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Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard
by Anivar Aravind 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

microsoft is now on the similar kind of lobbying with BIS (Beuro of Indian Standards) to make OOXML as a standard. I feel FSF must campaign on this. Anivar Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard http://www.noooxml.org/petition 1. There is already a standard ISO26300 named Open Document Format (ODF): a dual standard adds costs, uncertainty and confusion to industry, government and citizens; 2. There is no provable implementation of the OOXML specification: Microsoft Office 2007 produces a special version of OOXML, not a file format which complies with the OOXML specification; 3. There is missing information from the specification document, for example how to do a autoSpaceLikeWord95 or useWord97LineBreakRules; 4. More than 10% of the examples mentioned in the proposed standard do not validate as XML; 5. There is no guarantee that anybody can write a software that fully or partially implements the OOXML specification without being liable to patent damages or patent license fees by Microsoft; 6. This standard proposal conflicts with other ISO standards, such as ISO 8601 (Representation of dates and times), ISO 639 (Codes for the Representation of Names and Languages) or ISO/IEC 10118-3 (cryptographic hash); 7. There is a bug in the spreadsheet file format which forbids to enter any date before the year 1900: such bugs affects the OOXML specification as well as software versions such as Microsoft Excel 2000, XP, 2003 or 2007. 8. This standard proposal has not been created by bringing together the experience and expertise of all interested parties (such as the producers, sellers, buyers, users and regulators), but by Microsoft alone.

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Erroneous term in Article "Open it Up" - Is a software patent an oxymoron? - Issue: July 15 2007
by Roshan 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Kind Attn: Author/Reporter - Kushan Mitra An article on Software Patent and a report covering Eben Moglen's speech in India is printed on Page 58 of Business Today, issue dated: July 15, 2007. The article refers to Prof. Eben Moglen as one who is associated with "Open Source", rather than "Free Software" Apart from this, the GNU GPL is not mentioned clearly and loosely referred to as General *Purpose* License, instead of GNU General Public License (www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html) It is requested that authors reporting about events such as these kindly refer to appropriate websites and the press section of them to write about Free Software. -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger.yahoo.com/download.php

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Re: [InteRider] Job opportunities on Mifos Open Source Project
by Frederick Noronha [फ़र ेदरिक नोर ोनया] 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

Sure, you can find some of the best techies via the Free Software/Open Source networks. And you can find links to some such networks at http://wikiwikiweb.de/LugsList -- with a focus on South Asia, but a few links beyond too. FN On 04/07/07, Emily Tucker <emily(a)emilytucker.com> wrote: > Hi Frederick, > > Yes-- we're definitely open to finding technical resources in country! > > Given the high demand for technical talent in India, however, it's actually been quite hard to find someone with the required skillsets for this position. We've been looking in Nairobi as well, but again, haven't come across many suitable candidates. Thanks for forwarding these positions to the mailing lists above-- they look like they might be great resources for us. > > If you have any ideas or leads, please send them my way. > > Thanks! > Emily. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fredericknoronha(a)gmail.com > > [mailto:fredericknoronha@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Frederick > > Noronha [???????? ???????] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:26 PM > > To: Emily Tucker; fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in; > > africasource2-l(a)lists.tacticaltech.org; kenyalinux(a)yahoogroups.com > > Cc: interider(a)npogroups.org > > Subject: Re: [InteRider] Job opportunities on Mifos Open > > Source Project > > > > Given the growing tech skills in Bangalore and Kenya, > > wouldn't it make sense to look for suitable candidates in the > > region itself? BTW, even Bangladesh has an impressively-sized > > GNU/Linux movement. FN > > > > On 03/07/07, Emily Tucker <emily(a)emilytucker.com> wrote: > > > Hi e-Riders, > > > > > > I've been lurking on this list for many years now and have enjoyed > > > watching the community grow. After almost 4 years, now, I > > suppose I > > > should probably introduce myself. :-) > > > > > > I'm a technical program manager at Grameen Foundation-- we support > > > microfinance organizations (MFIs) around the world by providing > > > funding, training, and technical support. I work > > specifically on the > > > Mifos project (http://mifos.sourceforge.net) which is an > > Open Source > > > MIS system Microfinance organizations can use to manage > > their operations. > > > > > > We have several positions open on the Mifos team. Two are > > full-time > > > positions based in Seattle (although there's the option of working > > > remotely from the Bay Area): > > > http://www.grameenfoundation.org/jobs/mifos_program_mgr_prod_dev/ > > > http://www.grameenfoundation.org/jobs/tpm_mifos/ > > > > > > But the two opportunities I think would might be of particular > > > interest to this group are 6 month in-country consulting > > gigs-- one in > > > Bangalore, India and the other in Nairobi, Kenya-- > > providing technical > > > support to our MFI clients that are deploying Mifos and documenting > > > lessons learned and posting them back to the community: > > > > > http://www.grameenfoundation.org/get_involved/career_opportunities/con > > > su lting_opportunities/mifos_tech_consult_india/ > > > > > > > > http://www.grameenfoundation.org/jobs/consulting_opportunities/mifos_t > > > ec > > > h_consult_kenya/ > > > > > > These are all dream opportunities for the right person. > > Please feel > > > free to pass along these positions to those in your > > network. If you > > > have any questions, you can contact me directly. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Emily. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > > interider(a)npogroups.org > > > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > > > interider-unsubscribe(a)npogroups.org > > > > > > For all list information and functions, including changing your > > > subscription mode and options, visit the Web page: > > > http://npogroups.org/lists/info/interider > > > > > > > > > -- > > FN: Frederick Noronha > > http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts > > Phone 0091-832-2409490 Cell: 091-9822122436 or 9970157402 > > (after 1 pm) A film on copyright! GOOD COPY BAD COPY: a > > documentary about the current state of copyright and culture. > > http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/ > > -- FN: Frederick Noronha http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts Phone 0091-832-2409490 Cell: 091-9822122436 or 9970157402 (after 1 pm) A film on copyright! GOOD COPY BAD COPY: a documentary about the current state of copyright and culture. http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/

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Does Microsoft have nowhere to run?
by Praveen A 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

http://www.fsdaily.com/Adoption/Does_Microsoft_have_nowhere_to_run/ -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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An award...
by Frederick Noronha [फ्र ेडरिक नोर ोंया] 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

I think FSF-India has done a lot of useful work, and someone on this network should consider proposing its name for the http://www.manthanaward.org/ FN -- FN: Frederick Noronha http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts Phone 0091-832-2409490 Cell: 091-9822122436 or 9970157402 (after 1 pm) A film on copyright! GOOD COPY BAD COPY: a documentary about the current state of copyright and culture. http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/

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Re: [InteRider] Job opportunities on Mifos Open Source Project
by Frederick Noronha [फ्र ेडरिक नोर ोंया] 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Given the growing tech skills in Bangalore and Kenya, wouldn't it make sense to look for suitable candidates in the region itself? BTW, even Bangladesh has an impressively-sized GNU/Linux movement. FN On 03/07/07, Emily Tucker <emily(a)emilytucker.com> wrote: > Hi e-Riders, > > I've been lurking on this list for many years now and have enjoyed > watching the community grow. After almost 4 years, now, I suppose I > should probably introduce myself. :-) > > I'm a technical program manager at Grameen Foundation-- we support > microfinance organizations (MFIs) around the world by providing funding, > training, and technical support. I work specifically on the Mifos > project (http://mifos.sourceforge.net) which is an Open Source MIS > system Microfinance organizations can use to manage their operations. > > We have several positions open on the Mifos team. Two are full-time > positions based in Seattle (although there's the option of working > remotely from the Bay Area): > http://www.grameenfoundation.org/jobs/mifos_program_mgr_prod_dev/ > http://www.grameenfoundation.org/jobs/tpm_mifos/ > > But the two opportunities I think would might be of particular interest > to this group are 6 month in-country consulting gigs-- one in Bangalore, > India and the other in Nairobi, Kenya-- providing technical support to > our MFI clients that are deploying Mifos and documenting lessons learned > and posting them back to the community: > http://www.grameenfoundation.org/get_involved/career_opportunities/consu > lting_opportunities/mifos_tech_consult_india/ > > http://www.grameenfoundation.org/jobs/consulting_opportunities/mifos_tec > h_consult_kenya/ > > These are all dream opportunities for the right person. Please feel > free to pass along these positions to those in your network. If you > have any questions, you can contact me directly. > > Cheers, > > Emily. > > _________________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > interider(a)npogroups.org > To be removed from the list, send any message to: > interider-unsubscribe(a)npogroups.org > > For all list information and functions, including changing > your subscription mode and options, visit the Web page: > http://npogroups.org/lists/info/interider > -- FN: Frederick Noronha http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts Phone 0091-832-2409490 Cell: 091-9822122436 or 9970157402 (after 1 pm) A film on copyright! GOOD COPY BAD COPY: a documentary about the current state of copyright and culture. http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/

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Fwd: Launch of GNU GPLv3
by Frederick Noronha [फर ॆडरीक नोर ोनया] 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Peter Brown <peterb(a)fsf.org> Date: 28-Jun-2007 00:42 Subject: Launch of GNU GPLv3 To: info-gnu(a)gnu.org, info-fsf(a)gnu.org, info-member(a)gnu.org On Friday, June 29, at 12 noon (EDT), the Free Software Foundation will officially release the GNU GPL version 3. Please join us in celebration as we bring to a close eighteen months of public outreach and comment, in revision of the world's most popular free software license. Beyond the creation of an improved license, the process of drafting version 3 has helped highlight vital issues for the community of free software users. This is a moment to thank the thousands who participated by commenting on the license, and those that represented stakeholders through the GPLv3 committee process. Now with the release of GPLv3, we will see new defenses extended to free software. These defenses will continue the long history of fighting all efforts to make free software proprietary. Please join us as we stream live footage of Richard Stallman announcing GPLv3 from Noon (EDT) at www.fsf.org. If you are in the Boston area you can also join us at the FSF offices from 11:30am. Please let us know at <info(a)fsf.org> if you would like to attend. -- Peter T. Brown Executive Director Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St. 5th Floor Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA Media contact for this event: Brett Smith 617-542-5942 brett(a)fsf.org About the FSF The Free Software Foundation, founded in 1985, is dedicated to promoting computer users' right to use, study, copy, modify, and redistribute computer programs. The FSF promotes the development and use of free (as in freedom) software--particularly the GNU operating system and its GNU/Linux variants--and free documentation for free software. The FSF also helps to spread awareness of the ethical and political issues of freedom in the use of software. Their Web site, located at www.fsf.org, is an important source of information about GNU/Linux. Donations to support their work can be made at http://donate.fsf.org. Their headquarters are in Boston, MA, USA _______________________________________________ GNU Announcement mailing list <info-gnu(a)gnu.org> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnu -- FN: Frederick Noronha http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts Phone 0091-832-2409490 Cell: 091-9822122436 or 9970157402 (after 1 pm) Copying a film on copyright! GOOD COPY BAD COPY: a documentary about the current state of copyright and culture. http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/

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Eben Moglen on the GPLv3 process
by Praveen A 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

....... Capital wasn't what the system required to operate. What it required to operate was proof of concept, and it could be scratched. Running code - something that began scratching the itch, however badly, and a community of people who wanted to see it through. So what GPL3 meant was, proof of concept + running code + presence of community. The concept had been proven already, by GPL2. That is, the substantive concept - we could make a set of rules for sharing that would make it possible to produce software all around the world that would be of ultimately high value, but could be offered to anyone free of charge - and provided with immense freedom to study, modify, and share. There was running code - we worked very hard for almost 2 years to produce a first discussion draft of GPL3, which we unveiled on January 18th of 2006 at MIT - and there was a community; many communities, in fact. But their convocation for the purpose of legislation was a unique event. Every other week for the past 18 months, we've convened a conference call of 21 of the largest IT Vendors in the world. Those companies, whose names are household familiar in every household and business familiar in every business. Working in teams that varied from one person from some of the companies, to five or six in others. Carefully studying every single word, commenting as though their lives depended upon it - as in some of the businesses they did. On every detail of the license's functioning in the global IT economy. We also convened, every other week, a conversation among 24 of the largest users of software in the world. Banks and brokerages, government agencies, and the lawyers who acquire software on their behalf. We consulted every single week with the leadership of large free software projects around the world, some of whom use GPL and some of whom only interact with GPLd code. We spoke to hackers of enormous influence in the community, influence they have gained by their skill in programming and by their willingness to share. By their selflessness in helping others learn, and by the extraordinary wit and intellect whereby they have produced miracles out of thin air for all of us to use for years. We conducted public meetings on every continent, save Antarctica. We negotiated ceaselessly with people over what they needed, what they wanted, what they doubted, what they feared, what their concerns were, and in the end - that's now I'm speaking of, this week, between now and Friday, the license gets itself finished and comes out the door as a final product - in the end, we got agreement. We got consensus. Those who predicted at the beginning of this process that it would dissolve into flame wars, or bad netiquette, or some screeching meltdown benefiting only the monopolists were wrong. I admit that there were days when I feared that they might be right - it was no cakewalk - but everyone who engages in legislation knows that it's never a cakewalk, and almost never pretty. What is interesting about the legislative experience we've just gone through is how little of it, however, had the ultimate ugliness of legislation as we know it in the public sphere. ............ This is only the gist of the talk, read the full transcript http://jeremiad.org/moglentext.shtml Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ്‍ അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്‍ Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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FOSS projects with NRCFOSS
by Vikram Vincent 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Hi all, I know this is the off-season for college projects but I think that an early start is always good. My mail is intended to motivate students in the 3rd-4th year Engineering or any IT related course, who are considering Free/Open Source Software(FOSS) as an option, to sign up with the NRCFOSS project at Anna University-K.B.Chandrashekar(AU-KBC) Research Centre. For more details please check out http://www.au-kbc.org/nrcf/index.htm A small FAQ on the Students' fellowship scheme: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/faq/2/ The NRCFOSS helpline: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ If you have project ideas you would like to share then please do sign up on the wiki and jot down your project proposal or if you want to join up with an ongoing project then do let us know that too here: http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/wiki/ProjectIdeas If you have any queries please feel free to mail me at: Vikram Vincent < vincentvikram(a)au-kbc.org> It will be great if you can circulate this mail on other mailing lists and among your college mates and friends so that they too may be able to benefit from it. Thanks. -- Regards Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://groups.google.com/group/bangalore_alive/ http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Campaign_to_promote_free_software_in_karnataka

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lug info needed for northern india
by Kussh Singh 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

are there any lugs in chandigarh, haryana, punjab etc? kussh -- -- www.vcn.bc.ca/citizens-handbook.

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regarding fsug bangalore web pages
by Vikram Vincent 30 Jun '07

30 Jun '07

Hi all, I was going through http://wikiwikiweb.de/LugsList and found that only FSUG-Banglore has a gnu.org.in link as such http://bangalore.gnu.org.in/ It is a pity that the pages cannot be updated and we do not even know whom we have to contact to do the needful. In jest, "will the real slim shady please stand up". -- Regards Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://groups.google.com/group/bangalore_alive/ http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Campaign_to_promote_free_software_in_karnataka

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[Fwd: [Info-gplv3] Final text of GPLv3 and LGPLv3]
by Anivar Aravind 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

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[Fwd: [Info-gplv3] FSF releases the GNU General Public License, version 3]
by Anivar Aravind 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Info-gplv3] FSF releases the GNU General Public License, version 3 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:32:48 -0400 From: GPLv3 Information <info-gplv3(a)gplv3.fsf.org> Reply-To: webmaster(a)gplv3.fsf.org To: info-press(a)gnu.org, info-fsf(a)gnu.org, info-gplv3(a)gplv3.fsf.org, info-gnu(a)gnu.org, info-member(a)gnu.org BOSTON, Massachusetts, USA -- Friday, June 29, 2007 -- The Free Software Foundation (FSF) today released version 3 of the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL), the world's most popular free software license. "Since we founded the free software movement, over 23 years ago, the free software community has developed thousands of useful programs that respect the user's freedom. The programs are in the GNU/Linux operating system, as well as personal computers, telephones, Internet servers, and more. Most of these programs use the GNU GPL to guarantee every user the freedom to run, study, adapt, improve, and redistribute the program," said Richard Stallman, founder and president of the FSF. Version 3 of the GNU GPL strengthens this guarantee, by ensuring that users can modify the free software on their personal and household devices, and granting patent licenses to every user. It also extends compatibility with other free software licenses and increases international uniformity. Jeremy Allison, speaking on behalf of the Samba team, states that they see the new license as "a great improvement on the older GPL," and that it is "a necessary update to deal with the new threats to free software that have emerged since version 2 of the GPL." The warm embrace of much of the community should come as no surprise, for the license is the final result of an unprecedented drafting process that has seen four published drafts in eighteen months. These were the basis for a discussion that included thousands of comments from the public. This feedback, along with input from committees representing the public and private sectors, and legal advice from the Software Freedom Law Center, was used in writing the text of GPL version 3. "By hearing from so many different groups in a public drafting process, we have been able to write a license that successfully addresses a broad spectrum of concerns. But even more importantly, these different groups have had an opportunity to find common ground on important issues facing the free software community today, such as patents, tivoization, and Treacherous Computing," said the Foundation's executive director, Peter Brown. Tivoization and Treacherous (aka, "Trusted") Computing are schemes to prevent users from utilizing modified or alternate software. The former simply blocks modified software from running; the latter enables web sites to refuse to talk to modified software. Both are typically used to impose malicious features such as Digital Restrictions Management (DRM). GPL version 3 does not restrict the features of a program; in particular, it does not prohibit DRM. However, it prohibits the use of tivoization and Treacherous Computing to stop users from changing the software. Thus, they are free to remove whatever features they may dislike. Karl Berry, long-time GNU developer and Texinfo maintainer, believes that "the GPL is the fundamental license that ties the free software community together, and version 3 does an excellent job of updating the license to the present-day computing reality." Elated by the new patent clause, he bemoans software patents as "a scourge on our cooperative efforts." Over fifteen GNU programs will be released under the new license today, and the entire GNU Project will follow suit in the coming months. The FSF will also encourage adoption of the license through education and outreach programs. "A lot of time and effort went into this license. Now free programs must adopt it so as to offer their users its stronger protection for their freedom," Stallman said. The final license is published at http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html. About the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) The GNU GPL is the most widely used free software license worldwide: almost three quarters of all free software packages are distributed under this license. It is not, however, the only free software license. Richard Stallman wrote the version 1 and 2 of the GNU GPL with legal advice from Perkins, Smith & Cohen. Version 1 was released in 1989, and version 2 in 1991. Since 1991, free software use has increased tremendously, and computing practices have changed, introducing new opportunities and new threats. In 2005, Stallman began revising the GPL for version 3. In January 2006, the FSF began a systematic process of public review and feedback, with legal advice and organizational support from the Software Freedom Law Center. About the GNU Operating System and Linux Richard Stallman announced in September 1983 the plan to develop a free software Unix-like operating system called GNU. GNU is the only operating system developed specifically for the sake of users' freedom. See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html. In 1992, the essential components of GNU were complete, except for one, the kernel. When in 1992 the kernel Linux was re-released under the GNU GPL, making it free software, the combination of GNU and Linux formed a complete free operating system, which made it possible for the first time to run a PC without non-free software. This combination is the GNU/Linux system. For more explanation, see http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html. The GNU components in the GNU system will be released under GPL version 3, once it is finalized. The licensing of Linux will be decided by the developers of Linux. If they decide to stay with GPL version 2, then the GNU/Linux system will contain GNU packages using GNU GPL version 3, alongside Linux under GNU GPL version 2. Many other packages with various licenses make up the full GNU/Linux system. About Free Software and Open Source The free software movement's goal is freedom for computer users. Some, especially corporations, advocate a different viewpoint, known as "open source," which cites only practical goals such as making software powerful and reliable, focuses on development models, and avoids discussion of ethics and freedom. These two viewpoints are different at the deepest level. For more explanation, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html The GNU GPL is used by developers with various views, but it was written to serve the ethical goals of the free software movement. Says Stallman, "The GNU GPL makes sense in terms of its purpose: freedom and social solidarity. Trying to understand it in terms of the goals and values of open source is like trying understand a CD drive's retractable drawer as a cupholder. You can use it for that, but that is not what it was designed for." About The Free Software Foundation The Free Software Foundation, founded in 1985, is dedicated to promoting computer users' right to use, study, copy, modify, and redistribute computer programs. The FSF promotes the development and use of free (as in freedom) software -- particularly the GNU operating system and its GNU/Linux variants -- and free documentation for free software. The FSF also helps to spread awareness of the ethical and political issues of freedom in the use of software. Its web site, located at www.fsf.org, is an important source of information about GNU/Linux. Donations to support the FSF's work can be made at http://donate.fsf.org. Its headquarters are in Boston, MA, USA. Media contacts: Brett Smith Licensing Compliance Engineer Free Software Foundation 617-542-5942x18 brett(a)fsf.org John Sullivan Campaigns Manager Free Software Foundation 617-542-5942×23 johns(a)fsf.org Joshua Gay Campaigns Manager Free Software Foundation 617-542-5942×19 jgay(a)fsf.org ### _______________________________________________ Info-gplv3 mailing list Info-gplv3(a)gplv3.fsf.org http://gplv3.fsf.org

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[Article]: Your Freedom needs Free/Libre Software - RMS
by Roshan 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

All, Following is an article on Freedom and Free/Libre Software. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=43&ItemID=13157 -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of Arts, Science and Commerce - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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[ANN] Four day course on Scientific Computing with Python
by Prabhu Ramachandran 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

Hello, [Sorry about the cross-posting!] This is to announce a 4 day short term course at IIT Bombay on "Scientific computing with Python". The course will be held between 16th-19th July, 2007 at IITB. Complete details on the course, registration and other details are available at: http://ekalavya.it.iitb.ac.in/python_course.do About the course ---------------- Python is a remarkable, modern, free, easy to learn, high-level and powerful programming language that is well suited for scientific computing. This 4-day course aims to give an overview of the various free tools that are in use and under development today that enable a scientist to build sophisticated science/engineering applications with Python. Course Content -------------- The course will first provide a rapid introduction to the Python programming language (ideally participants should be familiar with the language before the workshop begins) and the standard library. The following topics will then be covered: # Efficient array processing in Python using NumPy. # Interactive 2D plotting using matplotlib. # SciPy for general purpose numerical algorithms. # Interfacing Python with FORTRAN, C and C++ using f2py and SWIG. # The notion of MVC design and the use of Traits/TraitsUI to easily create sophisticated graphical user interfaces. # Adding 2D plots to applications using the Chaco toolkit. # An overview of the Visualization Toolkit library and the TVTK package for 3D visualizations from Python. # Extensible plugin-based application frameworks using Envisage. # Scientific data visualization using MayaVi2. # Building a sample application using the above tools. Schedule -------- Dates: 16th to 19th July, 2007. Venue: IIT Bombay, Mumbai. Who Should Attend ----------------- Practicing scientists/engineers who have a passion for writing great software and computer scientists/engineers who build scientific applications. Faculty ------- * Eric Jones -- President and CTO of Enthought Inc., Austin, TX. * Prabhu Ramachandran -- Department of Aerospace Engineering, IITB. Please forward this announcement to anyone who might be interested. Thanks! Regards, -- Prabhu Ramachandran http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/~prabhu

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OO Tutorials, Extns
by Mani A 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

A collection of 11 tutorials on oo-2.0 at http://k12edcom.org/?q=node/24 Extending oo is easier than it used to be. "Extend OpenOffice.org By Dmitri Popov It's easier than you might think to create your own OpenOffice.org extensions. If you have a nifty macro or a nice Writer template you want to share with other OpenOffice.org users, publishing them on the Web along with detailed installation instructions is probably not the best way to go. Fortunately, OpenOffice.org supports extensions-small installable packages that provide added functionality. You easily can turn your templates, autotext entries, gallery art and macros into extensions that can be installed with a couple of clicks. Better yet, OpenOffice.org's extensions have an easy-to-understand and well-defined architecture, and you can start building your own extensions in no time........(see http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9412)" Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc

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GNU pages in Tamil
by ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ் 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

Hi, Glad to share that, two of the GNU Webpage is now available in Tamil. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.ta.html http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.ta.html Regards, Sri Ramadoss M. -- அன்புடன், ஆமாச்சு. http://amachu.net வாழிய செந்தமிழ்! வாழ்கநற் றமிழர்! வாழிய பாரத மணித்திரு நாடு!

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Fwd: [Asiasource2-participants] Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard (sign the petition)
by Sayamindu Dasgupta 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Farzaneh Sarafraz <farzaane(a)gmail.com> Date: Jun 25, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Asiasource2-participants] Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard (sign the petition) To: David Tremblay <david(a)lerap.org> Cc: Asia Source 2 <asiasource2-participants(a)iosn.net> I think anybody who has contacts in their local standardization organization should do something. We have started negotiating about it, and I am aware of people (specially OO.o people) doing it in their countries. On 6/25/07, David Tremblay <david(a)lerap.org> wrote: > Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard > * There is already a standard ISO26300 named Open Document Format > (ODF): a dual standard adds costs, uncertainty and confusion to > industry, government and citizens; > * There is no provable implementation of the OOXML specification: > Microsoft Office 2007 produces a special version of OOXML, not a > file format which complies with the OOXML specification; > * There is missing information from the specification document, > for example how to do a autoSpaceLikeWord95 or > useWord97LineBreakRules; > * More than 10% of the examples mentioned in the proposed standard > do not validate as XML; > * There is no guarantee that anybody can write a software that > fully or partially implements the OOXML specification without > being liable to patent damages or patent license fees by > Microsoft; > * This standard proposal conflicts with other ISO standards, such > as ISO 8601 (Representation of dates and times), ISO 639 (Codes > for the Representation of Names and Languages) or ISO/IEC > 10118-3 (cryptographic hash); > * There is a bug in the spreadsheet file format which forbids to > enter any date before the year 1900: such bugs affects the OOXML > specification as well as software versions such as Microsoft > Excel 2000, XP, 2003 or 2007. > * This standard proposal has not been created by bringing together > the experience and expertise of all interested parties (such as > the producers, sellers, buyers, users and regulators), but by > Microsoft alone. > > Add your name to the http://www.noooxml.org/petition/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Asiasource2-participants mailing list > Asiasource2-participants(a)iosn.net > http://lists.iosn.net/mailman/listinfo/asiasource2-participants > _______________________________________________ Asiasource2-participants mailing list Asiasource2-participants(a)iosn.net http://lists.iosn.net/mailman/listinfo/asiasource2-participants -- -- Sayamindu Dasgupta [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings]

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The Perfect Replacement For MP3 (Stanley Thomas' blog)
by Frederick Noronha [फर ॆडरीक नोर ोनया] 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

http://perfector.wordpress.com/ The Perfect Replacement For MP3 Feedback, bouquets, brickbats to: stanleythomas1(a)gmail.com Digital music is probably the only kind of music everybody is listening to these days. The reason being that its smaller in size and thus makes it easy to share and store. Imagine downloading a 4 minute track thats approximately 40 Mb in size in a place where access to the internet is terrible and costs a bomb (thats usually the case in most places in the world). Thankfully, compression algorithms exists that can compress the same audio track to one-tenth its size, thus we do not have to imagine the above. Few weeks back I downloaded 2 albums, "My Dying Bride - A Line Of Deathless Kings" and "Slayer - Christ Illusion". The Slayer album was ripped at a very low bitrate and was not sounding too good. The album contained 14 tracks and obviously it was ripped at a lower bitrate to reduce its size. Many thanks to all the people who shared the album with me, but it was just not to my liking. There was no quality and I was furious because it took me a long time to download the album as not many people were sharing it. Boy, what a waste of time and a killer of expectation. Well thats what made me write this. Mp3 is an audio compression format that has taken the world by a storm. Mp3 is almost a synonym for music nowadays as Google is for search. Now, here comes the problem.. MP3 was good at one point in time, but not anymore. What's better? OGG VORBIS. AAC, Lame, MP3Pro neither of 'em match up to Ogg Vorbis' standards. Don't take my word for it, you can do simple tests to prove it. Take your favorite audio cd, select a track that you have heard a million times and don't mind listening to a hundred more and rip it to ogg vorbis as well as to mp3. Compare the mp3 and the ogg file to the track on the cd by listening, well now you know what I'm talking about. The ogg file is a much faithful reproduction of the cd than the mp3. An ogg file of 80kbps (bitrate) is equivalent to an mp3 encoded at 128kbps. Hey, there is still one more issue called "size". Ofcourse here again the ogg file beats the mp3 hollow. For the same size one can achieve a higher bitrate with ogg vorbis than with mp3. The best part ogg vorbis by default encodes in variable bitrate (which deliveres better quality than constant bitrate). Isn't this a great piece of information for any music lover? There are a more advantages in using ogg. Ogg is patent-free. Ok, we are just not bothered about patents here in India, but in this case we have to be because a lot of music that we listen to everyday is coming from outside India. Musicians who sell their songs in mp3 have to pay royalties. They could just save a bit more of cash by selling all over the world their songs in ogg vorbis. Not just does it benefit them but it also benefits listeners and fans. But do you think that they are seriously bothered? Music is become a business rather than an art form. Nobody cares about the quality of music their fans are listening to as long as they are minting big bucks and are being voted for the Grammy's. Portable players like ipod's also have to pay royalties but still are unwilling to support patent-free formats like ogg. Why? Because they too are doing well in selling their products. Neither the musician nor the manufacturers of players are bothered about the listener. As a guy on one of the mailing lists puts it "if only all the music in china was ripped into ogg vorbis", surely then a lot of players would be supporting it. There are a few portable players available that support ogg vorbis. Many of the game developers are using ogg vorbis and are very happy with the quality of sound and even happier because they are getting away without paying licenses. e.g. Doom 3. Ogg is only the container just like avi. It can contain several data streams at once, like video and the corresponding audio. Vorbis is the name of an open source audio compression format. There exists Theora for video compression and Speex for speech. I haven't really tried these though. If you notice I haven't mentioned anything about Windows Media Audio (wma) and Real Audio (ra), thats because I find these to be very cheap proprietary formats. I would never recommend these to any music lover. The best part about using ogg is that its open source. A lot of intense development will continue to take place to ensure that ogg vorbis remains the best. Its going to be literally impossible for any other proprietary format to beat ogg in the future. Almost all linux distributions play ogg out of the box. Things are looking bright for ogg, especially with all the Dell machines being sold with Ubuntu, we can expect a lot of vorbis encoded music from the US. Happy listening! June 25th, 2007 Categories: General . Author: stan . Comments: No Comments -- FN: Frederick Noronha Phone 0091-832-2409490 http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts

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Patent Wars And The Indian Scenario
by Vikram Vincent 25 Jun '07

25 Jun '07

Hello, An insightful analysis into the Patent regime and the role played by the Free and Open Source(FOSS) community in leading th battle against it. http://www.delhiscienceforum.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=… Prabir Purkayastha is an engineer and a science activist in the power, telecom and software sectors. He is one of the founding members of Delhi Science Forum and its Secretary. -- Regards Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://groups.google.com/group/bangalore_alive/ http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Campaign_to_promote_free_software_in_karnataka

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Poll on KDE
by Mani A 24 Jun '07

24 Jun '07

Every other Linux distribution modifies desktops according to some usability heuristics. This poll about how users see the end result. The poll is at http://www.ilug-cal.info/index.php Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc

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[x-posted] 'Moonlight' sannata waltzes with GnuLinux
by Linux Lingam 24 Jun '07

24 Jun '07

dear all, this is rather impressive! 'moonlight' is a drop-in replacement for silverlight, and runs on linux. http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight "Mono is the GPL'd EMCA implementation of the .NET Framework for Linux. Moonlight is the new Silverlight-compatible runtime for the *nix world." a blog here mentions the plight of mono's developers. http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/mono-doesnt-get-enough-credit/ what's missing, the sounds of applause, appreciation, support, and encouragement for moonlight. hence 'sannata' a hindi word that means 'soundless' or 'silence'. :-) niyam

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Will The Real Open Source CRM Please Stand Up?
by Praveen A 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

"Open Source has grown up. Now it is time for us to stand up. I believe that when we do, the vendors who ignore our norms will suddenly recognize that they really do need to make a choice: to label their software correctly and honestly, or to license it with an OSI-approved license that matches their open source label. And when they choose the latter, I'll give them a shout out, as history shows. Please join me, stand up, and make your voice heard--enough is enough." by Michael Tiemann, President, Open Source Initiative Read the complete blog post http://opensource.org/node/163 Also on digg http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Open_Source_Initiative_Finds_Its_Backbone Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Simplified Grub
by Mani A 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Rescue tasks with Grub can be a bit hard at times. The Super Grub Disk project has been doing well. http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/ Recommended for faster rescue operations. .. (especially if you have to deal with unknown operating systems like M$-Windows and MS-DOG on systems with the latest Linux systems) Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc

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[Fwd: [Fsf Programmers] hi]
by Nagarjuna G. 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Since FSF-Programmers is not widely read, I am posting this here. If any of you want to help laxmipathi, please contact off line. Nagarjuna

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Ubuntu, Red Hat reject Microsoft patent deal
by Sreejith 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Hi all, Red Hat, the largest Linux vendor, and Ubuntu-maker Canonical have both rejected calls from Microsoft to forge a deal similar to the one the Redmond giant signed with Linux distributors Novel, Xandros, and Linspire. read more.. http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Ubuntu-Red-Hat-reject-Microsoft-p… Regards, Sreejith --

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Fwd: [Glug-nith-discuss] linuX-gamers LiveDVD
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

>From the GLUG-NITH mailing list. Cheers, Debarshi ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Arjun Shankar <arjunsha(a)gmail.com> Date: 19-Jun-2007 10:41 Subject: [Glug-nith-discuss] linuX-gamers LiveDVD To: "Principal discussion list of GLUG-NITH." <glug-nith-discuss(a)nongnu.org> linuX-gamers is in the process of coming out with a LiveDVD with games which run natively on GNU/Linux machines. The distribution is based on ArchLinux, and aims to run on _any_ x86 machine with a 3D accelerator and 512 Megs of RAM. Details? : http://live.linux-gamers.net/ Arjun -- GPG Key ID: 30115100 Keyserver : subkeys.pgp.net _______________________________________________ Glug-nith-discuss mailing list Glug-nith-discuss(a)nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/glug-nith-discuss -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Friends
by Pradeep (Secretary To MD) 17 Jun '07

17 Jun '07

Hi, My name is Pradeep. I am 37 years old. If any lonely female is interested for friendship and some fun in New Delhi, please do mail back (pradeep(a)winteksa.com). Regards, Pradeep

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Fwd: participate in DebConf7 from abroad
by Vikram Vincent 16 Jun '07

16 Jun '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Holger Levsen <holger(a)layer-acht.org> Date: 16-Jun-2007 22:24 Subject: participate in DebConf7 from abroad To: debian-devel-announce(a)lists.debian.org Hi, as many of you are aware, today is DebianDay, the preceeding event to DebConf7, taking place from June 17 to 23 in Edinburgh in Scotland. Even if you could not make it to be here in person, you can participate in DebConf7 by pointing your user agents to: DebConf(7), general information http://www.debconf.org http://debconf7.debconf.org Schedules https://penta.debconf.org/~joerg/ Live streams http://streams.video.debconf.org:8000/ IRC.debian.org #debconf, #debconf-uppertalks, #debconf-lowertalks, #debconf-lowerbofs and #debconf-upperbofs Video archive - the videos will become available in the night (british summer time) after the day the event took place: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2007/debconf7/ Have fun and free the software :-) regards, Holger -- Regards Vikram Vincent +919448810822 http://groups.google.com/group/bangalore_alive/ http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Campaign_to_promote_free_software_in_karnataka

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Fwd : AMD stuff
by Mani A 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Yes they really need to review their Linux strategy. M$ is also going to stop selling the windows OS and move over to Linspire (the closed source version). Hopefully AMD will open source everything. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dotan Cohen <dotancohen(a)gmail.com> Date: Jun 15, 2007 4:09 AM Subject: [users] AMD deciding _now_ what to do about Linux To: I wrote to AMD regarding the state of ATI Linux drivers and the company's view of the Linux community. This is the response I got: "Thanks - could you contact us again in July? We're reviewing our Linux strategy right now, so anything I tell you know could be out of date in weeks." You can read the whole message here: http://dotancohen.com/eng/linux_compatibility.php Feel free to Digg or /. it. Friends, NOW is the time to contact AMD and to let them know that we need their support. Please, write to them, call them, now is the time. Even for those who don't use AMD products, the precedent set here will most certainly echo throughout the hardware world. Take the 5 minutes and convince AMD that the Linux community cannot be ignored. Note: I have posted this letter to several mailing lists. Those who know me from those lists will know that I don't, as a rule, crosspost. However, I felt this to be important enough to cross the line and crosspost to the lists I felt would be interested. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc

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Stanley Thomas' blog: GNU/Linux Performance Tweaks
by Frederick Noronha [फ्र ेडरिक नोरो न्या] 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

http://perfector.wordpress.com/ Linux Performance Tweaks Not too long ago my boss and myself came up with a wise idea to make a list of all the linux tweaks usually done to improve the performance of a linux system. The idea has been taken to a higher level and each and every silly possible change that could improve the performance of the system has been added. Of course the actual list would be never ending, but these are a few that I could think of. Do mail me if you think of more that can be added. The first thing to look at a brand new machine is its BIOS. There is a lot of junk in there that you may never require. For example, if the machine is going to be used as a file server the on-board sound card is never going to be used, or if the machine is never to be connected to a lan why leave the on-board lan card enabled. If the system is going to be run in text mode only the shared graphics memory required should not be more than 2MB. All these changes should be done according to requirement. During installation do try your best to avoid software raid and lvm unless absolutely required. These are two lovely features but both of 'em degrade performance considerably. The next most important thing is to use a kernel that's suitable to your processor architecture. For example, if you have a 686 processor use a i686 kernel, if you have a 586 processor use a i586 kernel and if you have multiple processors/cores use the smp kernel. These are the 3 most common kernels provided with any modern distribution. Most of us know that ext2/ext3 is the filesystem that has to be used during installation. No doubt that the ext2/ext3 file system is very reliable but if you are seriously looking forward towards a faster and much more responsive system ext2/ext3 is a bad option. Xfs is by far the fastest filesystem, and if you are dealing with many small files reiserfs is the best. If you have a directory with many different types of files, try to break it up. it definitely will improve performance. Oh, and do use a lighter file manager. Something like Thunar is great. The next thing of course is to disable the services you never use frequently. Services like 'timidity' and 'apache' may very rarely be used by you. Well you can always start them when required. Running services when not required is such a waste of resources. Imagine running a service such as 'postgresql' when all that you are doing with you system is browsing the Internet. 'Prelink" drastically speeds up application start-up times. There are a lot of benchmarks done with and without prelink just to prove its superiority. In most modern distributions prelink is very stable and reliable. Avoid using stuff like Kat, Beagle, Evolution etc. etc. At times these apps make the system so unusable. There are much more lighter apps to get your work done. Take for instance, to do a quick word processing job why use 'OpenOffice Writer' when Abiword (which is much more lighter) can do the job just fine. Use a light window manager. My best suggestion WindowMaker. Fluxbox also does a fine job. Well it will take you some time to get used to it. Hey but life is all about changes. I mean, when i started using computers i never knew what linux was. You just adapt to whatever suits you. Well, i know that the above suggestion is not a easy one, but if you are using something like Gnome or KDE avoid using many taskbar applets. Those are real resource hungry. Also wallpapers, icons and files/folders on the desktop consume resources. In linux you have a central storage for each user, so use it for all your files. It keeps your system a lot cleaner, your desktop clear, and you can keep things more organized (atleast i can). My greatest suggestion in this entire article would be to stay abreast with the latest distro. The only way to achieve this is to have a separate /home partition. So the next time you install a new distro, do not format your /home partition but only all the others for the installer to install the required packages and their related files. Packages change over time, Xorg is better than Xfree, Alsa is better than Oss, Udev is better than devfs. Most of all the kernel undergoes major changes, many of which are performance related. Most of the latest distros have packages that are compiled using GCC 3.4 and upwards. GCC 3.4 compiles programs so they run at least 7% faster. Do you really want to miss out on such good performance gains? For ext3 filesystems "noatime" and "data=writeback" are good options to have in the '/etc/fstab' file. /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid,nouser,data=writeback 0 1 And for reiserfs add the option "notail" but remove "data=writeback" /dev/hda7 /boot reiserfs noauto,noatime,notail Six text-mode virtual consoles are absolutely unwanted for a user like me, and considering that each of these virtual consoles consume memory turns me off. Comment out the lines for the unwanted virtual consoles in '/etc/inittab' and issue the command "init q" as root to make changes done without rebooting. In most of the modern machines with 512MB and more ram a lot of swapping is not required. The more the swapping done when there is enough ram to do the job is a waste of performance. The default value is vm.swappiness=60. To change it issue "echo 'vm.swappiness=<value>' >> /etc/sysctl.conf" as root. Then issue #swapoff -a and #swapon -a. Generally a value from 20-30 is great for most modern machines. Find the right value that suits your needs. The swap partition has to be created roughly in the middle of the harddisk for it to be easily accessed. Since the swap partition is accessed in very short bursts occasionally its the best option. Yeah, this is not one of those easily experimentable suggestions. Coming to the harddisk.. Oh no, this is my most hated piece of hardware in a computer. It has moving parts, its unreliable and its a pain to maintain. Sometimes i wish i had an external usb hub with max capacity thumb drives built into it to use as a storage medium. I guess it would be enough for my day to day work. I dont know if it would be faster than a 10000 rpm hdd, but im sure its much more reliable because it can withstand more shocks, it does not heat up as much and it has no moving parts. To increase hdd performance there's nothing better than 'hdparm'. It tests speeds of the drive and give you a quite a bit of control over the hdd's parameters. With 'hdparm' you can set the readahead, configure power management, enable/disable dma, display drive geometry, speed up/down the head movement, set spindown time and a whole lot of other neat stuff. Once you have got all options to your liking, add it to the end of '/etc/rc.sysinit' so that it gets executed towards the end of the system's booting process. For example a line like this could be added: hdparm -a1024 -c3 -d1 -m16 /dev/hda Like i said earlier there are a lot of ways to improve the system's performance. These are only a few i can think of. Try out 'powertweak' its good. Readahead, preload, upstart, teardown are good for boot-up, shutdown, and faster application loading times. Do not forget to inform me of something that i could add to this list. June 15th, 2007 Categories: Linux = Desktop . Author: stan . Comments: No Comments -- FN: Frederick Noronha Phone 0091-832-2409490 http://wikiwikiweb.de/MyContacts

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Need help in Thrissur
by Krishna Pagadala 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

Hi All, I need help in Ollur in Thrissur district of Kerala. There is an NGO that wants to convert to OpenOffice and other free software in a windows environment. Can somebody help? Regards Krishna ===================================== Misinterpreting Copyright by Richard Stallman http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/misinterpreting-copyright.html "Die Gedanken Sind Frei": Free Software and the Struggle for Free Thought by Eben Moglen http://emoglen.law.columbia.edu/publications/berlin-keynote.html . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

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Re: Need help in Thrissur
by Krishna Pagadala 14 Jun '07

14 Jun '07

> Did you mean that you want to use free software > tools in windows, or replace windows with > GNU/Linux also? While I would love the full replacement. Given the circumstances I dont think it is an option. I am asking for free software running in Windows. Regards, Krishna --- Krishna Pagadala <krishnaact(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi All, > I need help in Ollur in Thrissur district of > Kerala. > There is an NGO that wants to convert to OpenOffice > and other free software in a windows environment. > Can somebody help? > > Regards > Krishna > ===================================== Misinterpreting Copyright by Richard Stallman http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/misinterpreting-copyright.html "Die Gedanken Sind Frei": Free Software and the Struggle for Free Thought by Eben Moglen http://emoglen.law.columbia.edu/publications/berlin-keynote.html . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222

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Audio recording of Eben's first talk "Freeing the mind: Free Software and the end of proprietary culture"
by Praveen A 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Hi, The audio recording of Eben's session on Sunday is available from http://deeproot.in/~kamathln/eben/freeingthemind/ Thanks to Sujith and Laxminarayan for the recording. Cheers Praveen PS: Anyone interested to help out with a transcript please contact me offline Other links (photos and videos) will be posted at http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Eben_Moglen_in_Bangalore once it is available -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Re: [ilugd] eben moglen on tv + webcasting
by Linux Lingam 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

On 6/12/07, Dave Crossland <dave(a)lab6.com> wrote: > On 12/06/07, Sandip Bhattacharya <sandip(a)lug-delhi.org> wrote: > > > > But I would like to ask if broadcasts made by a public broadcaster can be shared > > for non-commercial public sharing. ah there's an interesting twist to this debate. suppose as an end-user publishes a video from a commercial tv broadcaster on say, youtube, for explicitly non-commercial end-use, and to share with others. this is quite similar to the 'fair use' terms often sited by wikipedia. the twist: youtube makes money from google ads and other means. so there is commercialization and monetizing happening. i have no clue how this is legally evaluated, but youtube tends to attract legal eyes rather frequently. i don't know about you, but i quite enjoy internet radio, using amarok. over 4,000 channels to choose from, in every genre...! i get 24x7 of ad-free radio, at near CD quality, from artists & groups, or even from genres not even broadcast in india. alas! a recent ruling says that web-casting music like this would attract broadcasting license to be paid by the net radio stations. suddenly internet radio is no longer free-of-cost to end-users and several stations may have to shut down.... fair is foul... hover through the air... :-) niyam

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Re: [ilugd] eben moglen on tv
by Sandip Bhattacharya 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Karanbir Singh wrote: > Linux Lingam wrote: >> dear all, >> >> eben moglen's talk on saturday was moderated by paranjoy guha thakurtha. >> after the talk he mentioned to me that within one hour he was >> interviewing eben for a tv report. here are the details: >> >> 17 june 2007, 6pm, on loksabha tv >> >> yup, that's a bit of an obscure tv channel. >> so anyone here got a tv tuner card or something so perhaps you could >> post a digitized version on youtube for the world-at-large? > > irony at its best.... pre-requests for breaking the law, for Eben's content! True. But I would like to ask if broadcasts made by a public broadcaster can be shared for non-commercial public sharing. How is it done the world over? - Sandip

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Re: [കേ.ശാ.സാ.പ] Red Hat signs MoU with Kerala govt
by sujith h 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

On 6/6/07, Santhosh Thottingal <santhosh00(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > The following article was posting at this link > http://www.ciol.com/content/search/showarticle1.asp?artid=98103 > > Red Hat signs MoU with Kerala govt > Red Hat to support Kerala's deployment of open source software Whats wrong with Debian??? What about the IT@School project which is worlds largest debian installation project!!! NEW DELHI, INDIA: Red Hat has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) > with the government of Kerala to support the state's deployment of open > source software for the benefit of e-governance and e-literacy efforts. Lots of people are working for Swathanthra Malayalam Computing in order to help people to use Malayalam in their computers which has Debian!!! We conduct meetings regularly to update the status of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing (SMC)project. As per the MoU, Red Hat will work with the Kerala government to conduct > capacity-building programs around open source software. > > Red Hat will train the technical staff of various government organizations > on open source applications. Red Hat will also train school teachers in > Kerala on Linux desktop skills under a "Train-the-Trainer" program. Lots of teachers are trained to use Debian. Now why this change??? The Kerala Government's IT Policy draft has identified Free and Open Source > Software (FOSS) as a major strategic component in its efforts to build an > inclusive information society. > > "Kerala has always been a leader in literacy and now we want to make > Kerala a leader in e-literacy," said V. S. Achutanandan, chief minister of > Kerala. > > "We believe that Free and Open Source Software is an essential component > in our drive to democratize information technology and bring its benefits to > all sections of society. We are pleased to partner with Red Hat, an open > source leader, in bringing e-literacy and e-governance to the people of > Kerala." > > "The Kerala Government has taken a very progressive step in choosing open > source software. The freedom, flexibility and cost-effectiveness of open > source helps governments maximize their IT budgets," said Nandkumar Pradhan, > president and managing director, Red Hat India. Is there any advantage for a community project over a social contract??? Red Hat and the Kerala government will also work together to promote Kerala > as a global destination for developing open source software. > > This is really a shocking news!!! -- സുജിത് ഹരിദാസന് Bangalore http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Movie
by Mani A 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

On the question of integrating Linux and FOSS into the general culture of the masses, maybe we can consider helping the film industry. Now if we are concerned about the size of impact, then we can consider developing the stories at least for the commercial kind of Indian Cinema. .. though the more meaningful version can also be done. There are various ways of writing movie stories. Optimal ones are those that are inductive enough to be seen as specifications of the final product. One way of writing it is by successive refinement of a certain minimal version. Well, what am I suggesting ? Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc

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eben moglen on tv
by Linux Lingam 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

dear all, eben moglen's talk on saturday was moderated by paranjoy guha thakurtha. after the talk he mentioned to me that within one hour he was interviewing eben for a tv report. here are the details: 17 june 2007, 6pm, on loksabha tv yup, that's a bit of an obscure tv channel. so anyone here got a tv tuner card or something so perhaps you could post a digitized version on youtube for the world-at-large? :-) niyam bhushan

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(no subject)
by Mishi Choudhary 10 Jun '07

10 Jun '07

Eben Moglen, Professor of Law in Columbia Law School and Founding Director, Software Freedom Law Center is in india foe two weeks starting from 02-06-2007- 15-06-2007 to meet policy makers, Software professionals and all others who are interested/ associated with FOSS. His Schedule is as follows 03-06-2007 A talk at St Joseph's college, bangalore- Software Patents 06-06-2007 A discussion and talk in Trivandrum- Free Software: The Death oF proprietary Culture 09-06-2007 He will be speaking on Software Patents at the IIC Annexe Conference Room 3, New Delhi on 9th June 2007 at 10:30 am. Eben was recently chosen as one of the 100 most influential personalities in the world by eWeek magazine. Eben's talk is organised by the Delhi Science Forum, Software Freedom Law Center, India, Free Software Foundation India, Sarai (CSDS), Indian Linux Users Group, Delhi, and others. 11-06-2007 Eben will be addressing the legal fraternity at the High court of Andhra Pradesh at Hyderabad 12-06-2007 A talk At NALSAR These meetings/Talks are open to all so feel free to forward this invite to yourfriends who may be interested in this subject. More info about Eben is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Moglen Warm Regards Mishi Choudhary

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The last GPL?
by Ramanraj K 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

The last call draft of the GPLv3 is at: http://gplv3.fsf.org/gpl-draft-2007-05-31.html It is fairly easy for most licensees to comply with the terms and conditions in the General Public License, Version 2.0, whether they are users, developers or distributors. The few GPL violations I have heard of generally relate to the copyleft clause where the violators most probably fully deserved to be prosecuted as they failed to make their modifications public. On the contrary, the scary thing about the proposed GPL is that users, developers or distributors could be hauled up for not so obvious trademark violations. Trademarks are just proprietary shit - you would not want to touch them. Free software has nothing much to do with trademarks, warranties, income tax, sales tax/vat, central excise, and a lot of other things, which may be attracted in various jurisdictions under various circumstances, but do not concern us at all. Free software packages need and could use only non-proprietary generic names for identification, and inviting people to use trademarks for identifying the package itself is needles and only promotes the proprietary culture. Worse, it could easily be used to defeat copyleft freedom. Clause 7 makes room for clauses, which could be used to force you to use or not use alleged trademarks, and police modifications. The clause has the potential to cause distension in the free software community and the greatest danger is that it would make the GPL irrelevant in the free software community. TRIPs was negotiated in 1994, much after GPLv2 was published in 1991. After TRIPs, computer programs may be protected only as literary works, and misapplication of patent law to computer programs deserves to be challenged if any of the signatories to TRIPs continue its practice. It is mostly the proprietary software companies that support the illegal practice of "software patents", and any clause in the GPL now, as though "Software Patents" are legitimate, would only operate as estoppel against authors who wish to question the practice in the US, discouraging the use of the GPL. "Software patents" are an illegitimate practice and clauses based on such a practice could only be seen as opposed to public policy. Today, free software is moving from strength to strength, but the question would be if the GPL can continue to hold its influence in the free software community. Ramanraj K

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Re: Transcript of Eben Moglen Speech on 3rd June
by Praveen A 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

Hi Viswanath, Thanks for the transcript. It is added to http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Freeing_the_Mind:_Free_Software_and_the_end_o… Cheers Praveen 2007/6/7, Viswanath Durbha <viswanath.durbha(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > I've learnt from > http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Eben_Moglen_in_Bangalore that > help is needed in transcribing Eben Moglen's speech on 3rd June in Bangalore > on the topic " Freeing the Mind: Free Software and the end of proprietary > culture". > > I've finished writing a transcript of the same. Please find it attached. > Hope you can find it accurate enough to post it to the website. > > The audio quality of the speex file is not very good towards the end of the > speech. So there may be some words that might not be entirely accurate. But > I took care that the message in the speech is not altered. Please note that > the Q&A session is not transcribed. > > Thanks and Regards, > Viswanath > > -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Free Software Daily
by Praveen A 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

FSDaily is a news hub entirely dedicated to free and open source software, where users can vote stories up and down http://www.fsdaily.com/ -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Fwd: [smc-discuss] Re: [Debian-in-workers] Red Hat signs MoU with Kerala govt
by Praveen A 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind(a)gmail.com> Date: २००७ जून ८ १२:२७ Subject: [smc-discuss] Re: [Debian-in-workers] Red Hat signs MoU with Kerala govt To: debian-in-workers(a)lists.alioth.debian.org, smc-discuss(a)googlegroups.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This mail seems that you are more focused on claims to kep ur ego than the facts . I dont want to continue this non productive discussion based on your articulated views with a lot of misconceptions. It only serves your ego. I dont want to spam Others in this list. This will be my last to this Thread in this list Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > Anivar Aravind said on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 12:27:46AM +0530,: > > > > Apart from Arun's ``I say so'', what are these statistics based on? > > > > http://www.hindu.com/2006/05/08/stories/2006050811430400.htm > > I am very much afraid that this article, or Biju Prabhakar's views do > not reflect the ground realities. Still u your rabbit has 3 hones. "Ground realities" are related to the ground. not your mind. > (That article coincides with the day my kid was born, so I believe I > missed it). > > The next question is probably off topic for this list and thread - the > URL says that the FSF India created the CD for IT@SCHOOL project; but > my understanding is that space-kerala.org is doing it. Which is true? That is the Problem with Your understanding It is well Written every CD's of IT@school & On Readme Files. If you ever seen a CD you can understand that And I already posted the following URL here earlier http://www.edugrid.in/webfolder/download/schoolGnu/README.html > > BTW Did u seen > > http://support.space-kerala.org/wiki/index.php/School_GNU_Linux_FAQ > > And > > http://support.space-kerala.org/wiki/index.php/School_GNU_Linux_Tips > > Before making authoritative comments? > > Which still does not answer my question -- ``where does the government > say that it is using free software in the IT@SCHOOL project?'' Dont try to manipulate questions. This was in answer to <quote> And there is nothing - absolutely nothing -- on space-kerala.org or it@school website or KSITM (kerala state IT Mission) website to provide continued support for the kind of roll out required now. </quote> So From where your new "my question" appeared? The Lawyers are infamous for quoting outof context in courts. But In Email lists It will not work everytime > Some years back, a government agency started packaging a version of > GNU Linux for the IT@SCHOOL project. One fine morning, it was splashed > all over the Malayalam language news papers that IT@SCHOOL is going to > violating some ``intellectual property'' if it goes ahead with the > proposed CD. > > There was a big song and dance by so many so many of ``community > leaders'' about IT@SCHOOL violating the sanctity of rights. The > community, instead of helping the government agency to fix the > problems took care to give that project (and the government agency > behind it) a bad name. You still running on out of memory. It was about RedHAT based custom Distribution for Akshaya Project created by CDIT, a quasi-govt institute. Please Dont FUD > Few months later, IT@SCHOOL gave the contract to building the cd for > IT@SCHOOL to the community. FUD Happens!!! Again & Again >> This happened a few months before you became involved with Free > Software (at least, actively on the internet). You are not the person for counting my involvement in free software. You can say that it may be sometimes before we met. I am a GNU/User atleast before 2 years before that. The same with "Active in Internet" Clause too > That scenario is repeating now. Probably there is something wrong with > the MoU (I cannot identify it yet). And the community, instead of > working the persons involved, is giving the MoU a bad name. The issues here are 1. The MoU is not published so far & It is happened in a non-transparent manner. 2. If It is a decision affecting the society( specifically on IT@school case) , It must be decided with proper consultations with all civil society Stakeholders ( Teachers Orgaisations, students, & free Software community ) associated with that Project. This MoU deserves a bad name because of it is an Untransperent undemocratic decision > Probably, the community wants to retain the contracts from the > IT@SCHOOL project? FUD again!! You are trying to link up the concerns of Free software Community to Money Matters and undermining the concerns by putting the money on top of that. Which completely not relevant here. > Quite fine with me if you do not take any mone from the IT@SCHOOL > project directly. That means, on government's records, you are not > involved with the project. Therefore, the government is perfectly > justified is not consulting you before entering into the MoU. Money Decides everything in your point of view. govt is much better in this case. earlier they called up volunteers for GNU/Linux in District level . That list is available with schools itself. I pointed It above On the second issue. Consultation with all civil society stakeholders associated with any project before taking decisions must be a mandate of Free software Community. The model systems & laws are already there on non-digital world. Before planning Big Projects that affect lives & livelihood of people there must be Public hearing based on an Environment Impact Assesement. We are demanding the same in Digital Era. Just see a similar demand by Fisherfolks (I got it right now) http://www.petitiononline.com/cmz/petition.html > That is why I repeatedly say, do not work for the government free of > cost. Do any work free of cost for the government free of cost, and > you can be assured that it will go down the town/village/district > drain. The Free software adoption of IT@school was not a boon given by Government. It was a civil society campaign for Essential freedoms in Computing Led by Various Individuals & Groups (including KSTA, FSF-I etc). Who pays for the campaign? Free Software Adoption in schools helped them (at least in my village) to link it up the expertise in society in a major way. In Kerala scenario Schools & Libraries are the social space in which people meet & discuss. This helped a lot of people to adopt free software (and a lot of people bought new systems too) and a lot of youth (who came out from schools) become free software users. Free software exits in society because of its strong social linkages. That society will surely support a free software developer for developing the solution they want. I am not subscribing ur "drain" theory on market equations > > Free software is not free masala dosa. I agree. Both r different. But is not only regarding cost. One is to finish your Thirst for freedom & other is an optional and need is related to the conditions of your stomach > > This is a usual problem for people thinking in Terms of Market & > > Money than Social Means of work. We work for Free Software & > > language Computing Mainly Because of Thinking Social Benefits of > > It. The social cause is the motivating factor here. Not Money. We > > know that people will support us too if we can address the social > > needs. > > Anivar, I know that you do not care much about money. But, do not deny > that you were involved with the space-kerala.org / FSF India. When you > criticise actions by the government [apparently] in favour of Free > software, but against the existing interests which support the present > day activities of the governments, I will need to scrutinise your > claims very closely. FSF India & space-kerala are not a part of the state. Those are civil society organisations. So how it matters!!.. Self Scrutinising will be also good at this moment I feel. > If you have not been financially involved with the space-kerala.org > and / or FSF India, I apologise about the money part, else my > statements stand. I am not getting your point. I professionally Involved with FSF-I & SPACE . Apologies accepted. But dont try to put mud on Organisations & People working to promote free software in the state on behalf of your undisclosed Personal agenda's or interests. - -- Anivar Aravind moving Republic Peringavu.P.O Thrissur-18 Kerala http://anivar.movingrepublic.org/about -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGaP3bF+jWtLmEaycRAjFyAJ9viPmUQh6RyIyhAJPZ43tb0WfZ/QCfU8EH yVnMDTe6dqhJsG7YqtPMGOQ= =YmEC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് - എന്റെ കമ്പ്യൂട്ടറിന് എന്റെ ഭാഷ പിരിഞ്ഞു പോകാന്: smc-discuss-unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com സംരംഭം: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/smc -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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tools for collaboration, education
by Kussh Singh 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

http://sakaiproject.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=103&Itemi… -- www.vcn.bc.ca/citizens-handbook. available as a single zip file or use downthemall software (a firefox addon) to download all the links on any webpage.

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open courseware at MIT and other success stories
by Kussh Singh 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

I came across this interesting link http://oedb.org/library/features/how-the-open-source-movement-has-changed-e… Kussh -- www.vcn.bc.ca/citizens-handbook. available as a single zip file or use downthemall software (a firefox addon) to download all the links on any webpage.

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Luis Villa’s Blog / interesting paper on the GPL, talk at trilug
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://tieguy.org/blog/2007/06/06/interesting-paper-on-the-gpl-talk-at-tril… - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGaOJQXQZpNTcrCzMRAvZoAJ9qdSqo8NcuDoiZyNbZwluYmVLzJgCgtvGp zHfYvaXDw1CtJAUf74sr+E0= =uedJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Techworld.com - Microsoft and LG agree Linux deal
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Microsoft and LG yesterday announced a deal in which LG Electronics will license technology that Microsoft claims is included in Linux - thereby protecting LGE customers from potential intellectual property reprisals from Microsoft. http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?newsid=9068 - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGaOI7XQZpNTcrCzMRAsYSAJ46GFmNS1jil4SqgoJWcZNrsQFQiQCgx7Fu qeq0p1EzzxTmRcpoe7xzTtU= =/cVV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Why DRM won't ever work
by Praveen A 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

Another interesting article from Jeremy Allison (he had written earlier about the document lockup with MS Office 2007) " ... Sure, there's gobs and gobs of extra software in the process which is usually run at the consumer end of the deal, trying to obfuscate and hide the fact that the consumer possesses all the information needed to decrypt the file they've just been given. They have to have been given this, else they can't listen to the song or watch the movie. Claiming that this process can ever be made secure from the people you've just given all this information to is like believing you can create a secure bank vault by drawing chalk lines on the pavement, piling the money inside and asking customers to "respect these boundaries". The media industries are trying to sell what they consider to be valuable data without any means of prohibiting access to it. This is not a business model that is ever going to work." http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6189011.html?tag=nl.e550 -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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Re: [Debian-in-workers] Red Hat signs MoU with Kerala govt
by Praveen A 07 Jun '07

07 Jun '07

2007/6/7, Mahesh T. Pai <paivakil(a)gmail.com>: > I understand your feelings. I know that you have put in a log of > efforts into the IT@SCHOOL project. YOur efforts are certainly > commendable, but please, please, do not criticise the MoU without > disclosing your interest in it. Lets ask the government to publish the MoU. The issue here is, There has been a lot of effort (mostly volunteer based) to build up the current Free Software infrastructure that is about to finish (the transition from a proprietory infrastructure to a Free Software based one). It took 3 years of considerable effort and active participation from the Free Software community in Kerala. Now when everything is set up in a very commendable way, why is the change brought without the consultation with the community (teachers, students and volunteers)? We have played a part in this and it hurts when some one who claims to be a supporter of the "Knowledge Society" doesn't ask the community when such an important change is made. I'm not against the support for using Red Hat in goverment. The issue is the change brought out without cosultation with the community who had worked hard to bring about such a change. We had a lot of hopes in the IT policy and it is saddening to see the situation worsening and not any better. The previous government (which didn't have a IT policy supporting Free Software) took the decision to move to a completely Free Software based infrastructure because 85% of the teachers supported such a move (and they got such confidence because of the tireless efforts of the community and I'm proud to be a part of such an effort, though a smaller part). http://www.pravi.co.nr/2005/06/08/it-at-school-palakkad-support-group-forma… The issue here is the lack of consultation and transperency. We should know exactly what is in the MoU and what is the reasons for changing a successfully running project. It has been running successfully for the last 3 years. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign

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