Dear fellow comrades,
Male Chauvinism rules this this list now. Any of us are bot going to achieve anything out of it. I am really tired of reading mails with Chauvinist attacks and counters . This is the last request to stop this FLAME not at all based on the ethos of free software.
If this continues I have to quit this space. I feel I am not the only one tired with this flames. I request all responsible members to relcaim this list . I am waiting 2 more days before saying good buy to list
Deepa Paul
+1 -- Thanks! Sameer Panchangam ---------------------------------------------------- http://friendfeed.com/spanchangam ----------------------------------------------------
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Deepa Paul |ദീപാ പോള് < deepa.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear fellow comrades,
Male Chauvinism rules this this list now. Any of us are bot going to achieve anything out of it. I am really tired of reading mails with Chauvinist attacks and counters . This is the last request to stop this FLAME not at all based on the ethos of free software.
If this continues I have to quit this space. I feel I am not the only one tired with this flames. I request all responsible members to relcaim this list . I am waiting 2 more days before saying good buy to list
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Come on I dont know who are you people but still i feel you are believers of RMS Philosophy. in that context , here are my few suggestions
It has been 25 years that RMS has struggled -- is this is what he taught us, it is the strong determination, patience and non-compromising etc etc characters has made the GNU System so nice .
This is not the way to respect him, Just for few flames ( what you consider as ) from some ( who ever you are thinking ) should not matter , the whole world was flaming against RMS -- still his determination to uphold the ideas of our Free Society has been successful to the extent that people like you should not feel like quitting.
Only request is whatever the time you are getting irritated that is time you have to hold on, then later on you can decide
Don't give such kind gifts on the occasion of 25th anniversary of GNU project to the Free software community.
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sameer Panchangam < sameer.panchangam@gmail.com> wrote:
+1
Thanks! Sameer Panchangam
http://friendfeed.com/spanchangam
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Deepa Paul |ദീപാ പോള് < deepa.paul@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear fellow comrades,
Male Chauvinism rules this this list now. Any of us are bot going to achieve anything out of it. I am really tired of reading mails with Chauvinist attacks and counters . This is the last request to stop this FLAME not at all based on the ethos of free software.
If this continues I have to quit this space. I feel I am not the only one tired with this flames. I request all responsible members to relcaim this list . I am waiting 2 more days before saying good buy to list
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hi RP,
On 20/11/2008, renuka prasad renukaprasadb@gmail.com wrote:
Come on I dont know who are you people but still i feel you are believers of RMS Philosophy. in that context , here are my few suggestions
It has been 25 years that RMS has struggled -- is this is what he taught us, it is the strong determination, patience and non-compromising etc etc characters has made the GNU System so nice .
yes indeed.
This is not the way to respect him, Just for few flames ( what you consider as ) from some ( who ever you are thinking ) should not matter , the whole world was flaming against RMS -- still his determination to uphold the ideas of our Free Society has been successful to the extent that people like you should not feel like quitting.
True I too feel the same. And I believe flames are the part of any mailing list and wise people generally stay away from those threads except at times when they feel like adding a comment or two wich would help cool it down, So All freedom fighters and dear hackers take it easy. Afterall who ever is a "real " freedom fighter will fight for the cause and will only breeth a sigh of releaf after liberating technology users from proprietory "hukum shahi " (dectatorship).
Only request is whatever the time you are getting irritated that is time you have to hold on, then later on you can decide
I won't advice to stay or quit the list. That is individual decision but at least don't quit as a result of some small flame on a post resolution of an issue.
Don't give such kind gifts on the occasion of 25th anniversary of GNU project to the Free software community.
yes and specially when RMS is visiting India. Let's become ready to welcome him and be our best. happy hacking. KK
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Deepa Paul |ദീപാ പോള് deepa.paul@gmail.com wrote:
Dear fellow comrades,
Male Chauvinism rules this this list now. Any of us are bot going to achieve anything out of it. I am really tired of reading mails with Chauvinist attacks and counters . This is the last request to stop this FLAME not at all based on the ethos of free software.
Flame is there, Chauvinism is also there. But "Male Chauvinism"??? I remember that you had also contributed to this FLAME!
If this continues I have to quit this space. I feel I am not the only one tired with this flames. I request all responsible members to relcaim this list . I am waiting 2 more days before saying good buy to list
I remember previous instances of Good Bye's from others here, just that they were back with a bang :-)
Like Pramode C.E replied in his blog:
"Relax, dear Philip…. don't let the sound and the fury on the mailing lists and blogs bewilder you … take my word - your worries are unfounded. Most of the time, the Free Software community is tackling issues which are of vital importance to the emerging information society - and making good progress — come to the next conference on Free Software in Tvm (in Dec) and you will understand how."
http://pramode.net/2008/11/17/unforgettable-national-conference-on-free-soft...
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On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:56 PM, justin joseph justinjoseph007@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Deepa Paul |ദീപാ പോള് deepa.paul@gmail.com wrote:
Dear fellow comrades,
Male Chauvinism rules this this list now. Any of us are bot going to achieve anything out of it. I am really tired of reading mails with Chauvinist attacks and counters . This is the last request to stop this FLAME not at all based on the ethos of free software.
Flame is there, Chauvinism is also there. But "Male Chauvinism"??? I remember that you had also contributed to this FLAME!
Male Chauvinism is also there. I admit I also put my 10 cents to that FLAME to stop it.
If this continues I have to quit this space. I feel I am not the only one tired with this flames. I request all responsible members to relcaim this list . I am waiting 2 more days before saying good bye to list
I remember previous instances of Good Bye's from others here, just that they were back with a bang :-)
So what is your point here? You want everyone to quit this list? Welcome to those great minds, who returned for creating fruitful discussions
Like Pramode C.E replied in his blog:
"Relax, dear Philip…. don't let the sound and the fury on the mailing lists and blogs bewilder you … take my word - your worries are unfounded. Most of the time, the Free Software community is tackling issues which are of vital importance to the emerging information society - and making good progress — come to the next conference on Free Software in Tvm (in Dec) and you will understand how."
http://pramode.net/2008/11/17/unforgettable-national-conference-on-free-soft...
Well said. Joining with the spirit of above quote.
Deepa Paul IIIT Hyderabad
Deepa Paul deepa.paul@gmail.com wrote:
Male Chauvinism is also there. I admit I also put my 10 cents to that FLAME to stop it.
This is interesting. Male chauvinism how?
I could see some folk very passionately arguing for what they strongly believe in, and that there are different versions of the same event. It's like the story at Rashomon gate -- people see what they want to see. Perhaps you were looking for male chauvinism. No offence meant, it's just that we're all not really wired for strong objectivity and rational thinking all the time [1].
Flame wars are a fact of these lists, where people with very strong and sometimes differing convictions come together. I think it makes very uninteresting and generally useless conversation when everyone agrees with everyone. Get on with it. The water has to eventually clear... only to muddle later. :-)
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Sajith T S sajith@gmail.com wrote:
Deepa Paul deepa.paul@gmail.com wrote:
Male Chauvinism is also there. I admit I also put my 10 cents to that FLAME to stop it.
This is interesting. Male chauvinism how?
I could see some folk very passionately arguing for what they strongly believe in, and that there are different versions of the same event. It's like the story at Rashomon gate -- people see what they want to see. Perhaps you were looking for male chauvinism. No offense meant, it's just that we're all not really wired for strong objectivity and rational thinking all the time [1].
hehe True. i liked it . This is becoming a Rashomon story through the narrations and articulations. Anyway lets leave Male chauvinism from this thread. :-)
Flame wars are a fact of these lists, where people with very strong and sometimes differing convictions come together. I think it makes very uninteresting and generally useless conversation when everyone agrees with everyone. Get on with it. The water has to eventually clear... only to muddle later. :-)
Well said
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
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On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:56 PM, justin joseph justinjoseph007@gmail.comwrote:
I remember previous instances of Good Bye's from others here, just that they were back with a bang :-)
Hmmm. I will take you at TVM conference - "we" will wearing black badges - 0077777777 - with cameras on - focussed - AMBADA !!! SEE YOU AGAIN ... BYE ... CK Raju
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