Wishing you a happy new year,
thank for the info on calpp
will try to read about it
regards sylvester
Gedit has a spellcheck (I think recently added). Strangely, it does not recognise the word Stallman!
V. Sasi Kumar said on Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 09:38:36AM +0530,:
Gedit has a spellcheck (I think recently added). Strangely, it does not recognise the word Stallman!
But then, 'Sasi' or 'Kumar' too are not recognised!!!!
An, surprise!!! surprise!!! 'Mahesh', 'Pai', and 'paivakil' *are*(1)
If you think this a bug, please report it to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gedit
Seriously, IMHO, it is not really a bug with gedit. Gedit uses an external plugin written by somebodyelse to do spell check, and the plug in relies on a dictionary created by yet somebody else. So, may be, you should change the dictionary!!!
(1) I added these words to my private dictionary.
"V. Sasi Kumar" vsasi@vsnl.com writes:
Gedit has a spellcheck (I think recently added). Strangely, it does not recognise the word Stallman!
But then 'Stallman' is a proper noun. It is not a word that you will find in a dictionary. Hence no spell checker will recognize it. Its not strange.
Rgds, anna
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 16:24, Annamalai Gurusami wrote:
"V. Sasi Kumar" vsasi@vsnl.com writes:
Gedit has a spellcheck (I think recently added). Strangely, it does not recognise the word Stallman!
But then 'Stallman' is a proper noun. It is not a word that you will find in a dictionary. Hence no spell checker will recognize it. Its not strange.
Most dictionaries recognise a number of proper nouns. In this case, for instance, it does recognise Richard.
"V. Sasi Kumar" vsasi@vsnl.com writes:
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 16:24, Annamalai Gurusami wrote:
But then 'Stallman' is a proper noun. It is not a word that you will find in a dictionary. Hence no spell checker will recognize it. Its not strange.
Most dictionaries recognise a number of proper nouns. In this case, for instance, it does recognise Richard.
I probably should have been more specific in what I meant by the word 'dictionary'. I was talking about dictionaries like Oxford, Webster, etc. I have never seen names in such dictionaries (the printed ones.)
Rgds, anna
The Council of Scientific and Industrial Research, an autonomous organisation under the Govt. of India, is a leading agency of the GoI involved in scientific and industrial research, and publication of scientific material. They run several journals related to different branches of science and technology. I found that they ask for manuscript in MS Word format. No other format is acceptable to them, including text, pdf, TeX, and, interestingly, RTF. I wrote a letter to them pointing out that they were forcing people to buy software that they may not need otherwise (even people who are using proprietary software may have other word processors like Lotus WordPro). There was no response from their side. I was forced to save in Word format from Open Office (I had originally prepared it in LaTeX), check for consistency in another computer having Word and send the file. Since this happened after a prolonged process of screening and final acceptance after almost one year after I had submitted it, I did not want to pull out. How can we bring some pressure on CSIR to move to Free Software?
"V. Sasi Kumar" vsasi@vsnl.com writes:
branches of science and technology. I found that they ask for manuscript in MS Word format. No other format is acceptable to them, including
Likewise, I always find that employment agencies (or job consultants, if you prefer that), often ask CV (or resume) in MS Word format. I send them a note stating that I don't have MS Word software, but that I am sending in RTF format, which can be viewed in MS Word. To my surprise, most of them reject such resumes.
Thats a sad reality. I don't know why such a restriction is being imposed. I cannot seem to figure it out.
Rgds, anna
Annamalai Gurusami said on Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:01:50PM +0530,:
send them a note stating that I don't have MS Word software, but that I am sending in RTF format, which can be viewed in MS Word. To my surprise, most of them reject such resumes.
I once received a spam resume in .doc format. I opened it in OO.o and antiword. Wonder of wonders - antiword showed much more info, which was obvously embarassing to the sender duly marked as deleted. Probably, recruiters know that, and want to find out what you deleted from your resume.
But then, you could simply have renamed the file to .doc. Think this trick will work. A better alternative is not to respond to such postings. Especially if the call is for a free software related job!!!
From: Annamalai Gurusami annamalai.gurusami@email.masconit.com Date: 06 Jan 2004 19:01:50 +0530
Likewise, I always find that employment agencies (or job consultants, if you prefer that), often ask CV (or resume) in MS Word format. I
I've been a victim of that too. I used a PDF and a `plain text' and was never called even for the screening test. eh., but i just thought to myself., ah.. they lost me.. heh.
Thats a sad reality. I don't know why such a restriction is being imposed. I cannot seem to figure it out.
I guess they never bothered to think about it before advertising in the papers. I guess they dont care either. They just assume., that anyone and everyone should have a M$Office accessible.
Cheers, Joe
-- "Software is like sex; Its better when it is free" -- Linus Torvalds visit : http://www.joesteeve.tk/
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:01:50PM +0530, Annamalai Gurusami wrote:
Thats a sad reality. I don't know why such a restriction is being imposed. I cannot seem to figure it out.
IAC, Many companies use automated software to read and sort the resumes in word document. Thats why they insist a job seeker to send the resume in word format.
This may be possible using FS tools also.
Regards
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 09:35, Dileep M. Kumar wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:01:50PM +0530, Annamalai Gurusami wrote:
Thats a sad reality. I don't know why such a restriction is being imposed. I cannot seem to figure it out.
IAC, Many companies use automated software to read and sort the resumes in word document. Thats why they insist a job seeker to send the resume in word format.
We cannot force private companies not to specify proprietary formats for such purposes. But our government agencies should not do that. They are supposed to have some kind of social commitment, accountability and transparency. The scientific community in India, in general, appears to have ceased to be concerned with such matters (sorry for having to put the community of which I myself am part in the docks). Can we think of some strategy to bring pressure on CSIR to change?
V. Sasi Kumar posts:
Can we think of some strategy to bring pressure on CSIR to change?
There is no short-cut here, other than bringing the change yourselves.
As you are a part of that community of scientists, you should develop a statergy amongst like-minded guys within your institution the CESS and do it. Firstly you should talk about it, how it is benefitting you and demo it to your colleagues. Help them learn and slowly spread it within the CESS, slowly spread it to the next CSIR `gaveshna kendram'near you and go on.....
Raghavendra Bhat wrote:
V. Sasi Kumar posts:
Can we think of some strategy to bring pressure on CSIR to change?
There is no short-cut here, other than bringing the change yourselves.
As you are a part of that community of scientists, you should develop a statergy amongst like-minded guys within your institution the CESS and do it. Firstly you should talk about it, how it is benefitting you and demo it to your colleagues. Help them learn and slowly spread it within the CESS, slowly spread it to the next CSIR `gaveshna kendram'near you and go on.....
Indeed we have already made a humble begining.
"Dileep M. Kumar" dileep@gmx.net writes:
IAC, Many companies use automated software to read and sort the resumes in word document. Thats why they insist a job seeker to send the resume in word format.
[I don't know what IAC is]
I don't think this is even remotely possible. Unless there is a specific format in the document (the format of the information), there is no way to automatically extract any information from all the different kinds of resumes that comes in. Look at your resume, and then look at your friends resume, and see if there is _any_ possibility of extracting information from both of them in a uniform manner.
Thats why the HR consortium is working on an XML based resume format.
Rgds, anna
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 17:48, V. Sasi Kumar wrote:
How can we bring some pressure on CSIR to move to Free Software?
May be President Abdul Kalam who is convinced of our movement and having a good influence on CSIR authorities can intervene in this matter. Why don't we prepare and submit a mass petition to President and send its copy to CSIR authorities and related officers,
Regards,
Anil Appropriate Technology Promotion Society (ATPS)
eiidp wrote:
How can we bring some pressure on CSIR to move to Free Software?
May be President Abdul Kalam who is convinced of our movement and having a good influence on CSIR authorities can intervene in this matter. Why don't we prepare and submit a mass petition to President and send its copy to CSIR authorities and related officers
Please visit: http://presidentofindia.nic.in/ NIC runs our President's site on a Microsoft server. NIC uses Apache on some of its servers, and I am sure it could use free software to run the servers that serve our President, knowing well about his open views on the software that is suitable for our country. We also need to request NIC to use free software and also acknowledge its use when used in its sites.
Reg: CSIR http://www.csir.res.in http://www.csir.res.in/infomain.cfm http://www.csir.res.in/csirsite/alldiam/wdiamond.htm
The CSIR is doing valuable serious research, but their work could shine better and reach a wider audience through free software. At infomain.cfm I found that CSIR has authored several software programs. What platforms are they written for? Would it not be better if such scientific software is released to the public as free software? Why are the web designers at CSIR using such heavy graphics and amatuer gimmics that make it difficult to navigate the site? I would expect a rich content at such a site, and the use of heavy graphics that do not present information in a scientific way are inappropriate for a body like CSIR. It is important that we prepare a detailed memorandum and send it to all concerned for action. We will need to send memorandums to the PM also, because he is the President of CSIR.
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 22:44, Ramanraj K wrote:
The CSIR is doing valuable serious research, but their work could shine better and reach a wider audience through free software. At infomain.cfm I found that CSIR has authored several software programs. What platforms are they written for? Would it not be better if such scientific software is released to the public as free software? Why are the web designers at CSIR using such heavy graphics and amatuer gimmics that make it difficult to navigate the site? I would expect a rich content at such a site, and the use of heavy graphics that do not present information in a scientific way are inappropriate for a body like CSIR. It is important that we prepare a detailed memorandum and send it to all concerned for action. We will need to send memorandums to the PM also, because he is the President of CSIR.
I think these are very valid points, although there may be a doubt about whether this is the right place to discuss issues like design of website.
However, it may not be inappropriate to send a memorandum to the CSIR, the Prime Minister and the President on these issues, especially on the software developed or used by CSIR. Perhaps we could include a couple of lines on the design of the website also (in which case there need not be another memorandum as mentioned in my earlier mail). Would Ramanraj volunteer to draft such a memorandum?
Regards
V. Sasi Kumar wrote:
Would Ramanraj volunteer to draft such a memorandum [to CSIR]?
Sure. We could collect points and prepare a memorandum. This is definitely a step towards promoting use of free software in India, but this cannot be treated as an official memorandum of FSF-India, unless the FSF Board decides otherwise.
It may be better to discuss this at Fsf-discuss and those interested could subscribe to the mailing list at http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-discuss . The obvious reason for this is that the postings in this regard while putting together the memorandum to CSIR may be long.
Please continue this thread, if it relates to points to be included in the the memorandum to CSIR, by posting to fsf-discuss@mm.gnu.org.in
Regards, Ramanraj.
On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 19:15, eiidp wrote:
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 17:48, V. Sasi Kumar wrote:
How can we bring some pressure on CSIR to move to Free Software?
May be President Abdul Kalam who is convinced of our movement and having a good influence on CSIR authorities can intervene in this matter. Why don't we prepare and submit a mass petition to President and send its copy to CSIR authorities and related officers,
This may not be a bad idea. I can get some signatures from my institute, and perhaps a few from other institues also. If there is agreement on this among the list membes, I can initiate a document.
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