Hi gopal/arun,
I have seen your work on dotgnu project. Its good work. It feels great to know that we all are thinking ahead of time. I am sure some MS people who keep a tab on our mails are wondering what we are upto.
I support porting of .NET (C#) on linux but remember, we get less mileage on porting it to linux. I mean, .NET web services can be accessed from Linux anyways, due to XML-RPC n SOAP standards. Getting C# clients running on linux should be made integral part of such an endeavor but should not take a centerstage. The edge lies in integrating the linux environment such that it provides all the .NET funtionality (not .NET) in linux. We have a beautiful langauage in Java at our hands. If we can get togather to promote java as an alternative (matching or superseding .NET), infact C and C++ are good enough with a strong developer base.
The key to beating .NET seems to be how well we can integrate the services available on linux to provide an equivalent if not more functionality. If we can create an integrated environment that is easier to use than .NET .. i believe we are on.
Arun/Gopal its great work that you guyz are doing. Guyz like you really make it all worthwhile. Please let me know on who is managing the project and whether you guyz are on for adding some new concepts into the project ?
Free software for the brave GNU World.
With regards to all, Tarun Gaur
From: Gopal V gopalv82@symonds.net To: Tarun Gaur gaur_tarun@hotmail.com CC: Fsf-India Mailing List fsf-india@mm.gnu.org.in Subject: Gnu and the dot (was: (no subject)) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:19:39 +0530
If memory serves me right, Tarun Gaur wrote:
The project i am working on is not just a replacement/porting of .net on linux. It is much more than that. It intends to provide a highly
scalable
web services environment of which C# and other microsoft technologies
are a
small part. Some languages that are taken care of by our environment are
:
C++, C, COBOL, Java, C# and some things that we are keeping under wraps
till
it completes. We will be releasing the sofware under GNU LGPL.
Even though I don't understand why you'd need to keep it under wraps ... I do think DotGNU has a lot in common with what you suggest ... We started off to provide a Microsoft compatible webservice framework .. later Rhys Weatherly came in with Portable.Net the C# compiler and runtime , and I jumped in (sort of pushed in by Arun) ...
I'm working on the codegen, SemanticAnalysis and flow analysis of the compiler .. And I have done my bit on the runtime engine , and am currently the lead developer of the pnetlib standard libraries ....
We are creating a Global Naming and security architecture that can boast some interesting unique features. We have options of using triple DES /
IDEA
as cryptosystems for the environment. And the environment makes it
amazingly
easy to Write distributed code.
Hmm... our ideas of distributed execution have been put into the pipeline and Chris Smith has promised a release by next year Mid-Jan ... It will use a CIL sandboxed engine for execution , and other engines like Parrot are being kept open for inclusion...
Now, Please tell me on how can i contribute in your endeavor.
http://dotgnu.org/ or http://dotgnu.info/ or ${gnu_mirror}/gnu/dotgnu-pnet/
Anyways, Arun and Gopal, please let me know how can i contribute. I
would
love to and i have got a good following of a handfull of good
programmers
who will be willing to pitch in too.
Visit http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/dotgnu-pnet/ for the C# side of things. Get the CVS , hack in a few features ... submit a patch ... and all that..
We're on a stabilizing run for the 0.5.0 release , so we're keeping hands off the CVS repository and testing the patches hard ..
The hackers on developers@dotgnu.org lists will be more helpful for further queries ..
Gopal
The difference between insanity and genius is measured by success
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If memory serves me right, Tarun Gaur wrote:
centerstage. The edge lies in integrating the linux environment such that it provides all the .NET funtionality (not .NET) in linux. We have a beautiful langauage in Java at our hands. If we can get togather to promote java as an alternative (matching or superseding .NET), infact C and C++ are good enough with a strong developer base.
I don't like Java for 2 reasons :-
1) Sun is not the saviour of Free Software, and has never been... 2) Java is not standardized in any form , except under 100% SUN control
Having said all that , I'm working on the Java frontend of cscc as my graduate project ... The parser is almost complete right now ...
it all worthwhile. Please let me know on who is managing the project and whether you guyz are on for adding some new concepts into the project ?
Please contact the whole team at developers@dotgnu.org mailing lists ... This thread is getting too technical for this list anyway.. We can continue this discussion there , please ...
Gopal