Hello Sarath,
Best wishes for your examinations !! Concentrate on that now.
It is not because people don't want mp3 players or flash players with thier distro, like Ankit already told, did you take permission to use flash ? or mp3 decoder with your distro ? it is not free software and they can sue you for that (I'm not threatening you but THEY CAN). User friendlyness or convenience cannot be at the cost of freedom. Why they should go for a linux (to be precice gnu/linux) that is like Windows when already they have windowos (illegal copy -- even your flash and mp3 decoders are illegal-- ). It is not that people never tried to make it like windows, there is linspire (lindows before) the xpde desktop that is windows like. I don't think you can change the name linux to slynux without making more than 85% change in its kernel. Well it can be SL GNU/linux. When you are using GNU as your first ever OS no question arise of familiarity of applications of wallpaper or so. When students learn to use computers starte using GNU the question of being windows like is null. So the currrent IT at school is a very important step towards it.
Suppose we have made the system user friendly like windows with flash, java skype and what not propriety softwares and a whole lotta people use it and it becomes popular. What is the use ? If they get a more user friendly OS, say Mac of Apple they will surely go for it, if the only thing is user friendliness. I'm not telling that user friendliness does not matter. It does matter but freedom is more important.
FREEDOM IS IMPORTANT THAN CONVENIENCE ( Once you have freedom you think of convenience)
GNU has grown to be on the desktop[Except may be for some specific applications].
So Sarath well you go on with your ideas if youthink it is what is to be done. [What is the use when all the people use so called linux without realising the importance of freedom]
So I hope you'll with me to hack on the phoenix project and python translation. I think it will be more useful if you join INDLINUX project. [If you keep that name slynux, well no body might want to be with you :-) hey just kidding. ] Now what we need is lot of free applications. Instead of going for mp3 we should try to include ogg as far as possible [Though xmms is free software mp3 decoder is patended and to use the decoder for business applications is illegal]
Happy hacking
With love Praveen PS: Don't hesitate to mail me for anything that I can do. I'm trying hard to get your distro mirrored here. We hope to put up a debian mirror here soon Don't think I'm just criticizing you, these are some things most people think
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:31:09 +0530, Ankit Malik ankitmalik@gmail.com wrote:
oh hi
thanks for the clarifying all the hoopla around ur distro. indeed it is a good distro when taken in the context that it is by a teenager that too deprived by a cool net connection.
but i wud still advice you not to reinvent the wheel.
desktop linux has bcum way easier than even ur distro, so here is a job for you which I hope you would take up >> Instead of improving the distro you already have, get the latest version of Knoppix and then edit/morph/remaster that.
And yes beware that it might not be legal to carry flash plugins and stuff.... have u taken permission ???
that is it
best of luck
P.S. And yeah I am ready to help provided you change the distro name to Ankit's Linux !!! He He Just kidding. Rename it to something generic, that is not just related to just your name so that more ppl will help you. Or BETTER STILL JOIN THE INDLINUX TEAM. YOU WILL BE OF GR8 VALUE TO THEM !
BEST OF LUCK
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 04:29:15 -0800 (PST), Sarath Lakshman sarathlakshman@yahoo.com wrote:
Dear Friends,
I got so many appreciative and some opposive mails about My SLYNUX ( Remaster of knoppix). Among them, I got some mails from FSF people. They claimed that 'There is nothing new in SLYNUX when compared to knoppix' . Partially I also agree with the statement….But everyone should understand the reason and themes behind SLYNUX….It's target is not new markets..like MS.
I never claimed that I have made an OS. Actually, the thing behind SLYNUX is: I am very much interested in GNU/Linux. It was my first experience before 1 year I tried out Redhat 7 for the first time. I myself installed it…then I was a windows user. First of all – My attraction was captured on it's GUI. I felt it was nice. I didn't know any shell comments or other functions in Gnu/Linux that time. My only tool was mouse pointer…like windows I used it. At that time I thought that all windows program can b executed in Linux. Also thought that Fat32 FS will not work in GNU/Linux. After 2 days I tried to remove Redhat..because I disappointed abt that 'I can't use Linux for my use'. There was no mp3 support and no video player in it. So I left Linux OS. I removed the installed boot loader (GRUB) by over writing it with re-installing windows. This experience…resulted me in search of a user friendly Linux. At that time I didn't have an internet connection. So there were limitations for collecting knowledge about Linux.
One of the FSF friends reviewed about 'www.slcreations.g3z.com' (U will get this link from www.slynux.co.nr) that the content in that site is invalid and foolish. Actually that site was created by me when I was in 8th Standard…when I was a newbie in Computer field. (I was wanted to know how websites are created. So using some templates I created the website and wrote funny and foolish things in that site. Some sentences. like 'SL e- Periodic table came in to the market.) I have developed a software called E – Periodic Table…But it was freeware and never came to the market..At the time I created this html page..I didn't know what is FSF and didn't heard about it.
In my locality (Mahe; Near Tellicherry) No one used Linux and any one didn't know something about Linux or FS in my knowledge. Some of them heard about 'Linux'. That's all. Some of the computer shops had Redhat. And they thought that there is only one Linux – Redhat. Before 11 months I got Knoppix 3.1 from a man studying in engg college (In Yanam). I became much interested in knoppix and tried out. I gave copies of knoppix to my friends. They used it for 5 or 6 days and said –"What Linux? Even we can't use it friendly..No one didn't understand the program names."
I gave awareness to my friends aboutLinux….They became bored about hearing my philosophy. After getting internet connection, I came to know more about Linux and Knoppix. I decided to make a user favourable Remaster of Knoppix with a lot of features. I tried to learn shell commands….. For creating SLYNUX, I had spent most of night ( about to 3.30 A.M) for months for getting my effort to a success….In some days of a little bit success…I had jumped with glad.
" Advanced users of Linux will not understand the problems faced by common windows users who tried out Linux and disappointed….Because they have a wide possibility of getting info abt Linux ( Through LUGs, FSF community etc). But common users are left non-techy..and they will not spend the time for experimentation in Linux to learn it. I know it from experience" (especially People in Mahe). I am sure that more and more people can switch to Linux easily using SLYNUX. ( I recommend SLYNUX only for beginners). Common People can also install SLYNUX easily through some clicks…
I have now lots of ideas to make SLYNUX more and more user friendly…I have some ideas to develop a distro from scratch independly from knoppix..(using a different compression method) as someone commented that SLYNUX cannot be considered as a distro)…
I have only a 14.4 kbps internet….(phone bills..r not affordable now a days)
I have some plans to create an LUG in Mahe. Hope that FSF will help me.. I request FSF friends to continue sending opinions about 'SYNUX' or give advices to make it better.. What Changes I have to make in SLYNUX Website? (www.slynux.co.nr)
I'm now studying 10th Standard (SCERT syllabus)….After my Exams I could spend more time on Linux.
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