting to know more about it. Of course as usual with any change, there are difficulties, confusion, politics, groups, hard core oppositions, allegations and other intricacies. But in general there is a welcoming change. Schools even received circulars asking them to use OpenOffice. Is is good. Let's hope it will do more good in coming years. For year 2003, Swathantra Software Solutions & Support(S2S2) at Kannur did provide substantial support in helping schools to learn about Free Software. And we are looking forward to do more & more service. ------------------------------------------------- Summary of the major service we offered for 2003: ------------------------------------------------- 1) Installed & setup LTSP servers & etherbooting diskless clients for large no of govt.schools of Kannur. 2) Conducted GNU/Linux orientation program for school teachers. 3) Helped schools to make use of old unused 486 machines as diskless clients( Edayanoor High school is the first to make use of the old 486 machines as full fledged workstation). 4) Helped schools to install GNU/Linux network and Provided constant user support. 5) Provided training on "Use & Installation of GNU/Linux" to members of Kudumbasree unit from Wyanad, Malappuram & Kasagrgod districts 6) Conducted seminar & live demo on Free Software & Education Utilities to college & Schools of remote areas. 7) Distributed GNU/Linux and application CDs 8) Help & Support to home users ------------------------------------------ Doing Service that makes the difference. ------------------------------------------- Regards & best wishes to all Sujeevan .P Swathantra Software Solutions & Support( S2S2) Munderi, Kannur Kerala httpl//s2s2net.netfirms.com

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happy new year
by fjsylvester 31 Dec '03

31 Dec '03

wishing all fsf-friends Happy & Properous New Year regards sylvester

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RMS travel,
by Arun M 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

Hi, An update on RMS's program. 16-22 Jan - WSF 23-27 Jan - Trivandrum. 28-2 Feb - Delhi. In trivandrum one program is EMS Memorial lecture organised by Kerala University. Arun.

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RE: [Fsf-friends] Free(dom) Software?
by Senthil_OR＠Dell.com 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

> -----Original Message----- > From: Raman.P > --- Krishna Pagadala > > I am calling "free software" as "freedom software" > > these days. This is to emphasize that we are talking > > about freedoms, this way I am able to avoid the idiom > > ``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as in ``free > > beer.'', and I hope that the idiom will become > > unnecessary. > > > > > > Also in written communication, I am writing > > "Free(dom)" instead of "Free", should I just be using > > "Freedom". Please let me know. > > > > RMS, if you are reading this. Do you have any > > opinion on this usage? > > > > I am using Free(dom) term for nearly two years in all my talks in > schools/colleges and organisations. I found it convenient and the > message is driven easily. The term "Freedom Software" is really good. If it had been used intially, It could have perhaps ( In my opinion) 1) Conveyed the Meaning of the movement 2) Could have avoided all the Open Source Software Vs Free Software (term tussles) 3) No child process of the name FLOSS RMS, Did you think of using term "Freedom Software" for the entire concept? I am yet to find your comments (on www) regarding this. -Senthil

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RE: [Fsf-friends] Debian
by Senthil_OR＠Dell.com 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

> > can any one share a copy of debian latest for free I shall pay up > > for courier charges > > Visit this URL. And I am sure you would like the deals. > > http://lincds.com Also : http://www.ilug-margao.org/html/cd_library.htm here It is like Rs.30/- per CD. Good go.

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