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playfair will come online again!
by Anand Babu 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

I am now appointed as official Project Maintainer for "PlayFair". It is extremely important to defend my Freedom to innovate, research and write code. I want to register a domain-name and host a server in Bangalore. Can some one point me to a good service provider? -- Anand Babu Free as in Freedom <www.gnu.org>

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Global Naming .... Leads ??
by Tarun Gaur 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

Hi friends, Sorry to the oldies for being away from the revolution for quite some time and hi to the new members. Hail Open Source and FSF. I am looking for a Global Naming Architecture that could extend well beyond the digital world. Any Ideas, guesses, citations, something else ... Please help. regards, tarun ================================================= The most damaging phrase in the language is: 'It's always been done that way.' - Grace Murray Hopper _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail on your mobile. Messenger on your mobile. http://www.msn.co.in/mobile/ Stay connected to what matters.

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Naming Architecture .... Any Leads?
by Tarun Gaur 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

Hi Friends, Sorry to the oldies for being away from the revolution for quite some time and hi to the new members. Hail Open Source and FSF. I am looking for a Global Naming Architecture that could extend well beyond the digital world. Any Ideas, guesses, citations, something else ... Please help. regards, tarun ================================================= The most damaging phrase in the language is: 'It's always been done that way.' - Grace Murray Hopper _________________________________________________________________ Strike the right balance! News, gossip n fundas! http://www.msn.co.in/women/ Get it all at MSN Women!

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by Tarun Gaur 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

Hi Friends, Sorry to the oldies for being away from the revolution for quite some time and hi to the new members. Hail Open Source and FSF. I am looking for a Global Naming Architecture that could extend well beyond the digital world. Any Ideas, guesses, citations, something else ... Please help. regards, tarun ================================================= The most damaging phrase in the language is: 'It's always been done that way.' - Grace Murray Hopper _________________________________________________________________ Contact brides & grooms FREE! http://www.shaadi.com/ptnr.php?ptnr=hmltag Only on www.shaadi.com. Register now!

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Call the bluff
by Ramanraj K 20 Apr '04

20 Apr '04

Mahesh T. Pai wrote: >(adding RMS and the board to the CC list) > >Arun M said on Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 02:44:52PM +0530,: > > > How can FSF India go about fighting this issue legally.... > >This throws up a crucial issue about the role FSF has in India.... > >We need to reach out and down among the masses ... > >The people at sarovar.org were not willing to contest the dispute >because Apple had threatened to drag in their ISP, sponsor and the >company maintaining the website. > >These threats will apply also to us too, if we decide to host the >project. > > > -----Forwarded Message----- > > > So I request FSF India to take this challenge head on and mirror > > PlayFair in India, their by taking this case to court on behalf of > > free software enthusiasts. > >So far as the FSF-India is concerened, being a non-profit company... > >My opinion is based strictly on practical grounds - FSF India should >stay clear of this issue. > > > FSF India may avoid getting involved in this matter, without prejudice to any of its rights, and what follows is only for general information, so that members of this list are enlightened about these rights: Under the relevant portions of Section 52 of the Copyright Act, the following acts shall _not_ be infringement of copyright: (aa) the making or adaptation of a computer programme by the lawful possessor of a copy of such computer programme from such copy- (i) in order to utilise the computer programme for the purpose for which it was supplied; or (ii) to make back-up copies purely as a temporary protection against loss, destruction or damage in order only to utilise the computer programme for the purpose for which it was supplied; (ab)the doing of any act necessary to obtain information essential for operating inter-operability of an independently created computer programme with other programmes by a lawful possessor of a computer programme provided that such information is not otherwise readily available; (ac)the observation, study or test of functioning of the computer programme in order to determine the ideas and principles which underline any elements of the programme while performing such necessary acts necessary for the functions for which the computer programme was supplied; (ad)the making of copies or adaption of the computer programme from a personally legally obtained copy for non-commercial personal use; All these acts are specifically permitted by law. The program in question undoubtedly provided for inter-operabilty with Gnu, Gnu/Linux or FreeBSD systems. The so called copyright infringement is baseless. The law itself has provided the remedy against groundless threats too: Section 60. Remedy in the case of groundless threat of legal proceedings.- Where any person claiming to be the owner of copyright in any work, by circulars, advertisements or otherwise, threatens any other person with any legal proceedings or liability in respect of an alleged infringement of the copyright, any person aggrieved thereby may, notwithstanding anything contained in section 34 of the Specific Relief Act, 1963 (47 of 1963), institute a declaratory suit that the alleged infringement of any legal rights of the person making such threats and may in any such suit- (a) obtain an injunction against the continuance of such threats; and (b) recover such damages, if any, as he has sustained by reason of such threats. So please be aware of your rights. Though it is lawful and rightful to write such code, trivial programs are not that inspiring or exciting - there are so many other useful things waiting to be done.

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RE: [Fsf-friends] [OT] Say no to slavery and proprietary codecs
by Senthil_OR＠Dell.com 19 Apr '04

19 Apr '04

-----Original Message----- From: Ramanraj K Subject: [Fsf-friends] Say no to slavery and proprietary codecs Raj Mathur wrote: > > sdg> Hey, Looks like Apple has unleashed it's lawyers upon > sdg> sarovar.org for hosting fairplay. > sdg> http://sarovar.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=474 > >But let us also not give any undeserved free publicity to proprietary >companies. Let us stay focused on making the free and open software and >standards in music more accessible to more people. Ramanraj, One request.While replying kindly keep the subject line intact so that people (like me, who sort the mails in threaded fashion using the Subject line) may keep track and enjoy the discussion. Your subject line ofcourse relates to your content, but It would be a good ( list) practise I believe. What do you say? --- Senthil

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RE: [Fsf-friends] Unsubscription.
by Senthil_OR＠Dell.com 19 Apr '04

19 Apr '04

-----Original Message----- From:Tirthankar C. Patnaik Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:25 AM To: FSF Friends Subject: [Fsf-friends] Unsubscription. >>Folks, >> Could you please tell me how to unsubscribe from fsf-friends? I find I'm >> not able to provide the time I'd like anymore. -- You can unsubsribe by sending a mail to: fsf-friends-request(a)mm.gnu.org.in with subject unsubsribe. In case, you wish to know the other options provided by the software. Try the help command first. Sending a mail to the same id, but with the subject help. -- Senthil

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Document formats
by Mahesh T. Pai 18 Apr '04

18 Apr '04

What exactly is a standard? How do businessess profit from releasing document format specifications? Just found this interesting quote about PDF at http://news.com.com/2030-1046_3-5190097.html?tag=st.lh This is an interview with Bruce Chizen, Exec. VP, Adobe. <quote> (Q) You've documented a number of your key architectures: PostScript, PDF, and--albeit somewhat reluctantly--the Type 1 font format. But these are not open-source initiatives, nor are they official standards controlled by standards bodies like the World Wide Web Consortium. Although Adobe documents these formats, it alone still controls them. Have you found a profitable middle ground between proprietary architectures and open source? (A)With PostScript and PDF, we found that publishing the specifications--making them open, but not open standards, but not providing open source--is the right path for us. Once something becomes a standard driven by a standards body, it moves at a glacial pace. And innovation slows down significantly because you have to get everybody to agree and there's lots of compromise. If you make it totally open source, you don't get a return on investment. We believe that by opening up the specification, we allow other people to take advantage of it. But because we still own the source, we get to innovate around that standard more quickly than anybody else. We have found that to be a great balance. PDF is the best example of that. We work on Acrobat, we work on PDF, we announce the product, we ship it, and we open up the specification. We're already working on a whole series of applications, and we're already working on the next version of PDF. It seems to work. Customers are willing to pay a price--and even a premium--if they believe what they're buying is innovative and reliable. </quote> -- +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ Mahesh T. Pai, LL.M., 'NANDINI', S. R. M. Road, Ernakulam, Cochin-682018, Kerala, India. http://paivakil.port5.com +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Gnus Grazing @Bangalore-Announce
by Rakesh Ambati 18 Apr '04

18 Apr '04

--- Arun M <arun(a)gnu.org.in> wrote: > It may be a good idea to post the details of the > meeting to list, time > and place. Others may also come. ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Dear Friends, Here is the moment we were waiting for.I feel honored to invite you to the first unofficial 'Gnu(s) Grazing' meet. Date & Time =========== Sunday 18,April 2004 10:00 AM (Morning) Rendezvous Point ================ We will gather before the Gangaram's Book store on the M.G Road.Its next to Plaze theater.You can't miss it. For any further assistance you can email me off the list. This is the rendezvous point,ones all Gnu's arrive we'll hit someplace else.So try be there on time. What to do once you are there? ============================= Unfortunately,Once few of us meet each other in real world.So,just for the sake(its English sake, not Japanese ;D) of identification.Look out for guy in black T-Shirt with 'Active' written on it.That would be arky(\me). What we gonna do @ Unofficial Gnu(s) Grazing? ============================================ Now,that I leave it for your imagination. Perhaps we can discuss a road-plan for conducting such FSF related activities. Who's gonna be there ? ===================== We have Abhas,Senthil,Rahman,sajith. Who's missing ? =============== Arun (of course,he'll be with us soon) Sujith (he owe's us few cups of cappuccino) h'm am I missing anyone ? Cheers --arky PS: Please try to keep in touch so you are updated of the any changes. ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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[Fsf-friends] Preliminary Injunction for GPL Infringement Granted by German Court
by Seth Johnson 18 Apr '04

18 Apr '04

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: pho: Munich Court Grants Preliminary Injuction For GPL Violations Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:23:39 EDT From: StpHinkle(a)aol.com To: pho(a)onehouse.com > From http://www.netfilter.org/news/2004-04-15-sitecom-gpl.html Of interest to editors and journalists covering: Linux, Free Software, Open Source, Copyright Law MUNICH COURT GRANTS PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION FOR INFRINGING USE OF GPL LICENSED SOFTWARE BERLIN, Germany - Apr. 14, 2004 -- The Munich district court granted a preliminary injuction against Sitecom Germany GmbH (http://www.sitecom.com/). This injunctive relieve has been applied by the netfilter/iptables project (http://www.netfilter.org/). Sitecom is offering a wireless access router product (WL-122) based on software licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL), developed by the netfilter/iptables project. The GNU GPL is a license commonly used for many free software projects, such as the Linux Operating System Kernel. The GPL licenses software free of cost, but requires any redistributor to provide the full source code. According to the court order, Sitecom did not fulfill the obligations imposed by the GNU General Public License covering the netfilter/iptables software. In particular, Sitecom did not make any source code offering or include the GPL license terms with their products. Following a warning notice, Sitecom refused to sign a declaration to cease and desist. Thus, the netfilter/iptables project was compelled to ask the court for a preliminnary injuction, banning Sitecom from distributing its product, unless Sitecom complies with all obligations imposed by the GNU GPL. "To my knowledge, this is the first case in which a judicial decision has been decreed on the applicability and the validity of the GNU GPL", says Dr. Till Jaeger, partner of the Berlin and Munich based law firm JBB Rechtsanwaelte (http://www.jbb.de/) that represented the netfilter/iptables project in the litigation. This preliminary injunction follows a series of out-of-court settlement agreements that the netfilter/iptables project has concluded within a short period of time. When asked about the reasons for the sudden rise in legal pressure for GPL compliance, Harald Welte, Chairman of the Netfilter Core Team states: "We are not in any way opposing the commercial use of free and open source software. Specifically, there is no legal risk of using GPL licensed software in commercial products. But vendors have to comply with the license terms, just like they would have to with any other, even proprietary software license agreement." About the netfilter/iptables project The netfilter/iptables project provides state-of-the-art network security software for Linux firewalling, packet filter and network address translation (NAT), distributed as Free Software under the terms of the GNU General Public License. Being part of the linux operating system kernel, the software is running on virtually every Linux installation. For more information on the project or the software, visit http://www.netfilter.org/ Media contact: netfilter core team Harald Welte Phone: +49-30-24033902 Email: laforge(a)netfilter.org -- DRM is Theft! We are the Stakeholders! New Yorkers for Fair Use http://www.nyfairuse.org [CC] Counter-copyright: http://realmeasures.dyndns.org/cc I reserve no rights restricting copying, modification or distribution of this incidentally recorded communication. Original authorship should be attributed reasonably, but only so far as such an expectation might hold for usual practice in ordinary social discourse to which one holds no claim of exclusive rights.

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[Fsf-friends] Re: Re: [India-egov] Microsoft to conduct five e-Gov seminars in India,10 March 2004(fwd)
by Atul Asthana ＠ home 18 Apr '04

18 Apr '04

Dear Frederick, I guess, we need to draft a letter which brings out the comparitive advantages of using open source in the government. We also need to ensure that OSS becomes part of school and college syllabi. We can then publish the letter on various lists and let people choose as to what their concerns are. Regards. Atul Asthana atulasthana(a)gmx.net 2004-03-15 20:40:05 First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. --Mahatma Gandhi ======= At 2004-03-15, 13:32:00 Frederick Noronha (FN) fred(a)bytesforall.org wrote: ======= >Hi Atul, I certainly think this should be done. You have my full support. >Copying this to FSF-FRIENDS. We can locate the MPs' names (even if the Lok >Sabha has been dissolved) from the parliament.nic.in site. At least in the >Rajya Sabha for now. In addition, we could also get friendly MPs to raise >parliamentary questions. I know a couple, and FLOSS issues have already >been raised in the Indian parliament, thanks to them. FN > >On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Atul Asthana @ home wrote: > >> Dear Frederick, >> >> Was planning to start a campaign to write to MLAs/MPs, Ministers, >> Bureaucrats stating advantages of OSS over Microsoft. >> Do you think that this campaign can be initiated thru any of the >> mailing lists (you and I are on, or otherwise)? That is we encourage >> people on the mailing lists to write to their representatives, >> bueaucrats known to them etc? >> Its not a difficult task to find names and addresses of >> MLAs/MPs/Bureaucrats. >> >> >> Regards. >> Atul Asthana >> atulasthana(a)gmx.net >> 2004-03-15 09:51:53 >> >> First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. >> --Mahatma Gandhi >> >> ======= At 2004-03-10, 13:54:00 Frederick Noronha (FN) fred(a)sancharnet.in wrote: ======= >> >> >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > >> > >> >10 March, 2004 [ www.i4donline.net ] >> > >> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >Microsoft to conduct five e-Gov seminars in India >> >Microsoft Corporation India today announced a series of five >> >e-Governance seminars targeted at bureaucrats and Government >> >officials. The first seminar in the series will be held at Bhopal. >> >Targeted at bureaucrats and government officials, the seminars >> >will be conduced across of Madhya Pradesh, Haryana, Rajasthan, >> >Orissa and West Bengal. >> >http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2004/03/10/stories/2004031002281700.htm > >> > >> ><*> To visit your group on the web, go to: >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/India-egov/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > March 2004 | Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist >Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 > 1 2 3 4 5 6 | ---------------------------------------- > 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | Email fred at bytesforall.org >14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | Writing with a difference >21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ... on what makes *the* difference >28 29 30 31 | http://www.bytesforall.org >------------------------------------------------------------------- >CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html >------------------------------------------------------------------- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

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Re: [LIG] [OT] Sarovar, Fairplay, Apple
by Rajkumar S 17 Apr '04

17 Apr '04

Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > Hey, > Looks like Apple has unleashed it's lawyers upon sarovar.org for hosting > fairplay. > http://sarovar.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=474 Yes, sarovar team has decided to pull the project down. It was not a happy decision to take, but too many factors were out of our control and people want to avoid court appearances if possible. This case sets dangerous precedents, and if I am right is the first use of litigation against a free software site in India. Corporations are using litigation as a very effective weapon against freedom, as free software hackers have little defense against it. I personally believe that an organization like FSF India should take up this case on behalf of free software hackers in this country and we all should support them in this endeavor. I personally have many difference of opinion with some of the policies and actions of FSF India, but this is not the time to think about the differences, but what we have in common. This is a threat against all of us and we all should give our support to FSF India in fighting it, if they decide to do so. I have already written to FSF Board to consider this, and extending all support including what ever money I can muster to fight this case. I request you all to write to RMS and fsf board expressing your support, in what ever way you can, to help them fight this. Today it's me, Tomorrow it could be any one of us. raj

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Unsubscription.
by Tirthankar C. Patnaik 17 Apr '04

17 Apr '04

Folks, Could you please tell me how to unsubscribe from fsf-friends? I find I'm not able to provide the time I'd like anymore. TIA, -tir -- -- Tirthankar, IGIDR. +91-22-2840 0919 x275 (r), x593(o), x542(CFL). http://www.igidr.ac.in/~tir FIDELITY, n. A virtue peculiar to those who are about to be betrayed.

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RE: [Fsf-friends] Gnus Grazing @Bangalore-Announce
by Senthil_OR＠Dell.com 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

All are welcome! If feel joining us "Gnus Grazing" ,we would be more than happy to hear about it and meet you there (and share our fodder as well). Date & Time =========== Sunday 18,April 2004 10:00 AM (Morning) Rendezvous Point ================ We will gather before the Gangaram's Book store on the M.G Road. -- Senthil Phone# 36945246 -----Original Message----- From: Rakesh Ambati Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:30 PM To: Arun M; fsf Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Gnus Grazing @Bangalore-Announce --- Arun M <arun(a)gnu.org.in> wrote: > It may be a good idea to post the details of the > meeting to list, time > and place. Others may also come. ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Dear Friends, Here is the moment we were waiting for.I feel honored to invite you to the first unofficial 'Gnu(s) Grazing' meet. Date & Time =========== Sunday 18,April 2004 10:00 AM (Morning) Rendezvous Point ================ We will gather before the Gangaram's Book store on the M.G Road.Its next to Plaze theater.You can't miss it. For any further assistance you can email me off the list. This is the rendezvous point,ones all Gnu's arrive we'll hit someplace else.So try be there on time. What to do once you are there? ============================= Unfortunately,Once few of us meet each other in real world.So,just for the sake(its English sake, not Japanese ;D) of identification.Look out for guy in black T-Shirt with 'Active' written on it.That would be arky(\me). What we gonna do @ Unofficial Gnu(s) Grazing? ============================================ Now,that I leave it for your imagination. Perhaps we can discuss a road-plan for conducting such FSF related activities. Who's gonna be there ? ===================== We have Abhas,Senthil,Rahman,sajith. Who's missing ? =============== Arun (of course,he'll be with us soon) Sujith (he owe's us few cups of cappuccino) h'm am I missing anyone ? Cheers --arky PS: Please try to keep in touch so you are updated of the any changes.

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Gnus Grazing @Bangalore
by Rakesh Ambati 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

Morning Abhas, > As for the venue of the meet, if all of you are fine > with travelling a > little bit, we would glad to host the meet at our > office in Yelahanka New > Town (YNT). YNT is towards the northern most extreme > of Bangalore and off > the Hyderabad highway. Thank you abhas,you are being supportive as always.I guess we have to hear to views of those involved. What do you say,guys? > > Otherwise, if this is inconvenient, we could meet up > any other place as > well. > We'll this Sunday morning few of us are meeting for a cup of tea on M G Road,Bangalore.If you interested to meet please let me know. I'll be sending a email to all the people who conformed with the necessary details off the list. --arky __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Gnus Grazing
by Rakesh Ambati 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

Hi Suraj & Senthil, Perhaps we can have a informal Gnus Grazing this weekend.Am looking for a grazier (sponsor) who can provide us a gazing (place to meet). If anyone is interested in providing a premises for the meet,Please send me a email off list. --arky --- Suraj <suraj(a)symonds.net> wrote: > Senthil_OR(a)Dell.com wrote on Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at > 12:19:01PM +0530: > ,---- > | Welcome! It would be good meeting for us all. > And I have seen few > | others (from blore) at fsf-friends list. Lets > | call 'em up as well. > `---- > > whoa! I would love to meet up! When? Where? > > cheers, > > -Suraj > > -- > ,-----------------[http://www.symonds.net/~suraj/]---o > | Britain adopted the Gregorian calender in 1752, by > which time they were 11 > | days behind the rest of Europe, which had changed > in 1582. The date was simply > | moved forward - September 3rd became September > 14th. > `------------------------------[suraj(a)symonds.net]---o __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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[Anand Babu] Re: thanks
by Anand Babu 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

-- _.|_ (_||_) Free as in Freedom <www.gnu.org>

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Article on free software... reporting from India
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hi everyone, I have written an article on free software in India and Canada. You can read it at: http://www.rabble.ca/news_full_story.shtml?sh_itm=3d9755aef06d3654ab98d07488 e37a5a&r=1 There is also a discussion happening in the babble section: http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=31&t=000211 Please send out to as many people as you can in India. Cheers, Frédéric Dubois Independent journalist Montreal, Canada

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Events in technical festival
by Sumit Suman 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Hi, I'm a third year computer science and engineering undergaduate at IIT Guwahati. IITG has a number of students with tremendous interest in open source softwares and development. In general there is a strong support base for the cause. We also run among other things a mirror server for Debian distributions. IITG is celebrating the sixth edition of its national level technical fetival - Techniche 2004 from 3rd to 5th September 2004. We are willing to provide a major focus to open source in this festival. The possibilities could be - 1. An lecture by a very popular personality - like Alan Cox(is it possible to get him to India? if yes, how?) 2. A workshop on open source for engineering students(IITG + colleges of North East, W. Bengal, Bihar, Orissa, etc).(Who all can conduct this and what can be the focus areas?) 3. A contest for students for open source development. It would be of immense help if you could offer your valuable suggestions. Eagerly awaiting your response, Sumit Suman --

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Project Gutenberg Buys Amazon.com
by Rakesh Ambati 12 Apr '04

12 Apr '04

hello list, Here something very interesting to read. http://www.gutenberg.net/events/pg-amazon-apr1.html -arky __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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Project Gutenberg (revisiting issue)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 12 Apr '04

12 Apr '04

A hoax for a good cause... hope this drew some more attention to Project Gutenberg. Imran, copyright-expired books is one category. It's also possible to put up there books who's authors have no objection to sharing. I got two such books put up in the past few months. One was a book on wildlife experences in Goa, and the other, a critique of journalism in this part of India written collaboratively by 21 journalists. I do wish too that many more India-related books would be up on Project Gutenberg. I read recently of a contract given to IIIT-Hyderabad for digitising books on "numerous topics". They were contracted by the Universal Digital Library (UDL) and claim good progress. But I'm not sure what purpose these digitised books would be deployed for. Free software ideals should go beyond software... and into various other fields. FN > From: Imran William Smith <imran(a)imran.info> Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] > Project Gutenberg Buys Amazon.com To: fsf-friends(a)gnu.org.in Message-ID: > <4076FE56.6030200(a)imran.info> Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Check the URL. April 1st. i.e. it's a joke. > > Nevertheless, I encourage everyone to investigate Project Gutenberg and > consider contributing. The aim is to transcribe large amounts of paper > books and other texts into electronic format, provided that their > copyright has expired (making this legal). > > Imran Malaysia > > > Rakesh Ambati wrote: > > >hello list, > > > >Here something very interesting to read. > > > >http://www.gutenberg.net/events/pg-amazon-apr1.html

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Microsoft's midlife crisis
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

MICROSOFT'S Midlife Crisis BusinessWeek - USA ... Robert W. Egan, vice-president for information technology at Boise Cascade Corp. ... Tech companies are staring hungrily at China and India as their next growth ... <http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2004/tc2004049_0994.htm>

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[Fsf-friends] Asia FLOSS issues: Mailing list for sharing information
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

In view of the need to share *information* about what's happening on the Free/Libre and Open Source Software space in Asia, I have set up this mailing list, and would like to invite everyone interested to join the same. - To post on your mailing list, simply send email to gnulinuxinasia(a)freelists.org. - Users can subscribe to your list by sending email to gnulinuxinasia-request(a)freelists.org with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface. - Log on to http://www.freelists.org/list/gnulinuxinasia - Online, searchable archives of your list are available at http://www.freelists.org/archives/gnulinuxinasia Each list's archive is automatically updated as new messages come in. Thank you. FN ----------------------------------------------------------------- April 2004 | Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 1 2 3 | ---------------------------------------- 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | Email fred at bytesforall.org 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 | Writing with a difference 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 | ... on what makes *the* difference 25 26 27 28 29 30 | http://www.bytesforall.org ------------------------------------------------------------------- CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- Urgent email to fredericknoronha at vsnl.net Mobile 9822 122436

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[Fwd]: Digital Signatures - Acrobat
by Mahesh T. Pai 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

For your information. ----- Forwarded message from Ken Walker <kgw(a)lunar.ca> ----- > Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:19:32 +0000 > From: Ken Walker <kgw(a)lunar.ca> > Subject: Digital Signatures - Acrobat > To: Debian-Lex <debian-lex(a)lists.debian.org> > User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 > > I practice law in British Columbia. Although I use Linux on our file and > print server, I have not yet changed the several other workstations to Linux. > I like what I see in OpenOffice and have plans to switch the support staff > over to the windows version of that package and then, if that works out, go > to an all Linux network. > > Suddenly though, there is a problem. Our Law Society and the provincial > government have developed a new system for land title registrations > ( http://srmwww.gov.bc.ca/landtitle/EFS_web_site/) and for corporate registry > filings ( http://srmwww.gov.bc.ca/landtitle/EFS_web_site/) > > The Land Title system require digital signatures and use pdf format files for > documents submitted. I am not sure at this point whether the Corporate > Registry requires digital signatures. The use of Acrobat Standard v6 is > required for Land Titles and it is only available in MSWindows. See > http://www.juricert.com/j2a/efs.htm. > > Generally the various registries do not seem to recommend use of anything but > Windows and Mac software: > https://www.bconline.gov.bc.ca/system_req.html > > I am wondering whether any others in the Debian-Lex group have dealt with > these sorts of issues before and in particular whether there is Linux > software capable of editing pdf files and attaching a digital signature the > same way that Acrobat Standard does. > > I suspect that this sort of authentication will be required by various > registries as this sort of interaction with government grows. It is > something we ought to keep in mind as Debian-Lex is developed > -- > Ken Walker > http://lunar.ca > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-lex-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ Mahesh T. Pai, LL.M., 'NANDINI', S. R. M. Road, Ernakulam, Cochin-682018, Kerala, India. http://paivakil.port5.com +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+

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Gnus Grazing
by Rakesh Ambati 11 Apr '04

11 Apr '04

Morning Friends, Happy Easter !! For a few weeks now, I was trying to find out whether there is any kind of meeting of GNU members here is bangalore.It seems there is none.(Please correct me ?) While interacting with some of my friends here on FSF-Friends mailing list,I thought of calling for such regular meeting. H'm, why don't we name it as a 'Gnu Grazing'. Anyone interested ? cheers arky __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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PERL application with Indian scripts...
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 10 Apr '04

10 Apr '04

------------------------------ From: Kalyana Krishnan <rkk(a)acharya.iitm.ac.in> Subject: PERL applications with Indian scripts Date: 9 Apr 2004 14:50:34 GMT Greetings, Kindly include the following in the announcements. Kalyana Krishnan Professor IIT Madras Chennai India - 600 036 ====================================================================== PERL programs for use with Indian languages/scripts (Systems running Linux) Greetings from Chennai, India. Multilingual software applications supporting user interfaces in Indian languages may now be written in PERL. The required modules for permitting Indian language scripts to be processed by standard PERL are now available for those interested in working with PERL and localizing applications. Please visit http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/software/sources/perl.html Over the years, several persons have asked for the sources of the applications distributed by the acharya site. Systems Development Lab, where the multilingual software has been developed over a period of nearly 12 years, has decided to make all the sources available to all interested persons, through a new OpenSource project at sourceforge. http://imli.sourceforge.net/ The syllable level coding scheme, which forms the basis for text representation in all the multilingual applications developed at the lab, has also been discussed for the benefit of developers. Please see http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/software/sources/scheme.html Sources for more than twenty packages, ranging from Multilingual editors, linguistic applications, search engines, web page creation, font generation, Text to Speech Synthesis, email etc., will be available over the next six to eight weeks, as volunteers prune the sources, document them and present the same for further developemnt. Students in Engineering colleges, looking for projects will benefit from the availability of the sources. The basic resources required for working with all the scripts in use in the country, including Urdu will be made available as part of this effort. For specific information please get in touch with rkk(a)acharya.iitm.ac.in ==================================================================== ########################################################################## # Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: cola(a)stump.algebra.com # # PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION. # # This group is archived at http://stump.algebra.com/~cola/ # ##########################################################################

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Edu Morphix now available online
by Sajith VK 10 Apr '04

10 Apr '04

Hi, We are happy to inform that eduMorphix is now available online. please visit http://freesoftware.keltron.org/edumorphixcd.html Its a GNU/Linux distribution for education institutes. It contains a lot of education softwares, along with common application needed..... Its the experimental release. so need heavy testing... We need your comments!, Please use it and give suggestions..... Thanks and regards -- "Freedom Matters" Sajith VK

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FLOSSinINDIA: What's in LINUXForYou April 2004
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

OPEN SOURCE (OR SHOULD WE SAY FREE/LIBRE AND OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE?) speaks local languages of India: FLOSS enthusiasts across the globe are getting together to enable your PC to speak Hindi, Malayalam, Bangla, Marathi, and many other languages. And they are succeeding in their mission. (Features a lot of the guysyou might know -- G Karunakar, Prakash Adavani, Venkatesh Hariharan, Prof Jitendra Shah, Arun Sharma, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay, Shikha Pillai, Dr Nagarjuna and others). * Linux Nirvana: keeping your system in top shape * Using USB devices in GNU/Linux * MindTree uses GNU/Linux for a customised consumer product * Tata Teleservices implements a FLOSS-based terminal server at its Ahmedabad call centre * How Zope, a content management tool, helped Epson America. RAHUL CHOPRA, EDITOR: "Once you understand Open Source, I believe, you will get hooked on to it." * Motorola launches multimedia GNU/Linux mobile phone * Mandrake releases Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community * Trial copies of Linux scanner software http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html * Kernel 2.6.4 released http://www.kernel.org/mirrors/ * Major updates and releases: Gentoo Linux 2004.0, AD}IOS v3.0, Coyote Linux v2.10 Beta 2; MoviX v0.8.1, PostgreSQL v7.3.6; phpMyAdmin v2.5.6; Nmap Security Scanner v3.50; Knoppixv3.4 * DO YOU ARGEE withAlolita Sharma's view that "protecting intellectual property is central to the growing success of the Open Source industry"? Quote: At minimum, recognition and attribution are required, as exemplified in the traditional MIT or BSD licenses. More frequently today, copyright is employed to ensure that the covered work remains an active agent of the collaborative software community. This is exemplified in the GPL, LGPL and MPL licenses." (from "How is IP used in Open Source?") * Blender: the basics of modelling * CrossOver Office * Simple macros with OpenOffice Writer (By SM) * Piloting data in OpenOffice Calc (By SM) * Beat LFY: Why this magazine needs several rivals (Niyam Bhushan) * The Linux Learning Curve * BitTorrent: a peer-to-peer file sharing protocol * eCos: Royalty-free real-time soln for OS developers * IPCop: cut-down distro, intended to operate as a firewall * Basics of Linux signals * Another alternative model based on 'capabilities'. * Functions in Python * Webmin: The administrator's mate * List of LUGs and GNU/LUGs across India * GNUnify 2004: FOSSed out in Pune EXTRALinuxPRO: Build yourself an arcade game player... SOFTWARE INCLUDED THIS MONTHS: * Achievo: Web-based project management * AIRA: business class management (ERP) software * SCRIBUS: Easy-to-use tool for simple DTP * RICHARD M STALLMAN VIDEO: RMS' views on free software * LINUX-2.6.3: Latest release of the Linux kernel * ARCADE GAME: Convert yours into an arcade game-playing machine * MONKEY: Small Web server * BitTORRENT 3.3: Downloading utility for GNU/Linux * DISCOVERER: Small 802.11b network detector for GNU/Linux * MOBILE GUIDE: Complete documentation * 4tH COMPILER: Conventional compiler, instead of standard Forth engine * APACHE TOOLBOX: Easier way to install Apache * DrJAVA: Integrated Java development environment and more * DISK2: Standard business server -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- March 2004 | Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 1 2 3 4 5 6 | ---------------------------------------- 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | Email fred at bytesforall.org 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | Writing with a difference 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ... on what makes *the* difference 28 29 30 31 | http://www.bytesforall.org ------------------------------------------------------------------- CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html -------------------------------------------------------------------

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Shell hackers::solve this
by Rakesh Ambati 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

Hi list, So this piece of shell displays a warning on the top five lines of the shell. The problem is 'clear' wipes it.Now how to prevent it ? <code> /bin/echo -e '\033[05;25r'; /bin/echo -e "Hackers Beware \n\n\n" </code> --arky __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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[Fsf-friends] Schools to get $20 m grant from Microsoft India, 7 April, 2004 (fwd)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

This probably needs to be noted. FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 7 April, 2004 [ www.i4donline.net ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Schools to get $20 m grant from Microsoft India To push local language computing in the State, Microsoft Corporation India Ltd announced the roll-out of its $20- million IT education programme for schools in India and an agreement on a programme with the Orissa Government. Language matters, Windows, MS Office to be in 5 Indian languages With the aim of promoting business, Microsoft India has devised a three-pronged strategy in India this year. The company will be focussing on �accelerating IT literacy, improving security and enabling local IT opportunities through vernacular language interfaces� in and around its software packages. UN report: e-government in region faces multiple snags - Lebanon Countries in the Middle East may talk the technological lingo, but just how serious most are about preparing, promoting and facilit- ating the use of electronic government and actual electronic par- ticipation remains to be seen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your comments and suggestions and request for subscribe/unsubscribe are welcome at info(a)i4donline.net www.i4donline.net [The first monthly magazine on ICT4D] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Fwd: Joint Statement about GNU/Linux Security
by Kanti Jadia 07 Apr '04

07 Apr '04

Note: Forwarded message attached -- Orignal Message -- From: Martin Schulze <joey(a)infodrom.org> To: Debian News Channel <debian-news(a)lists.debian.org> Subject: Joint Statement about GNU/Linux Security ----------------------------------------- Enjoy your Freedom,use GNU/Linux. http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html -----------------------------------------

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OSI Vs FSF
by Rakesh Ambati 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

Dear Friends, Peace reign at last on our list, I don't wish to alter that.But sometimes I wonder whether this the calm before the storm. We are had our arguments over this issue and we shall many more.I wrote this story to show my view on this matter.Hope you'll enjoy it. --arky Of All Money's Worth ===================== Copyright (c) 2004 Rakesh "arky" Ambati.See end for copying conditions. Preface ======= This story was written to portray what I feel separates OSI from FSF philosophy.It trys not to support either of schools, but I leaves it you as the reader to decide. Am a wanderer. I have no home and nothing to call my own, I wonder what's the use for such things for the one who's seeks the essence. My early years were spent in the land of my teachers, studying the mystical world of magic, now I wander where the essence leads me. Through the golden sands of the desert I pass, to the the city of kaliya. It is written by the wise of the old ages, that those who seek with find it here in this noble land. Through the ages men came here,in search of fortune and fame. Upon this blessed soil I walk, mingling in the crowd of this thriving city. Walking through the street I savored upon the sights. 'Make way for the royal magician'.The palanquin bearer called. Lost in thoughts,I found myself standing before a majestic palanquin. 'Has the royal magician's forgotten to walk or ' I asked 'they can't bear his weight any more'. The palanquin bears stood silently, Wondering whether my time on this earth has come to end,thus I dare to speak so. 'No my brother' I magician said getting out of the palanquin.'the magician walks with his equal' 'Bless this day, we meet again' he said. He dismissed the palanquin bearers who rushed to the magician house to make arrangements for guest. 'Walk with me, my brother for we have lot to talk'.The magician said Leaving the bustling streets we came upon a path that took us to pond filled with lotus flowers. 'The royal magical has a great heart' I said. 'A great heart and wealth to match' he said. 'The patrons of this land are benevolent, my magic brings me fame and wealth' he said. 'Your wanderings has brought you to this great city.Your magic is great,here it will be measured in silver and gold'. 'The essence is for all who seek, its not for the pleasure of few' I said. 'Does the great essence diminish if you seek its worth in gold'.The magician asked. 'The essence can not be measured,none but the one who seek it know its worth' I said. The magician was silent,I looked over the pond filled with lotus flowers.Few children came running down the path carrying small water pitchers,gleefully laughing. A little girl chased a boy who snatched her flower. She came running and brushed against the royal magician. The pitcher slipped as the girl stumbled and broke into pieces.Seeing the royal magician and a stranger the children ran. The royal magician raised the crying girl and said 'Cry not for what's broken.Here, take this silver and buy yourself a new one.' The little girl threw the coins and broke into renewed sobs. With the ends of my flowing rob I wiped the tears of the girl and said 'No Cry,My Princess.Tell me what you wish.' The little girl turned her gaze to the shards of her lovely pitcher. Smiling, I moved my palms over her eyes and said. 'My Princess, take your lovely pitcher and go home happy'. The girl's face glowed with pleasure looking at her pitcher. She cradled the pitcher in her arms and went home smiling. I looked at the silver lying in dust and thought 'Of all the money's worth, couldn't bring the smile on a child's face'. Copying ======= Copyright (c) 2004 Rakesh "arky" Ambati. Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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Request::Share your source.list
by Rakesh Ambati 05 Apr '04

05 Apr '04

Hello list, Can you please share your deb sources.list file. Am hooked up with a 128kbs link to a bangalore-mantra ISP.If you have taken pains to build your sources.list localised for indian bandwidth needs,I request you to please share it with me. My debian_version is testing/unstable TIA -arky __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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MS Releases software under GPL like license.
by Rajkumar S 05 Apr '04

05 Apr '04

Hi, More at http://blogs.msdn.com/robmen/category/4625.aspx and http://sourceforge.net/projects/wix/ It's released under the IBM Common Public License or CPL The CPL is a 'copyleft' license, just like the GPL. The main point of difference is that the CPL has a software-patent protection clause, which the GPL does not. (However, Eben Moglen has indicated that this may be included in the next version of the GPL, which would make it compatible) raj

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Simputer
by balachandran c 05 Apr '04

05 Apr '04

>Fred, >I think BBC missed the point here. The Simputer happens to be the first hardware experiment on GPL using the FSF mode of development. >Except that the license for the Simputer is non-free[3]. You cannot >make commercial use of the hardware : > >"Any commercial exploitation of the Specifications (whether Simputer >or Simputerized) involves a nominal one time payment to the Trust. The >payment will be $25,000 for developing countries and $250,000 for >developed countries." They charged a good amount for development tools, even for educational institutions. We (at IIITA) had requested some tools when picopeta themselves tried to market the product (sans the amida thingy). They were interested only in selling the product and devel. tools to us. One of the professors told me that they were concerned more about "protecting their Eye-Pee" than letting students work on the system (effectively porting softwares to their system for free). In the end, we didnt buy anything from them. I hope things have changed for the better. bala

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GisMorphix available online
by Sajith VK 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Hi, We are glad to anounce that "GisMorphix" is now available online. Its a GNU/Linux distribution for Scientific applications in general and Gis applications in perticular. Its based on Morphix and Debian GNU/Linux. Please loot at http://freesoftware.keltron.org/gismorphix-cd.html Major packaes includes GRASS, thuban, Qgis, gmt, igmt, octave etc. Applications needed for common tasks like Office suite, mail client etc are also included, which makes it a complete Operating system. All softwares in this CD are freesoftwares. If you dont have enough bandwidth to download the cd, please let us know. We can write a CD and send it to you,(only If Inside India)..... Looking for your comments..... -- "Freedom Matters" Sajith VK

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Simputer on BBC : Missing the point
by doxa＠sancharnet.in 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

> 1. * Simputer for poor goes on sale * (Frederick Noronha (FN)) >A cheap handheld computer created by Indian scientists is launched >after a delay of nearly three years. Fred, I think BBC missed the point here. The Simputer happens to be the first hardware experiment on GPL using the FSF mode of development. CK Raju Thrissur

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Latest CDs
by swathantra software 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

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Re: [Fsf-friends] .Emacs and .gnus.el file
by gnu＠vsnl.net 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Here is mine: http://www.hackgnu.org/files/dot-emacs.el http://www.hackgnu.org/files/dot-gnus.el Happy Hacking! -- Ramakrishnan

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.Emacs and .gnus.el file
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

Could someone share with me the file please? Hi AB, how are things? FN On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 fsf-friends-request(a)mm.gnu.org.in wrote: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:30:26 +0530 > From: Ramanraj K <ramanraj(a)md4.vsnl.net.in> > Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Gnus configuration > To: fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in > Message-ID: <406ADD0A.8060400(a)md4.vsnl.net.in> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > I would like to thank Anand Babu <ab(a)gnu.org.in> <mailto:ab@gnu.org.in> > who shared his .emacs and .gnus.el file with me, that got me started > with reading and sending mail with gnus almost immediately. Thanks to > Annamalai Gurusami<annamalai.gurusami(a)email.masconit.com> > <mailto:annamalai.gurusami@email.masconit.com> for sharing his .gnus.el > file > > Those interested in getting started with gnus may visit http://my.gnus.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fsf-friends mailing list > Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in > http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends > > > End of Fsf-friends Digest, Vol 12, Issue 1 > ****************************************** > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- March 2004 | Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 1 2 3 4 5 6 | ---------------------------------------- 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | Email fred at bytesforall.org 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | Writing with a difference 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ... on what makes *the* difference 28 29 30 31 | http://www.bytesforall.org ------------------------------------------------------------------- CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html -------------------------------------------------------------------

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[Anand Babu] Re: [Fsf-friends] Gnus configuration
by Anand Babu 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

-- _.|_ (_||_) Free as in Freedom <www.gnu.org>

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GNU/HURD
by Rakesh Ambati 02 Apr '04

02 Apr '04

hi friends, I heard one Mr.Babu from bangalore is doing some great dev work for GNU/HURD. If you are reading this post,Babu Good work. BTW Can anyone living in bangalore lend/donate a GNU/HURD CD! TIA arky Do all hackers hate doing their laundry ? ;-p __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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GNU OrgaDoc 0.8 released (fwd)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 01 Apr '04

01 Apr '04

---------- Forwarded message ---------- OrgaDoc has been designed to easily copy and maitain a pool of documents between computers. You can synchronise your documents pool with rsync or unison. You don't need to install a database server (like MySql or PostgreSql), a HTTP server, a script language (like php, perl, ...). You only need orgadoc to generate html pages and to perform queries. You can find the new release here: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/orgadoc/orgadoc-0.8.tar.gz ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/orgadoc/orgadoc-0.8.tar.gz.sig Here are the md5 sums: bcd2465d17fbfc724bbf77c926f8560f orgadoc-0.8.tar.gz be5e35fc4dad3720c37d275779d0592a orgadoc-0.8.tar.gz.sig -- Julien Lemoine _______________________________________________ GNU Announcement mailing list <info-gnu(a)gnu.org> http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnu

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Gnus configuration
by Ramanraj K 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

Could any member using gnus to read mail share his .gnus.el file with me?

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Queries about FLOSS...
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 31 Mar '04

31 Mar '04

Could anyone offer some inputs to these queries below, from Mayur of E&TC, Pune? On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, mayur m wrote: > Hello Mr. Fredrick Noronha > I am an engineering > student of e&tc branch from pune writing u this > letter.... > I am greatly interested > in opensource and free software. > i would like to make a career in open source but i > have some doubts which i think u can clear: > > 1) There are so many versions of linux so how do the > common people come to know what is best for them. > 2)in linux community is there someone controls the > development and expansion of the open source free > software(someone who is the pathfinder).if there isn�t > anyone don�t u think ultimately there will be > fragmentation of linux like it happened in the past > with Unix. > Secondly why is there no democratic body at the core > which oversees development of software in open source > arena I am talking especially about linux > development.A democratic body if formed would not only > help development of software and oversee it but at the > same time convenience people that linux is not going > to get fragmented like Unix did and rise confidence in > minds of the common user about linux and open source > which could further be strengthened by the > participation of linux user groups. > > 3)The companies supporting free software&open source > are supporting with what motives is quite > questionable. .Is it to bring down a monopoly or make > their own (this refers to the current battle between > big blue & Redmond giant.and the takeover of SUSE > Linux by IBM and NOVELL) > > 4)After the SCO case I think developers who develop > open source software and especially linux must come > together ,sit and decide that further such an event > does not happen.(it may not affect linux and open > source community but it does drive out companies who > are ready to embrace linux by bringing suspicion in > their minds.) > > 5) Why is everyone trying to make a new package > (distribution) of linux by adding or deleting some > applications and some core requirements .Do people > need more distributions of linux or applications. The > same goes with applications. How many music players is > a person supposed to install on his pc.then why > develop so many players instead come togethar and > develop a music player which is absolutely mind > boggling in terms of features. Wouldn�t this be more > preffered? > What do you think please do tell me ur remarks and do > correct me if my line of thinking was wrong somewhere. > I would like to have a word from u please do send me a > mail. > > > Yours faithfully; > Mayur > (Opensourcelover(a)yahoo.com) > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- March 2004 | Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 1 2 3 4 5 6 | ---------------------------------------- 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | Email fred at bytesforall.org 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | Writing with a difference 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ... on what makes *the* difference 28 29 30 31 | http://www.bytesforall.org ------------------------------------------------------------------- CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html -------------------------------------------------------------------

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[FLOSSToday] First Software Freedom Day (fwd)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

Can we do something to mark this date in Goa and other parts of India? FN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- First Software Freedom Day August 28, Online The Software Freedom Day initiative intends to make the world aware of the existence, availability, and high quality of free and open source software (FOSS), and to encourage its use by as many people as possible. It's a global grassroots campaign and anyone can participate. It is up to the individual teams to choose how to organize their efforts locally, but the organisers are offering to assist with bulk production of posters, T-shirts, CDs, etc. FOSS advocacy groups around the world are invited to become partners in this event. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ ---------------- Knowledge should be shared www.plos.org I Support PLoS Public Library of Science ----------------- _______________________________________________ Flosstoday mailing list Flosstoday(a)sarai.net https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/flosstoday

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China to hoist Red Flag in Indian GNU/Linux market
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

CHINA To Hoist Red Flag In Indian Linux Market CXOtoday.com - India Red Hats monopolistic hold on the Indian market, which has made the brand almost a synonym of sorts to the word Linux, is all set to change with the ... <http://www.cxotoday.com/cxo/jsp/index.jsp?section=News&subsection=Business&…> See all stories on this topic: <http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&client=google&num=3…>

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* Simputer for poor goes on sale *
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 30 Mar '04

30 Mar '04

---------- Forwarded message ---------- * Simputer for poor goes on sale * A cheap handheld computer created by Indian scientists is launched after a delay of nearly three years. Full story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/-/1/hi/technology/3578309.stm

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RE: A must read
by N S Srikanth 28 Mar '04

28 Mar '04

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:45:20 +0530 "Mahesh T. Pai" <paivakil(a)vsnl.net> wrote: > Just published. > > `Free Culture' - a book by Larry Lessig. > > Available for free under a free of cost license from > http://www.free-culture.cc/freecontent/ or for a price from Penguin. > > He admits that his ideas were propounded by RMS a few decades back. > > Fours hours after publications, I am at page 30 of the pdf. Dear Mr Pai, Though not exactly talking only about techonology, The book "Third Wave" by Alvin Toffler is also about the same subject of change, how it threatens the existing institutions etc., I am yet to finish that book also , only gone through about 270 pages of the 470 page book. But I am only at page 20 of this book (free culture), but eerie feeling of sameness of the discussion about the dangers, which do not have the immediacy of hunger, poverty, terrorism etc and hence do not get the attention they deserve, but will cause the greatest long range disaster. Would request you to go through "Third wave" too, time and interest permitting. Will finish "Free Culture" and again come back. N S Srikanth -- Learn From others' mistakes! Your lifetime is not enough to commit all of them yourself and learn from them! -- -- Learn From others' mistakes! Your lifetime is not enough to commit all of them yourself and learn from them!

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FLOSS Policy Support project launched (fwd)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 27 Mar '04

27 Mar '04

---------- Forwarded message ---------- [from International Institute of Infonomics ICT Weekly of March 26, 2004] FLOSS-POLS PROJECT LAUNCHED The 'Free/Libre/Open Source Software: Policy Support' project, coordinated by MERIT, was launched on March 1. FLOSS-POLS will work on three specific tracks: government policy towards open source; gender issues in open source; and the efficiency of open source as a system for collaborative problem-solving. see: http://flossproject.org/flosspols/ _______________________________________________ s-asia-it mailing list s-asia-it(a)lists.apnic.net http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/s-asia-it

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