30 Nov
2008
30 Nov
'08
4:57 p.m.
dear friends
local chapters
are you saying that FSF-I should run like its run in Europe, Americas? that
means we are trying to force solutions meant for other countries to that of
ours! in order to have more people (in general terms we call "mass base")
FSF-I must have local chapters. I mean considering your own views Just see
the number of population in indian states they are as equal in population to
that in each country in europe, this clearly shows the importance of having
local chapters.
On an average I think people sleep for 6 hours else if a person sleeps for
months and years together, wake up a fine morning find themselves in losing
there control over the foundation, obviously it makes them irritated,
uncomfortable and the consequence is FAQ's in gnu.org. You people didn't
even bother inform organisations that are mentioned in the FAQ's.
board of directors
When is the so called Board of Directors going to so called NOMINATE there
new Board?
most of the current board of directors are the same onces who are there
since its inception which needs a change. (well power and control over FSF-I
need to change)
for everything that is old has to go and something new will always come into
place and this transition dosn't happen smoothly.
Well as the mails start poring in and that board of directors feel that they
are baring the peoples quest for clarity, they are actually undermining the
larger interest of the people. And to say "when you have a responsibility
you don't bare things or say "patiently replying", rather you need to
understand the pulse of the people".
How long can you guys go on dictating terms like this?
who can speak on behalf of fsf india?
ha thats such a big joke.
first you say that what ever the fsf-i board members say becomes the stand
of fsf-i and then you say that fsf-i board will discuss it first and then
say that "ITS THE BOARDS DECISSION". Well I need some more clarity the mails
that arun, sasi and nagarjuna have mailed to this mailing list, are they the
official stand and official statements of FSF-I? or are they just some
personal views?
Why do you guys make the rules and then break them? (by going on your own
words "WE THE *BOARD OF DIRECTORS FSF INDIA* have the only right to dictate)
i haven't seen any of you guys mention weather the statement that you are
making is an official stand of fsf-i or its just personal views.
other than the mention of "For instance, this FAQ is a statement from the
Board." in the page that is on the gnu.org.in website there is no mention of
it any were else.
For instance
http://www.google.com/search?q=satement+from+the+board+inurl%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2…
when people at the top look bellow there feet they find lilliputs. When
these lilliputs come face to face they suddenly become big, this is called
as mass base and this mass base has to be organised in a democratic way.
I am proud to be in a democratic country were i can express my views freely.
I want that freedom back to the very organisation which i believed for and
trusted for so many years has motivated and kept me free from escapism,
opportunism.
with love for freedom
ajay kumar
30 Nov
30 Nov
5:02 p.m.
New subject: Statement of FSF India board on recent incidents
dear friends a small correction
On an average I think people sleep for 6 hours else if a person sleeps for
months and years together, wake up a fine morning find themselves in losing
there control over the foundation, obviously it makes them irritated,
uncomfortable and the consequence is FAQ's in gnu.org. You people didn't
even bother inform organisations that are mentioned in the FAQ's.
in the above statement its gnu.org.in and gnu.org.
with love for freedom
ajay kumar
5:17 p.m.
New subject: Statement of FSF India board on recent incidents
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:57 PM, ajay kumar <freeajju(a)gmail.com> wrote:
dear friends
with love for freedom
ajay kumar
Dear Ajay,
Your stupidity might be a gift from God. But that is not a good enough
reason to misuse it and display it in public forums.
--
Sandeep
7:17 p.m.
New subject: Statement of FSF India board on recent incidents
hi sandeep
The issue is not about being stupid but about knowing certain points.
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM, sandeep sr <sandeep.sr78(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:57 PM, ajay kumar
<freeajju(a)gmail.com> wrote:
dear friends
with love for freedom
ajay kumar
Dear Ajay,
Your stupidity might be a gift from God. But that is not a good enough
reason to misuse it and display it in public forums.
--
Sandeep
5:56 p.m.
New subject: Statement of FSF India board on recent incidents
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:27 PM, ajay kumar <freeajju(a)gmail.com> wrote:
dear friends
local chapters
are you saying that FSF-I should run like its run in Europe, Americas? that
means we are trying to force solutions meant for other countries to that of
ours! in order to have more people (in general terms we call "mass base")
FSF-I must have local chapters. I mean considering your own views Just see
the number of population in indian states they are as equal in population to
that in each country in europe, this clearly shows the importance of having
local chapters.
FSFE did not appear without the user groups. We do not even have user
gruops, why talk of chapters. When we have more people, and
activities increase we can all decide to form a chapter. If such a
need arises, we can amend our decisions.
board of directors
When is the so called Board of Directors going to so called NOMINATE there
new Board?
most of the current board of directors are the same onces who are there
since its inception which needs a change. (well power and control over FSF-I
need to change)
From what you wrote above, it is very clear that you do
not even know
the facts.
Nagarjuna
7:13 p.m.
New subject: Statement of FSF India board on recent incidents
dear friends
Q: Are the below replies officially from FSF-I or are they nagarjuna's own
opinions?
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Nagarjuna G. <nagarjun(a)gnowledge.org>wrote;wrote:
I want to specifically mentions my about question here
Q: Are the below replies officially from FSF-I or are they nagarjuna's own
opinions?
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:27 PM, ajay kumar
<freeajju(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I thought you would reply with some links to the lists or user groups in
europe and that in india so that we could have had a comparision. alas you
didn't.
Its ok i will do it for you.
Well this list of user groups and communities that i am listing out may give
an insite into the lenth and breadth of the free software and linux user
groups in india. I do admit that free software dosn't encorage listing lug's
but as FSF-I i think we can change them to glug's or free software groups
this list also includes irc channels. can we consider irc's as groups?
http://wikiwikiweb.de/LugsList (119 groups roughly)
[thanks FN for listing the groups]
http://www.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_G…
Well this list also consists of groups that are there in asia, africa and
latin america too but that section is hardly 25% of the wiki page.
These are the lists of groups that include lugs, glugs, fsugs in europe.
http://www.linuxlinks.com/UserGroups/Europe/United_Kingdom/ (90 groups
roughly)
http://www.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/User_G…
http://www.on-the-web.ch/linux/lug.html
Well the links that i took may or may not be authentic. But that dosn't stop
us from assuming the wide spread of free software.
I don't think the number of activists in the groups of europe have
outnumbered than that of indian groups.
to get things more clear.
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-user-groups.html
How many groups and activists should be there in order to form a chapter?
dear friends
local chapters
are you saying that FSF-I should run like its run in Europe, Americas?
that
means we are trying to force solutions meant for
other countries to that
of
ours! in order to have more people (in general
terms we call "mass base")
FSF-I must have local chapters. I mean considering your own views Just
see
the number of population in indian states they
are as equal in population
to
that in each country in europe, this clearly
shows the importance of
having
local chapters.
FSFE did not appear without the user groups. We do not even have user
gruops, why talk of chapters. When we have more people, and
activities increase we can all decide to form a chapter. If such a
need arises, we can amend our decisions.
board of directors
When is the so called Board of Directors going to so called NOMINATE
there
new Board?
most of the current board of directors are the same onces who are there
since its inception which needs a change. (well power and control over
FSF-I
need to change)
From what you wrote above, it is very clear that you do not even know
the facts.
Nagarjuna
6:43 p.m.
New subject: Statement of FSF India board on recent incidents
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 22:27 +0530, ajay kumar wrote:
local chapters
are you saying that FSF-I should run like its run in Europe, Americas?
No. We are saying that FSFI should not run as in Europe, for example.
FSF Europe has a chapter in each country because the situation in each
country is different and that cannot be tackled by a single body. So
they have chapters in the member countries. India is a single country
and FSFI works closely with FSUGs etc. which serves the purpose of local
chapters.
that means we are trying to force solutions meant for
other countries
to that of ours! in order to have more people (in general terms we
call "mass base") FSF-I must have local chapters. I mean considering
your own views Just see the number of population in indian states they
are as equal in population to that in each country in europe, this
clearly shows the importance of having local chapters.
We don't distribute chapters (or FFSUGs, for that matter) based on
population. It depends on the extent of local initiative and interest.
People have been talking about "the importance of local chapters", but
no one seems to be giving any logical argument to support it. Why don't
you try, Ajay Kumar?
On an average I think people sleep for 6 hours else if
a person sleeps
for months and years together, wake up a fine morning find themselves
in losing there control over the foundation, obviously it makes them
irritated, uncomfortable and the consequence is FAQ's in gnu.org.
I am happy to learn that FAQ's are written by people who sleep for
months and years. Maybe you know all that because you too have written
FAQs. Oh, I forgot. People write FAQs when they are irritated and
uncomfortable. Are you sure that otherwise people cannot write FAQs?
You people didn't even bother inform organisations
that are mentioned
in the FAQ's.
What is it that we did not bother to inform these organisations? Which
are the organisations?
board of directors
When is the so called Board of Directors going to so called NOMINATE
there new Board?
Of course, that will be decided by the so called Board. It seems so
called Ajay Kumar is becoming irritated and uncomfortable. Hope you will
write a so called FAQ soon.
most of the current board of directors are the same
onces who are
there since its inception which needs a change.
Sure. You are free to have your opinion.
(well power and control over FSF-I need to change)
I see. So you have been looking for some power and control over FSFI?
Here is another cat that has jumped out of the bag!
for everything that is old has to go and something new
will always
come into place and this transition dosn't happen smoothly.
My! My! What erudition! So let us have a revolution. Call the troops!
Send all the bourgeoisie to Siberia.
Well as the mails start poring in and that board of
directors feel
that they are baring the peoples quest for clarity, they are actually
undermining the larger interest of the people. And to say "when you
have a responsibility you don't bare things or say "patiently
replying", rather you need to understand the pulse of the people".
Right Sir! We are going on a campaign to determine the pulse of the
people. Do we take doctors with us?
How long can you guys go on dictating terms like this?
mmmm. Good question. Personally, I am willing to continue for another
five years or so. Could even be more. I don't know about the others.
who can speak on behalf of fsf india?
ha thats such a big joke.
You mean, speaking on behalf of FSF India?
first you say that what ever the fsf-i board members
say becomes the
stand of fsf-i and then you say that fsf-i board will discuss it first
and then say that "ITS THE BOARDS DECISSION". Well I need some more
clarity the mails that arun, sasi and nagarjuna have mailed to this
mailing list, are they the official stand and official statements of
FSF-I? or are they just some personal views?
Why do you guys make the rules and then break them? (by going on your
own words "WE THE *BOARD OF DIRECTORS FSF INDIA* have the only right
to dictate) i haven't seen any of you guys mention weather the
statement that you are making is an official stand of fsf-i or its
just personal views.
Please do remember that you are making serious allegations in the mail
that you are mailing to this mailing list and that you could be open to
litigation. Not that I am going to sue you. I am really enjoying the
mail. Haven't read such a hilarious mail for quite some time.
other than the mention of "For instance, this FAQ
is a statement from
the Board." in the page that is on the gnu.org.in website there is no
mention of it any were else.
For instance
http://www.google.com/search?q=satement+from+the+board+inurl%3Ahttp%3A
%2F%2Fmm.gnu.org.in%2Fpipermail%2Ffsf-friends%
2F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a
when people at the top look bellow there feet they find lilliputs.
When these lilliputs come face to face they suddenly become big, this
is called as mass base and this mass base has to be organised in a
democratic way.
I am proud to be in a democratic country were i can express my views
freely. I want that freedom back to the very organisation which i
believed for and trusted for so many years has motivated and kept me
free from escapism, opportunism.
Oh, I never thought that FSF India has such achievements to its credit!
Really wonderful, I should say! Kept you free from escapism and
opportunism, you say? Thank you for sharing that with us.
Best
--
V. Sasi Kumar
Free Software Foundation of India
http://swatantryam.blogspot.com
8:03 p.m.
New subject: Statement of FSF India board on recent incidents
dear friends and sasi
Well I may be a bit strong on my points, what i a trying to ask is that will
the Free Software ideology be promoted in this same manner as it used to be
when first conference of fsfs happend, when sessions in tifr, parts of
kerala and other places or will it change?
Q: Are the below replies officially from FSF-I or are they sasi's own
opinions?
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:13 AM, V. Sasi Kumar <sasi.fsf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Well i think i have even answered this query too in nagarjuna's mails and
that is my own personal opinion. I also gave logical argument to support my
views with some facts in the form of links.
sorry but your reply didn't answer my comment. between sorry for the typo in
gnu.org it must be gnu.org.in.
Well i think being a board member and one the person's who has drafted the
FAQ's you should know the organisations. didn't you? well if you want me to
list i will do that for you.
Well i have no intention or idea of writing FAQ's but i am sure that if i do
a mistake i will surly and promptly apologies for the mistake not only that
i will not REPEAT the mistake and do not sideline a movement. Well i am not
write a FAQ but i will surly write a blog.
Well that is basics of science, I don't know were did bourgeoisie and
siberia came from.
You are a scientist and i assume you understand basics of science.
Well again being an well read and respected person responding in a silly
way.
not doctors but activists. How many activists dos FSF-I has? do you have a
rough count?
The search gives me these links and sorry not taking permission from FSF-I
to use the content from its gnu.org.in's website.
http://www.gnu.org.in/search?SearchableText=activists
The closest that i can get is this link. which has a mention of ONE full
time member from the website
from the website:
"Currently FSF India has an office in Thiruvananthapuram with only one full
time employee"
http://www.gnu.org.in/associate-fellowship-of-fsf-india/?searchterm=activis…
and a small update about the page. The hyper link "Why we exist" dosn't
exist.
http://www.gnu.org.in/purpose
May be it is getting updated. or may be it dosn't exist at all.
That's nice and at last i see a personal oppinion.
no
then why don't you answer the question when you enjoy reading it?
Well i still see that answerable people here are becoming kid's as the
conversation is advacing.
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 22:27 +0530, ajay kumar wrote:
I think i replied that in nagarjuna's mail.
local chapters
are you saying that FSF-I should run like its run in Europe, Americas?
No. We are saying that FSFI should not run as in Europe, for example.
FSF Europe has a chapter in each country because the situation in each
country is different and that cannot be tackled by a single body. So
they have chapters in the member countries. India is a single country
and FSFI works closely with FSUGs etc. which serves the purpose of local
chapters.
that means we are trying to force solutions
meant for other countries
to that of ours! in order to have more people (in general terms we
call "mass base") FSF-I must have local chapters. I mean considering
your own views Just see the number of population in indian states they
are as equal in population to that in each country in europe, this
clearly shows the importance of having local chapters.
We don't distribute chapters (or FFSUGs, for that matter) based on
population. It depends on the extent of local initiative and interest.
People have been talking about "the importance of local chapters", but
no one seems to be giving any logical argument to support it. Why don't
you try, Ajay Kumar? On an average I think people sleep for 6 hours
else if a person sleeps
for months and years together, wake up a fine morning find themselves
in losing there control over the foundation, obviously it makes them
irritated, uncomfortable and the consequence is FAQ's in gnu.org.
I am happy to learn that FAQ's are written by people who sleep for
months and years. Maybe you know all that because you too have written
FAQs. Oh, I forgot. People write FAQs when they are irritated and
uncomfortable. Are you sure that otherwise people cannot write FAQs? You people didn't even bother inform
organisations that are mentioned
in the FAQ's.
What is it that we did not bother to inform these organisations? Which
are the organisations? board of directors
When is the so called Board of Directors going to so called NOMINATE
there new Board?
Of course, that will be decided by the so called Board. It seems so
called Ajay Kumar is becoming irritated and uncomfortable. Hope you will
write a so called FAQ soon. most of the current board of directors are the
same onces who are
there since its inception which needs a change.
Sure. You are free to have your opinion. (well power and control over FSF-I need to
change)
I see. So you have been looking for some power and control over FSFI?
Here is another cat that has jumped out of the bag!
for everything that is old has to go and
something new will always
come into place and this transition dosn't happen smoothly.
My! My! What erudition! So let us have a revolution. Call the troops!
Send all the bourgeoisie to Siberia. Well as the mails start poring in and that board
of directors feel
that they are baring the peoples quest for clarity, they are actually
undermining the larger interest of the people. And to say "when you
have a responsibility you don't bare things or say "patiently
replying", rather you need to understand the pulse of the people".
Right Sir! We are going on a campaign to determine the pulse of the
people. Do we take doctors with us? How long can you guys go on dictating terms like
this?
mmmm. Good question. Personally, I am willing to continue for another
five years or so. Could even be more. I don't know about the others. who can speak on behalf of fsf india?
ha thats such a big joke.
You mean, speaking on behalf of FSF India? first you say that what ever the fsf-i board
members say becomes the
stand of fsf-i and then you say that fsf-i board will discuss it first
and then say that "ITS THE BOARDS DECISSION". Well I need some more
clarity the mails that arun, sasi and nagarjuna have mailed to this
mailing list, are they the official stand and official statements of
FSF-I? or are they just some personal views?
Why do you guys make the rules and then break them? (by going on your
own words "WE THE *BOARD OF DIRECTORS FSF INDIA* have the only right
to dictate) i haven't seen any of you guys mention weather the
statement that you are making is an official stand of fsf-i or its
just personal views.
Please do remember that you are making serious allegations in the mail
that you are mailing to this mailing list and that you could be open to
litigation. Not that I am going to sue you. I am really enjoying the
mail. Haven't read such a hilarious mail for quite some time. other than the mention of "For instance,
this FAQ is a statement from
the Board." in the page that is on the gnu.org.in website there is no
mention of it any were else.
For instance
http://www.google.com/search?q=satement+from+the+board+inurl%3Ahttp%3A
%2F%2Fmm.gnu.org.in%2Fpipermail%2Ffsf-friends%
2F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a
when people at the top look bellow there feet they find lilliputs.
When these lilliputs come face to face they suddenly become big, this
is called as mass base and this mass base has to be organised in a
democratic way.
I am proud to be in a democratic country were i can express my views
freely. I want that freedom back to the very organisation which i
believed for and trusted for so many years has motivated and kept me
free from escapism, opportunism.
Oh, I never thought that FSF India has such achievements to its credit!
Really wonderful, I should say! Kept you free from escapism and
opportunism, you say? Thank you for sharing that with us.
Best
--
V. Sasi Kumar
Free Software Foundation of India
http://swatantryam.blogspot.com
1 Dec
1 Dec
2:57 a.m.
New subject: Statement of FSF India board on recent incidents
2008/11/30 ajay kumar <freeajju(a)gmail.com>om>:
dear friends
Dear Ajay,
Welcome to Free Software community (or I don't seem to remember seeing
your mails in any of the lists I subscribe to - at least for the lists
I'm a member you are new).
I'm happy to see so many of new members joining and actively
participating in serious discussions.
local chapters
are you saying that FSF-I should run like its run in Europe, Americas? that
means we are trying to force solutions meant for other countries to that of
ours! in order to have more people (in general terms we call "mass base")
FSF-I must have local chapters. I mean considering your own views Just see
the number of population in indian states they are as equal in population to
that in each country in europe, this clearly shows the importance of having
local chapters.
IMHO, FSUGs across the country will provide more decentralized way of
reaching masses. I think Nagarjuna and others stressed this point
earlier. I appreciate your enthusiasm to get the message of Freedom to
the masses. I would like to ask you to join a local user group, if you
have not done it yet. Where are you based out of? Is there a Free
Software User Group there? If not are you interested in opening a new
user group in your locality? May be as a first step you can meet with
your friends and discuss about it. If you announce it here, anyone
from that part of the country may be able to join you.
On an average I think people sleep for 6 hours else if
a person sleeps for
months and years together, wake up a fine morning find themselves in losing
there control over the foundation, obviously it makes them irritated,
uncomfortable and the consequence is FAQ's in gnu.org. You people didn't
even bother inform organisations that are mentioned in the FAQ's.
So are you repeating the hijack theory again? Do you support the
hijack theory? Doesn't "losing there control over the foundation"
amount to hijacking? Are you suggesting the conspiracy theory of
hijacking FSF India real? On the contrary to your observation, what I
saw was a patient response from FSF India in clarifying each and every
question raised and engaging in positive conversation. I am sure FSF
India would focus more on supporting and working together with FSUGs
across the country now that more people are asking for Free Software
community presence in more parts of the country. I hope you would join
in this effort and help reach the message of Freedom to the masses.
board of directors
When is the so called Board of Directors going to so called NOMINATE there
new Board?
As Nagarjuna asked Vikram, do you have someone in mind? Who do you
think should be nominated to the the board from the working group?
All the working group members are here.
http://www.gnu.org.in/about-fsf-india/whos-who
Also who do you suggest the new people for the working group. Let us
see what the community feels about your nominations and see if FSF
India accept them. I hope you will give a try.
most of the current board of directors are the same
onces who are there
since its inception which needs a change. (well power and control over FSF-I
need to change)
Again are you repeating the hijack theory? As I wrote earlier, can you
suggest new names from the community? Obviously you need to support
your nominations with arguments and show the record of the people you
are proposing.
for everything that is old has to go and something new
will always come into
place and this transition dosn't happen smoothly.
It does not have to be confrontational from the start. Give a try.
Well as the mails start poring in and that board of directors feel that they
are baring the peoples quest for clarity, they are actually undermining the
larger interest of the people. And to say "when you have a responsibility
you don't bare things or say "patiently replying", rather you need to
understand the pulse of the people".
Well, it is not as simple as you think. It is easy to just criticize.
An organization like FSF India needs to discuss and it will take time.
Considering the time it took to come up with FAQ, I don't think it was
slow. Patience is a virtue.
How long can you guys go on dictating terms like this?
For a change now you already started dictating. FSF India should do
this, do that ...
who can speak on behalf of fsf india?
It is already explained clearly in the FAQ. If you are just hoping it
be different, I am sorry.
ha thats such a big joke.
first you say that what ever the fsf-i board members say becomes the stand
of fsf-i and then you say that fsf-i board will discuss it first and then
say that "ITS THE BOARDS DECISSION". Well I need some more clarity the mails
that arun, sasi and nagarjuna have mailed to this mailing list, are they the
official stand and official statements of FSF-I? or are they just some
personal views?
"8. Who can speak on behalf of FSF India?
The Secretary is normally the official spokesperson of FSF India. But
any member of the Board may speak on behalf of the Foundation.
However, it may be noted that such statements by any member of the
Board, including the Secretary, may be considered as the official
statement of the Board only if it is specifically mentioned so."
Doesn't that explains what you are asking for?
Why do you guys make the rules and then break them?
(by going on your own
words "WE THE *BOARD OF DIRECTORS FSF INDIA* have the only right to dictate)
i haven't seen any of you guys mention weather the statement that you are
making is an official stand of fsf-i or its just personal views.
It would have taken quite a bit of effort from your side to get "right
to dictate", judging from the number of people coming up with
dictatorial suggestions. Did you thought it would be so easy? You just
have to stare and FSF India and the Free Software community would look
away?
other than the mention of "For instance, this FAQ is a statement from the
Board." in the page that is on the gnu.org.in website there is no mention of
it any were else.
You would have done quite a bit of research to discover this. Good work.
Hey its just so cool you are using iceweasel. I too use it.
when people at the top look bellow there feet they find lilliputs. When
these lilliputs come face to face they suddenly become big, this is called
as mass base and this mass base has to be organised in a democratic way.
May be you can help us understand how to do this by explaining how you
did it. There is something to learn from everyone.
I am proud to be in a democratic country were i can express my views freely.
I want that freedom back to the very organisation which i believed for and
trusted for so many years has motivated and kept me free from escapism,
opportunism.
Great to have known someone so passionate. It is really motivating.
with love for freedom
ajay kumar
Cheers
Praveen
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പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില്
<GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call!
<DRM> What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak?
(as seen on /.)
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