Fsf-friends February 2009

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Custom SPIN for DF-Day+
by Mani A 21 Feb '09

21 Feb '09

Sorry. It was meant for a Fedora list A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc

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Microsoft, Red Hat to interoperate patent-free
by Manilal K M 18 Feb '09

18 Feb '09

For years, Microsoft has insisted that open-source vendors acknowledge that its patent portfolio is a precursor to interoperability discussions. On Monday, Microsoft shed that charade and announced an interoperability alliance with Red Hat for virtualization. Read More here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10164907-16.html regards -- Manilal K M : മണിലാല്‍ കെ എം. http://libregeek.blogspot.com

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Re: [Fsf-friends] [Fsf-kerala] Free Software in Higher Secondary
by Pramode C.E. 16 Feb '09

16 Feb '09

> > I remember myself asking in the ilug-cochin list about > alternatives for our > lab in engineering (computer science and engineering,under > cusat) .and i got > a very good response.I could also know that MEC,Kochi uses > completely free > software for all their lab work which is very appreciable > CS depts at Govt Engineering colleges Trichur and Sreekrishnapuram use completely Free Software --- and many other college CS depts are shifting over ... One or two enlightened faculty members can make a *lot* of difference - take for example the case of GEC Sreekrishnapuram - the CS dept professors there will accept project reports only in LaTeX; simple things like this have a lot of impact. Regards, Pramode -------------- Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket.yahoo.com

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Government organisation calling for Free Software companies
by Anand Asokan 15 Feb '09

15 Feb '09

Hi, Have you come across this tender floated by Central Silk Board - A government organisation? Tender Document for Enterprise Network Services Deployment and development of Centralised MIS Software for Central Silk Board http://indiansilk.kar.nic.in/tender/Tender.htm Surprisingly, they have mandated the use of Free Software only. And the tender document too looks very coherent and they knew what they want. Anybody on the list involved in preparing the tender? or atleast know who's behind the same? I surely hope this will receive the attention it deserves and qualified people participate. gnuingly yours, - asok

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Please sign the 'Say No to Copyright Filtering in Broadband Stimulus' letter.
by Vivek Varghese Cherian 12 Feb '09

12 Feb '09

Dear Friends, Please do sign the 'Say No to Copyright Filtering in Broadband Stimulus' letter at the URL http://www.publicknowledge.org/alertfax/1983 Regards, -- Vivek Varghese Cherian Website : http://vivekvc.freeshell.org Blog: http://vivekvc.wordpress.com IRC: Vivek and ViveKVC on both Freenode and OFTC GPG Key fingerprint: 0F53 447E A8D1 C4F7 C14E F117 A040 E935 7DFA D159

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Re: [Fsf-friends] [Fsf-kerala] Free Software in Higher Secondary
by V. Sasi Kumar 12 Feb '09

12 Feb '09

On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 11:58 +0700, Anoop Alias wrote: > maybe with the Pre-college school syllabus ; we must do something with > the the college sysllabus also .. Yes, we certainly need to. We have been able to get the High Schools to migrate. Now let us try to do that in the Higher Secondary schools. And then take on higher education. In a few years, everyone coming out of any institution should be familiar with Free Software tools. Best -- V. Sasi Kumar Free Software Foundation of India http://swatantryam.blogspot.com

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Re: [Fsf-friends] [Fsf-kerala] Free Software in Higher Secondary
by V. Sasi Kumar 12 Feb '09

12 Feb '09

I will be away from the Net for a couple of days. Meanwhile, it would be good if someone can draft a letter to the Education Minister asking for removal of specific references to proprietary software in the Higher Secondary syllabus. I think we can first try to get that done and then try for introducing applications that will be of help in higher education (such as Octave, GNU R, xmaxima, gnuplot, etc. for the science stream) or later in life (like software for the audio visual media, image editing, etc.). It looks like we will have to do some amount of thorough planning for this. We will not only have to identify what software would be good and also people to train teachers in them. Best -- V. Sasi Kumar Free Software Foundation of India http://swatantryam.blogspot.com

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Re: [Fsf-friends] [Fsf-kerala] Free Software in Higher Secondary
by Sasi Kumar 12 Feb '09

12 Feb '09

I think this is an important thing that we have to take up. Can we send letters from FSUGs? I will also arrange to send a letter from FSF India. Let us take this up seriously. We need to suggest alternatives too. I understand that they teach Tally for Commerce students. We may not have a Free substitute for it. So, perhaps, we can suggest alternatives. Maybe we can suggest that things like video and sound editing be taught to students of humanities. Please come up with suggestions. Best Sasi 2009/2/10 Renni P Mathunny <rennipm(a)gmail.com>: > Hello everyone, > > I hope most of you are aware about the use of proprietary software in higher > secondary classes following Kerala Government syllabus. (CBSE is no > exception, they also suggest using proprietary software.) > > It is very sad that the students, who have learned free software in high > school classes are forced to learn/use proprietary software in higher > secondary. > > Can we begin a campaign for revising the Computer Science and Computer > Application Syllabus of Higher Secondary classes – atleast to replace the > proprietary softwares with equivalent Free Software tools? There is no doubt > that the whole syllabus is to be revised. Outdated/obsolete tools/languages > like Visual Basic 6.0 and ASP are still taught in Higher Secondary. > > The software/tools to be learned by students in higher secondary courses, > are listed below. There are three different streams in Computer/IT -- > Computer Science for Science stream, Computer Applications for Commerce > stream and Computer Application for Humanities stream. All of them are > included in the following list. > > 1. C++ (Turbo C++ is usually used as the IDE) > 2. SQL (MS-Access / Oracle / MS-SQL Server) > 3. Visual Basic (Visual Basic 6.0) > 4. HTML / DHTML / Scripting Languages (VBScript / JavaScript / Perl / CGI / > ASP / JSP) > 5. MS-Office > 6. DTP (Adobe Page Maker) > 7. Text Editors > > The syllabus did not mention anything about using Free software. But it > suggests the different proprietary softwares that can be used. > > Regards, > Renni > > _______________________________________________ > Fsf-kerala mailing list > Fsf-kerala(a)mm.gnu.org.in > http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsf-kerala > > -- V. Sasi Kumar Free Software Foundation of India Please see: http://swatantryam.blogspot.com/

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Re: [Fsf-friends] [Fsf-kerala] Free Software in Higher Secondary
by Sasi Kumar 11 Feb '09

11 Feb '09

2009/2/10 Renni P Mathunny <rennipm(a)gmail.com>: > See the attached file -- list of alternatives. > > But I am not aware about an alternative to Tally for Commerce students. > Creating an alternative for Tally is also a very improtant task, becuase now > a days auditors (FCA/ACA) are forcing even government firms to buy/install > Tally, becuase they are familiar with it. GNU Cash may evolve as an > alternative. Thank you, Renni for the document. I would also suggest that, when we write, we can also suggest changes in the syllabus that would introduce sensible alternative applications/software. For instance, I thought it would be interesting and useful to teach some tools like audacity, cinelerra and advanced image editing to, say, students of Humanities, Octave, gnuplot and xmaxima (and maybe Python) to students of Physics and Maths, and so on. Please give your suggestions. Best -- V. Sasi Kumar Free Software Foundation of India Please see: http://swatantryam.blogspot.com/

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Phantom OS License Issues
by Mani A 09 Feb '09

09 Feb '09

There is a nice discussion on Phantom OS (similar in principle to S/38 ) at /. http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/06/1917233 You will find this more interesting: ______________ How is it licenced? It's not called a license anymore. Licenses are a thing of the past! It's called a "contractual object". And they're not written by lawyers, but "documentary artisans". _______________ Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc

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