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House of Dancing Lights
by Rakesh Ambati 24 Mar '04

24 Mar '04

Hello list, This post has a small story,the story which I could never understand. Perhaps someone will help me understand it better. With that hope I remain -arky --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ah, my dear friends, Listen,I have a story of tell, the story of house of dancing lights. I never heard anyone mention of the house, the little house on the hill.Not until the overcast the day I sat beside the fire in this roadside inn. 'I have seen many learned men go the over hill' said anna. Anna,the inn keeper knew me from annual stopover at the inn. 'Go where,anna?' I asked. 'To the house of dancing lights, where the old white beard lives. Many learned men from lands far far away come here. On clear summer nights you can see the dancing lights,over there' anna said. 'Over that hill, I don't see any dancing lights,anna' 'No,those were good old days,the men never come.' with a sad face anna left the salon. I decided to stay back the next day and visit the house on the hill,perhaps I meet the old white beard,strange name those country folk have.I rose early next morning, the portly inn keeper the showed my the path that led up the hill. The path up the hill lay steep.Disused for the long time,grass grew all along the path.Sweating with excursion,I reached the house. As I passed the gate,looking at house build with strong oak and stone.It stood there bravely deifying the menacing winds of the hills. 'Come in and sit in the shade' A voice called from the courtyard. The white beard beckoned me. 'Its a hot day, drink this water from the spring for I have knowing more to offer.' I drank the cool water the from jug,his calm smiling face asked no introduction,and none was given. 'Is this the house of dancing lights' I asked coyly. 'That what's the folks used to call it ' he said. 'It was known by that name, when the learned men come here' I asked. 'Learned men, with strong hands build this house. They build it with ideas,not stone and oak' 'Alas,they come no more' 'In the dark nights they built log fires and talked the things of learning,the night sky lite with sparks of joy and learning.' Thus ending my meeting with old white beard.I left him there in the house of dancing light, now I knew why it called so. Day flew by, again the time had come to visit my old parents in the country, I once again stopped by the inn.Anna,received me with joy and told me 'the learned come again from the lands far far away, they all go to the house over the hill'. 'Aha, the house of dancing lights, anna' I asked. 'No, I don't see dancing lights anymore' anna said and went back wiping the mugs. I decided to visit the old white beard, walking up the steep path, I saw the path was now well used. Seeing liter lying around the path, I realized sadly how much things changed. The grand old white beard welcome me with open arm's and come sit with me. 'So the learned men come again' I said 'yet,the night sky isn't lit with dancing sparks'. White beard was strangely silent,his gaze so distant and disenchanted. As if coming out of reverie, the old white beard spoke. 'My son,the learned men of the yore came here to give light of learning in the dark-th of night, sharing the warmth of their idea's.They left this place a little better every time they left.' 'Men,who cometh now desire to take what can not be given,they cast only shadows' ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The house of dancing lights is still there,on the hill.I could never understand the words of old white beard.Pray, enlighten me -arky ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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HOWTO Learn Linux
by swathantra software 18 Mar '04

18 Mar '04

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Re Fsf-friends MIT and Open Course Ware
by doxa＠sancharnet.in 18 Mar '04

18 Mar '04

Fred, please refrain from such misleading subjects and even more misleading articles. Also please make sure you read what you forward. Fred, I suppose there needs to be a SWOT done on MIT's Open Course Ware, before declaring their 'fitness' for reproduction, at least here in India. A blank approval to such themes will definitely invite more criticisms and /or create 'tensions'. Rgds, CK Raju Thrissur

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Re: [Fsf-friends] QT Designer
by Rajkumar S 17 Mar '04

17 Mar '04

> Guys who post such confusing > emails suggesting the use of `Open Source', > `Freeware', `Shareware' etc. should be put on our watch > list and repeat offenders' mail should be blocked. Yes, this should be done with utmost priority. And even after banning from our list, if they harp about all these heretic stuff in other lists, we should even think of hiring some pretty good muscile men to beat the hell out of them. That will make these suckers to not even think of OpenSouce even in their wildest dreams! raj

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[Fsf-friends] INDIA: Text books are on the Net in Kerala... for the asking
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

[Thanks to i4d for pointing to this link. FN] Financial Daily from THE HINDU group of publications Monday, Mar 15, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Open courses and e-learning K.G. Kumar SOMETHING revolutionary is happening in Kerala's education sector. From the next academic year (2004-05) onwards, all textbooks for students of Class 10 will be available on the Internet. Textbooks for students studying in Kerala where Malayalam or English is the medium of instruction are already available online. Students and teachers can download the textbooks free of cost, provided they are used only for educational purposes. The textbooks can be downloaded from either www.keralaeducation.org or www. education.kerala.gov.in in Adobe's portable document format (PDF), which allows for printing. As more and more States and universities put up their resources on the public domain via the Internet, it is worthwhile paying tribute to one of the pioneers of the movement to make knowledge freely available to whoever desires to acquire it the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). In 1999, MIT Provost Robert A. Brown asked the MIT Council on Education Technology to provide strategic guidance on how MIT should position itself in the distance/ e-learning environment. The resulting recommendation led to the idea of MIT OpenCourseWare (MIT OCW), which made available on the Net materials from virtually all of MIT's undergraduate and graduate courses. MIT OCW's goals are to (a) provide free, searchable, access to MIT's course materials for educators, students and self-learners around the world; and (b) create an efficient, standards-based model that other institutions may emulate to openly share and publish their own e-learning course materials. The latter objective has been partially echoed in Kerala as well, with the Technopark-based Indian Pick-up truck segment Institute of Information Technology and Management-Kerala (IITMK) putting its course materials on the Internet too. OCW is in line with MIT's stated mission to advance knowledge and educate students in science, technology and other areas of scholarship that will best serve the US and the world in the 21st century. It is also true to MIT's values of excellence, innovation and leadership. Since it opened to the public on September 30, 2002, users from more than 215 countries, territories, and city-States around the world have visited the MIT OCW Web site. They have around 500 courses to choose from, in disciplines ranging from Aeronautics and Astronautics to Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences to Women's Studies, to name just a few. The reactions from users have been more than enthusiastic. A New Zealander, usually anti-American in sensibi- lities, said: "I am a New Zealander and must confess I do not generally have a very high opinion of the influence of America in the rest of the world. At times it can make one quite angry... However, projects like this bring home the fact that there are some pretty fine people over there, and that it is easy to judge a nation (or entire group of people) on the failings of a few. Keep up the good work, and thanks for restoring some faith in the US of A." One crucial element to the success of MIT OCW was the wholehearted backing of the faculty. MIT says it could not have published these courses, and the OCW will not succeed long-term, without the support of MIT's world-class faculty. That is something Kerala's educators need to ponder. In a State where teachers are more keen on taking private tuitions than in honing up on their knowledge, the tendency is often to hoard notes and lectures, fearing that competition from other tuition providers will draw away potential paying students. The real competition today, ironically enough, is from the Internet. Who needs to shell out precious rupees and walk long distances to attend a class in a cramped room when you can get all the knowledge you need in the comfort of your own room? If e-learning comes of age in Kerala - developing from online textbooks only to entire courses and lectures freely available to anyone with access to the Internet - tuitions may well become a thing of the past. The writer can be contacted at kg(a)tug.org.in Article E-Mail :: Comment :: Syndication ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Hindu Group: Home | About Us | Copyright | Archives | Contacts | Subscription Group Sites: The Hindu | Business Line | The Sportstar | Frontline | The Hindu eBooks | Home | Copyright * 2004, The Hindu Business Line. Republication or redissemination of the contents of this screen are expressly prohibited without the written consent of The Hindu Business Line ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- March 2004 | Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 1 2 3 4 5 6 | ---------------------------------------- 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | Email fred at bytesforall.org 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | Writing with a difference 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ... on what makes *the* difference 28 29 30 31 | http://www.bytesforall.org ------------------------------------------------------------------- CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html -------------------------------------------------------------------

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Farmaguddi (Goa) GNU/Linux event, March 20-21
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

Inauguration Schedule [Details from kvmadhav(a)gec.ac.in ] GNU/LINUX-Workshop-04 Chief Guest: Shri Nitin Kunkolienkar President, GCCI and MD ; Dlink Pvt.Ltd Guests of Honour : 1.Shri Anupam Saraph Computer Society of India - Goa Chapter, Chairman and Adviser IT, Govt of Goa: 2. Shri Atul Chitnis Director, Exocore Consulting. - Bangalore. Registration starts : 8. 30 am Inaguration starts at 9.00 am sharp. Invocation of the programme by students 9.00 amLighting of the lamp by students from various colleges 9.05 am Welcome of the guests- 9.07 amChief guest speech - 10 minutes max- 9.17 Guest of honour speech - 5 minutes max.- 9.25Principal of the institute speech - 5 minutes.-9.30 vote of thanks-9.32 Tea break - Upto 9.45 am Start of Worshop, 9.45 am note :All speakers are requested to abide by timings strictly and kindly arrive at the venue by 8.45 am. All speakers are requested to forward their presentations by 19th Friday4.00 pm All delegates and students need to arrive latest by 8.15 am.Since we expect a large audience and hence arrive early. Go with the mantra ; Wake up Early Start your dayEarly and arrive Early and safely. The Inaguration will proceed with or without the Chief Guests/ Guests of Honour atsharp 9.00 am. Organisers. Day 1 20th March 2004 note: Evening tea will be served between 3.15 pm to 4.15 pm. No break has been allotted. Timings Library ReferenceHall Seminar Hall Hall 1 Lab 1 8.30 am to 11.30 AM RegistrationOpens 9.00 amto 9.30 am Inauguration 9.30 to 9.45 Tea Break 9.45 to 10.45 Naba Kumar Anjuta Ide | Gopi Garge Networking | Arvind Yadav IP tables 10.45 to 11.45 Ashutosh Naik Network security | Sponsor 1IBM | Trevor Warren 11.45 to 12.45 Animesh Singh Clustering in Linux | Atul Chitnis | BB Saha Magical world ofLinux graphical desktops | Mahesh T Pai Legal issues inLinux 12.45to 1.45 Lunch Break 2.00 pm to 3.00 pm Dr Anil Seth Python | Sponsor 3 Novell | Kartik N/Mahendra Kernel programming 3.00 pm to 4.00 pm Gurunandan Bhat PHP Introduction | Atul Chitnis | Yunus Sheikh Embedded Systems | GautamVenkataraman Wireless networks 4.00 pmto 5.00 pm Bhaskar Ghose LAMP | Gopi Garge NetworkingContd... | Amit Shirodker Demo in Embeddedsystems 5.00 pmto 6.00 pm Day 2 21st March 2004 Timings Library Hall Seminar Hall Hall 1 Lab 1 9.00 to 9.30 Tea Break 9.30 to 10.30 GurunandanBhat | TrevorWarren | Mahesh T Pai 9.45 to 10.45 Dr Anil Seth Python | Sponsor 2 Red hat | Ashutosh Naik 10.45 to 11.45 Animesh Singh | Naba Kumar | Venkatesh Prabhu * Unix programming 11.45to 12.45 Kartik N | Mahendra M | Animesh Singh 12.45to 1.45 Lunch Break 2.00 pm to 3.00 pm Arvind Yadav | Bhaskar Ghose | Sandeep Verenkar | GCCI talk | FrederickNoronha 3.00 pmto 4.00 pm AshleyDelaney | George Easaw | ShivramKhandeparkar Open source projectManagement 4.00 pmto 5.00 pm Schedule is tentative and subject to change. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- March 2004 | Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 1 2 3 4 5 6 | ---------------------------------------- 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | Email fred at bytesforall.org 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | Writing with a difference 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ... on what makes *the* difference 28 29 30 31 | http://www.bytesforall.org ------------------------------------------------------------------- CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html -------------------------------------------------------------------

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Open courses and e-learning, March 15, 2004 (fwd)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

See the first item. FN -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- March 2004 | Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 1 2 3 4 5 6 | ---------------------------------------- 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | Email fred at bytesforall.org 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | Writing with a difference 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ... on what makes *the* difference 28 29 30 31 | http://www.bytesforall.org ------------------------------------------------------------------- CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 15 March, 2004 [ www.i4donline.net ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Open courses and e-learning Something revolutionary is happening in Kerala's education sector. >From the next academic year (2004-05) onwards, all textbooks for students of Class 10 will be available on the Internet. Textbooks for students studying in Kerala where Malayalam or English is the medium of instruction are already available online. http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2004/03/15/stories/2004031500711300.htm Wasting water, wasting energy What if water and energy problems in urban India were linked? Water, when reaching your home, has travelled and contains quite a bit of energy, on which one can save. Techniques do not exist on their own, they are embedded into the governance of cities. http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=54778 Use ICT to bridge digital divide The agenda was to use information and communication technology (ICT) to bridge the digital divide and the goal was to help achieve the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) that the United Nations has mandated for a better world. And that's what OneWorld South Asia's two-day third regional meet in New Delhi was all about. http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=13427716 The Digital Revolution and Ghana�s journey towards e-economy Today, we are witnessing a new revolution that will shape the knowledge society of the 21st century �Digital Revolution� driven by the accelerating convergence between the Internet, broadcast media and Information and Communication Technologies (ICT), this revolution indeed affects all aspects of our life- the way we learn, work and communicate with each other as well as the way governments interact with civil society. http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=5376 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your comments and suggestions and request for subscribe/unsubscribe are welcome at info(a)i4donline.net www.i4donline.net [The first monthly magazine on ICT4D] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[Fsf-friends] [AsiaOSS-RT:00202] Photo gallery from Hanoi ; Task Forces. (fwd)
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

Update of what's happening elsewhere in (East) Asia. FN -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- March 2004 | Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa | Goa India 0091.832.2409490 or 2409783 1 2 3 4 5 6 | ---------------------------------------- 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | Email fred at bytesforall.org 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 | Writing with a difference 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ... on what makes *the* difference 28 29 30 31 | http://www.bytesforall.org ------------------------------------------------------------------- CHECK OUT USENET http://www.algebra.com/~scig/approved/threads.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Thanks again to our hosts, MOST, and Dr Do Van Loc, as well as to the organisers, CICC, for a very enjoyable Symposium in Hanoi. I have uploaded a gallery of pictures at http://community.asiaosc.org/~iwsmith/events/asiaoss3/ (of course, with an 'open content' license!) Perhaps we should discuss the various task forces? Should the various roundtable members offer which task forces they would like to join? Does the group think that each task force needs an email group (e.g., tf-repository(a)ml.asia-oss.org), if CICC is able to set this up? Or, do people prefer to discuss and join the taskforces using Wiki discussion? Regards Imran -- Imran William Smith, Open Source R&D, MIMOS Berhad, Malaysia http://opensource.mimos.my - http://www.asiaosc.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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Re: QuiTing designs and a rant
by Mahesh T. Pai 14 Mar '04

14 Mar '04

Populating the list and its archives with erroneous and misleading messages is not a very good thing to allow. Repeated misleading posts are like urging the FSF-I to adopt a message contrary to what it is trying to spread. People are free to have their own opinions, but IMHO, when such opinions conflict with the explicitly stated goal of the FSF, a FSF-I forum is not the place to propagate them. Newbies do read the archives, and unrebutted wrong messages in the archives are not exactly conducive to work of the FSF-I. Flaming people who correct wrong messages too is not a very good practise either. > Imagine the "good" publicity we would have got in slashdot, <rant> Earlier soft-glove approaches to people deliberately making wrong statements and flaming people trying to correct them, have resulted in kind of messages quoted below, which you can find at http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsf-friends/2003-August/001145.html I have slightly modified the original to appear as if it a /. post. <quote from an imaginary /. article> FSF INDIA CORRECTS ITSELF THE FSF-I has finally agreed that imposition of the terms such as "GNU" and "Free Software" is not justifiable as these word contains only manufactured messages to convey. FSF-I has decided that it is not advisable to urge others to use a term whose message is a manufactured one. Advocates of these terms may have some emotional satisfication in using these terms and need not be the case with all who campaigns for the freedom. In a press note issued today, the FSF-I acknowledged that a movement or philosophy is called after its originator. However common sense requires that a product is referred by its shortest name for convenience. The note goes on to admit that though major portion of the Linux OS is developed by the GNU project, (a) linux sense is better than common sense (b) 3 is greater than 5, (c) there is no Linux OS other than GNU/Linux. The FSF-I therefore has consented to the usage of "Linux" is justified by ease of use. The note goes on to say ''... There are spatial variations in the meaning of certain words. The word "Free" for us is actually more linked with 'free of cost' than to "freedom". However it is understood that there is concerted effort by FSF team to use "Free" for freedom whenever it is linked with software. In other sectors, advocates of imperialist globalisation use the term "Free" for freedom where freedom is a psuedo-freedom. And FSF-I consider "Free" as propaganda term by advocates of imperialist globalisation in other fields. It is found that nowadays even members of FSF teams are using the acronym "FLOSS" to avoid these confusion created by the term "Free". <end imaginary /. post> </rant> -- +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ Mahesh T. Pai, LL.M., 'NANDINI', S. R. M. Road, Ernakulam, Cochin-682018, Kerala, India. http://paivakil.port5.com +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+

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Re: [Fsf-friends] QT Designer
by gok gok 13 Mar '04

13 Mar '04

Hi Smith Raj, I have worked in Qt and Qt Designer for Redhat and Suse Linux. Yoo can download the Qt Library from http://www.trolltech.com Use the following links for downloading the 30 day trial version. http://www.trolltech.com/developer/download/qt-x11-eval-3.3.1.tar.gz for linux http://www.trolltech.com/developer/download/qt-win-eval-msvc-3.3.1.exe for windows msvc Regards R.Padmakumar --- "Smith S.Raj" <smithsraj(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > hi everyone... > > my name is Smith and i'm doing my 2nd year MCA > inNoorul Islam College, thuckalay,Tamil Nadu...I was > doing many projects in VB../but now i decided to > turn to Linux...as common man can afford it...i > would like to design same type of application that i > used to develop in Vb in Linux...Pls advice.... > > heard there is QT designer Similar to VB designer... > > pls ADVICE. > > -luv > > -Smith > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster.> _______________________________________________ > Fsf-friends mailing list > Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in > http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

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