Fsf-friends July 2006

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fsf must rate and talk about application softwares too
by Kush 19 Jul '06

19 Jul '06

Hi all, Right now it is easy to always go to sites which provide certain kinds of application softwares but in the real world people need collaborative softwares. I think the business world is using propreitary applications for distributed work and we don't have sites which give any ratings for such softwares from the open source world. I am talking of the virtual private network applications or CRM or CMS or wiki type softwares where lay people can really collaborate in an office or group setting. We have no rating mechanisms to judge which features are better among a group of softwares. Typically people are interested in knowing 1 whether moin moin is better than (and in what ways) mediawiki or zwiki etc etc in the field of wiki softwares. (I came across Moin moin accidentally thru the dapper ubuntu cd which features it in the opencd.org project.) or whether egroupware is better than other softwares in the same line? (groupware substitutes for lotus notes etc) or whether joomla is comparable to drupal or mambo etc etc in features" (cms applications) or whether openoffice's base application (database) is any good and if there are alternatives available in the open source world at present which can take on msaccess? (or a workaround with a mysql application for ms access) or how does freegis compare with postgis and maxdb etc gis application softwares ? (in the gis world of open source software) or whether ruby on rails will soon outpace python, perl and php in web based application development? (though perl, php, python each have a HUGe body of historical strength) Or whether eclipse is better than kdevelop(c++) or anjuta or bluefish or boa constructor(python or delphi/pascal) or other IDEs? (when newbies have to develop open source softwares) or the merits/demerits of IDE tools which are linked to version control system tools like cvs or subversion etc etc--which are the best tools in version control according to various features/parameters or whether there are better tools than argo UML (poseidon is propreitary) in the field of application development software in terms of high level requirements specifications software and automatic generation of software tools or what are the strengths vs weaknesses in short form and dispassionately analysed etc without advertising jargon. I don't know any place where such information can be easily read and found. and these are the things which really matter for laymen to come to speed in the adoption of open source software in India. Sourceforge.net earlier used to give a maturity rating (development status) for an application but it does not do so now. Even earlier the application software results could never be ordered by the development status (except for paid customers of sourceforge) It would be great if fsfindia or somebody could enhance the work of sourceforge by having some ratings and categorisation of key application development tools/catalysts. Thanks Kush

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Indian governments blocking blogspot, geocities, and other sites.
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 19 Jul '06

19 Jul '06

Die hard bloggers may try http://www.pkblogs.com/

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Indian governments blocking blogspot, geocities, and other sites.
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 18 Jul '06

18 Jul '06

Hi, http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/07/17/1732209.shtml http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/jul/17blog.htm http://jace.seacrow.com/ Having gone through all the above sites, it seems that the dividing line between the Indian and Chinese governments has gone down by a level. My knowledge about the issue is restricted to these sites and IRC channels on freenode.net, so I would not make further comments. However it seems that Indian Express is covering the issue, and there has been a coverage on certain news channels. Regards, Debarshi

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The Value of Free Software
by प्रव ीण् ए (Praveen A) 17 Jul '06

17 Jul '06

The Value of Free Software Evolution's usefulness has long been hampered by the lack of a single feature. Because it is free software, one organization knew the feature could be added, either by themselves, or by paying someone to do it for them. Find out what they did, why and how they did it, and how you can get the patch for yourself. http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/64720/index.html Regards Praveen PS: Most people think the freedom to change the software is not useful to them if they don't know programming, this is an excellent example why Free Software is better than proprietary software. see Shreyas' post about it http://blogs.gnome.org/view/shres/2006/07/12/0 -- "Value your freedom, or you will lose it, teaches history. `Don't bother us with politics', respond those who don't want to learn." -- Richard Stallman Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr

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RMS on GPL - sidekick
by doxa＠sancharnet.in 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

"..There's one other thing I should say. It's a very general thing. Governments that impose harsh restrictions on their citizens, backed up by cruel punishments, on behalf of corporations, are showing that they are not really on the citizens's side. They're not working for us, they don't represent us except with lip service. They represent the corporations and their goal is to rule us. These governments are democratic only in name. And since governments get their legitimacy from ruling on behalf of the people and protecting the people's rights, these governments lose their legitimacy. I'm very sad to say that almost all governments around the World have done this. Government of the people, by the flunkies, for the corporations. And it makes me very sad. ..." (Stallman at http://fsfeurope.org/projects/gplv3/barcelona-rms-transcript.en.html) Sounds perfect. CK Raju Thrissur ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using NWebmail, BSNL's Webmail Program

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GPL conference in Bangalore
by Krishna Pagadala 14 Jul '06

14 Jul '06

All, I have not seen any more news about gpl conference in Bangalore. How are the preparations proceeding? Krishna ===================================== Misinterpreting Copyright by Richard Stallman "Die Gedanken Sind Frei": Free Software and the Struggle for Free Thought by Eben Moglen mp3 ogg Free Knowledge blog . --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.

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GDM login screen on FSF India
by Hiran Venugopalan 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

Hi I have made a GDM login screen for Free software foundation of India. You can download it from http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/GDM-Freesoftwarefoundation.tar.gz -- Happy hacking | Hiran Venugopalan | |http://hiraneffects.blogspot.com | | # 09846951870 |

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Re: [Fsf-friends] GDM login screen on FSF India
by Ajay Pal Singh Atwal 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

One more request The buttons/ links to change language should be available in the login screen and if possible localization support would be good. -- Sincerely Ajay Pal Singh Atwal Dept of CSE & IT BBSBEC, Fatehgarh Sahib Punjab, INDIA -------------------------------- http://www.bbsbec.ac.in http://www.ajaypal.com -------------------------------- ajaypal[at]bbsbec.org, ajaypal[at]acm.org ----- Baishampayan Ghose <b.ghose(a)gnu.org.in> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/06/2006 04:39 PM, Hiran Venugopalan cobbled together some > glyphs > to say: > > Hi I have made a GDM login screen for Free software foundation of > India. > Nice work, Hiran. A few suggestions --

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GNU/Linux on AIR
by Pramode C.E. 09 Jul '06

09 Jul '06

Hi All, Please check out http://vivek-b.livejournal.com/5273.html __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Biggest Open Source ‘e-governance’ Application in The Country - Ready for Rollout in Chhattisgarh State
by Ajay Pal Singh Atwal 09 Jul '06

09 Jul '06

we read the title wrong, maybe it should says "Biggest use of open source technology in an e-Gov Project..." Exciting news, if gov projects are using Open Source (preferably FLOSS/ GPL) technologies and tools, that is the first step. Let the gov people taste freedom, it is addictive. My best wishes. -- Sincerely Ajay Pal Singh Atwal Dept of CSE & IT BBSBEC, Fatehgarh Sahib Punjab, INDIA -------------------------------- http://www.bbsbec.ac.in http://www.ajaypal.com -------------------------------- ajaypal[at]bbsbec.org, ajaypal[at]acm.org ----- Baishampayan Ghose <b.ghose(a)gnu.org.in> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/09/2006 11:23 AM, VMK cobbled together some glyphs to say: > > Biggest Open Source ‘e-governance’ Application in The Country - > > Ready for Rollout in Chhattisgarh State > > > http://egovindia.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/biggest-open-source-%e2%80%98e-go… > > Does this work ? Can this be DUPLICATED in other States ? How about > > LOCALIZATION of LANGUAGES ? > Where is the source code? Do this people understand what ``Open > Source'' > Software is? Merely running on the GNU/Linux platform doesn't make > any

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