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Re: Re: [Fsf-friends] Re:Request to RedHat
by Kanti Jadia 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 Arko Provo Mukherjee wrote : >On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 11:40, Kanti Jadia wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > The primary source of the name [GNU/]Linux is the projects >which > > use them.And that includes us. > > > > So,in order to get the importance of GNU to the users i >propose > > the following actions. > > > > 1.Urge the developers to use GNU/Linux (in > > websites/documentation/Code etc.). > > > > 2.Get involved and do a few corrections yourself. > > > > 3.If you work for a company,which uses [GNU/]Linux,get the >word to > > your marketing department. > > > > Further suggestions awaited. > > > > Can we come up with a comprehensive list. > > > > regards > > > > Kanti > >Hello, >I think that the first point is very important. We must urge >developers >to develop on the GNU/Linux platform. > Use GNU/Linux and not Linux >One more point: >Spread the FREE Software Philosophy to the people and tell people >that >GNU/Linux is not only an $ saving solution to software problems >but also >an OS that respects your freedom. >Many people don't understand that. A lot of people do understand and just ignore. These are the people who gain the benefits of free software and refuse to recognize its importance. And for those who really are unaware(growing day by day),we must come up with a concrete action. That is why i proposed a comprehensive list of actions. regards Kanti > >Regards >Arko > > > > > > Have been doing the some of the things above from quite some > > time. > > > > >Do you think any request to Red Hat to change the name of >their > > >distro > > >to Red Hat GNU/Linux will work? > > >We can try that as it is the most popular distro and the name >can > > >reach > > >many people. > > > > >Arko > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fsf-friends mailing list > > Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in > > http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends > >

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Fwd: Re: [Fsf-friends] Re:Request to RedHat
by Kanti Jadia 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Note: Forwarded message attached -- Orignal Message -- From: Arko Provo Mukherjee <arkoprovo(a)peacefulaction.org> To: Kanti Jadia <j_kanti(a)rediffmail.com> Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Re:Request to RedHat

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Re:Request to RedHat
by Kanti Jadia 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Hi all, The primary source of the name [GNU/]Linux is the projects which use them.And that includes us. So,in order to get the importance of GNU to the users i propose the following actions. 1.Urge the developers to use GNU/Linux (in websites/documentation/Code etc.). 2.Get involved and do a few corrections yourself. 3.If you work for a company,which uses [GNU/]Linux,get the word to your marketing department. Further suggestions awaited. Can we come up with a comprehensive list. regards Kanti Have been doing the some of the things above from quite some time. >Do you think any request to Red Hat to change the name of their >distro >to Red Hat GNU/Linux will work? >We can try that as it is the most popular distro and the name can >reach >many people. >Arko

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Request to RedHat
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Do you think any request to Red Hat to change the name of their distro to Red Hat GNU/Linux will work? We can try that as it is the most popular distro and the name can reach many people. Arko hi, some very critical issues being poked at in the mail above. one stating that RH is the most popular distribution, based on controversial empirical research data, i presume that it cannot be written as such. and two,the issue of branding. loathsome as it might seem to GNU/Linux community, branding and brand differentiation plays an important role in creating a market. Every company invests substantially in brand building and ensuring the brand recall. RH being a major commercial player in the game is no exception. The logo of the blazing redhat is one of the unique signatures in the market. That being the case, companies are usually not quite keen on changing and/or modifying the nature and statement of their product. This is not to say that people and companies do not change names. They do. Witness Accenture's new avataar and a host of others. But these are cash rich entities, question remains when it is imperative to keep the FLOSS momentum going, is it really necessary to nitpick ? Or in other words, on a scale of one to ten, how important do you think this advocacy is ? And how much of a 'brand dilution' will RH be keen on swallowing ? FLOSS is philosophy as much as economics. And market economics dictate that such renaming when the brand awareness curve is on the upswing is not really called for. while i agree with your viewpoint the perhaps FLOSS interests would be better served if your suggestion was incorporated, and this is also logically connected with your earlier posts - i am a bit surprised as to why you seem keen to take a stand on the list ! did you write to RH on a personal level, stating your reasons and they neither replied nor responded ? awaiting further knowledge regards sankarshan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03

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Patents in India
by Kanti Jadia 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

Hi all, The various patents(including Software Patents) can be found http://patinfo.nic.in/ A FAQ on patents is at http://patinfo.nic.in/faq.html regards Kanti

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Eben Moglen on Free Software and MS
by KG Kumar 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

Eben Moglen, professor of law at Columbia University Law School, on the end of the Microsoft Era: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/articles/issue27/lud27-free_software_matters.html

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Freedom Fonts
by Kanti Jadia 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

The free UCS scalable font collection is being maintained by Primoz Peterlin <primoz.peterlin AT biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si>. Have a look.It has the akruti fonts as well http://www.nongnu.org/freefont/ regards Kanti

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Feedback from Rourkee IIT...
by FN 01 Mar '03

01 Mar '03

To subscribe from this group, send an email to: rklug-subscribe(a)yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:31:47 +0530 (IST) From: H S Rai <hsraidce(a)iitr.ernet.in> Subject: Debian GNU/Linux installation Debian is the only truly 'free' Linux distribution, with strict software policy guidelines and a human maintainer behind every package it distributes. It is funded and run by 900 volunteers all over the world, and is well-known for its ease of maintenance and security consciousness. The Setup, however, can be overwhelming for a non-technical user, even though it is of immense help to the expert, since he can customise his system to the fullest. I myself took some time before I could install Woody successfully. The install-documentation is somewhat terse and formal. This is a step-by-step guide to have a smooth installation of Debian GNU/Linux Woody r3.0 from its original CD set. ------------------------ The aboves were found at: http://www.symonds.net/~deep/stuff/linux/woody3inst.php may be visted for detail. -- H.S.Rai http://www.grex.org/~hsrai Registered Linux User # 223684 http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=223684 : ####[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]########################### Sub : Re-initialise /etc/inittab LOST #043 To re-initialise changes made to /etc/inittab without the need to reboot, do: '#init q' Init is the last step of the kernel boot sequence. "q" option re-examines and re-initialises /etc/inittab. ####<bish(a)nde.vsnl.net.in>################################### :

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Call for volunteers
by Kanti Jadia 01 Mar '03

01 Mar '03

The FSF-India website uses CVS now(at savannah.gnu.org). Volunteers are welcome to contribute. To start with we need help in redesigning the website. regards Kanti

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The Best Battleground for Linux?
by Soundara Rajan N.S. 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

The Best Battleground for Linux? Contributed by James Maguire, www.osOpinion.com, Part of the NewsFactor Network When dealing with applications like back-end accounting, it helps to be able to mold programs to an individual enterprise. Linux, with its open source approach, lends itself to this. Restaurant chain Papa John's (Nasdaq: PZZA) is an unlikely place for the great operating system war between Windows and Linux to play out. Papa John's motto, after all, is "Better Ingredients. Better Pizza." Pretty low-tech. But with 2,900 stores across the country, Papa John's has significant IT needs. In a recent major overhaul, the company replaced its vintage electronic cash registers with terminals that use Linux to link to back-end accounting. And Papa John's is not alone. Consider Regal Cinemas, which claims to be the world's largest motion picture exhibitor, with 5,663 screens in 36 states. The last time you bought an extra large popcorn with extra butter at a Regal theatre, that sale was transmitted to the chain's accounting department through a network running the Linux OS. Both businesses recently began using Linux for the same reasons as many other companies: The open source OS is markedly cheaper than Microsoft Windows; it requires less computing power to run; and its customizability means businesses can tweak it to fit their individual needs. A Third Battleground In fact, the market for customized business applications can be thought of as the third battleground between dominant Windows and upstart Linux. The first battleground is the server market. Estimates vary as to how much of the server market is run by Linux, but 20 percent is a commonly used figure. Linux has gained success in the server market because the individuals who run it, unlike average office workers, are comfortable dealing with the obscurities of programming code. If the kernel needs to be recompiled, that's no problem for the unusual breed of human known as the IT professional. The Second Battleground (The Tough One) The second battleground on which Linux and Windows are battling for market share in the desktop market. But unlike the customized business applications market or the server market, the desktop market is a tough sell for Linux. The problem? All of those Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) applications like Word and Excel that we know and love won't operate in the Linux environment without a lot of help, if at all. Even more than the Windows OS itself, those popular programs are the source of Microsoft's dominance on the desktop. An Open Third Market But the market for customized business applications, the Papa John's of the world, doesn't lean toward Microsoft as much the desktop market does. Without anchors like the Office suite, buyers are free to choose the best option without concern for previous proprietary standards. Microsoft, of course, will not quietly concede this lucrative market. But even if the software giant can lower its prices to fight back, it faces a critical disadvantage in the customized application market: the tweak factor. When dealing with applications like back-end accounting, it really helps to be able to mold the program to the individual enterprise. Linux, with its open source approach, lends itself to this. Since Microsoft does not release its code, its product cannot be custom tweaked for individual use. In the server and desktop market, this was a strength. The company guards the secret code, giving it a competitive advantage. This doesn't work in the customized business application market. What was once a strength is now a weakness. And Linux may step in to fill the gap. _______________________________________________________________________________ Posted by N.S. Soundara Rajan, Freelance IT journalist, Columnist "Deccan Herald", Spoken English Teacher & Knowledge networker ...connecting people to people, and people to knowledge

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