Spammer. Can we block this e-mail?
-- Raj
On Saturday 03 Jul 2010, ipmurali@gmail.com wrote:
Hi fsf-friends, This is exciting! Along with 187,759 people I signed a petition asking the Prime Minister to hold a public consultation before taking a decision on the nuclear liability bill. These petitions were delivered to the Standing Committee looking at the bill and now they have decided to hold a public consultation.
The bill in its current form lets the foreign corporations get away by paying a meagre amount in case of a nuclear accident in India. The major chunk of the expenses will be borne by the Indian tax payers. But now we have a chance to change this bill and make it stronger.
Greenpeace, an NGO working on this issue, has prepared an open letter which states the changes required in the bill. Just like the petition, this letter will stand a chance of being considered if lots of us sign it. We have less than two weeks to change the bill and prevent another Bhopal in the making.
I have already added my signature.
Can you add your signature to this letter?
http://www.greenpeace.org/india/change-the-liability-bill
Thanks!
ipmurali@gmail.com
It is spam. But content is worth of getting help from everyone , particularly from members here. He should not be blocked.
Loknath Swain Mumbai
2010/7/3 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) raju@linux-delhi.org
Spammer. Can we block this e-mail?
-- Raj
On Saturday 03 Jul 2010, ipmurali@gmail.com wrote:
Hi fsf-friends, This is exciting! Along with 187,759 people I signed a petition asking the Prime Minister to hold a public consultation before taking a decision on the nuclear liability bill. These petitions were delivered to the Standing Committee looking at the bill and now they have decided to hold a public consultation.
The bill in its current form lets the foreign corporations get away by paying a meagre amount in case of a nuclear accident in India. The major chunk of the expenses will be borne by the Indian tax payers. But now we have a chance to change this bill and make it stronger.
Greenpeace, an NGO working on this issue, has prepared an open letter which states the changes required in the bill. Just like the petition, this letter will stand a chance of being considered if lots of us sign it. We have less than two weeks to change the bill and prevent another Bhopal in the making.
I have already added my signature.
Can you add your signature to this letter?
http://www.greenpeace.org/india/change-the-liability-bill
Thanks!
ipmurali@gmail.com
-- Raj Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends@mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends
On Sunday 04 Jul 2010, Loknath Swain wrote:
It is spam. But content is worth of getting help from everyone , particularly from members here. He should not be blocked.
By that logic we should be discussing the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the rising prices in India, the corruption of government and bureaucracy, the rise of English-speaking people in China, the sinking of the South Korean ship and about 1/2 a billion other worthy causes here.
This list is meant for the discussion of Free Software in relationship to India. Any other subject, however "worthy", is off-topic here.
And don't forget, your idea of worth differs from mine, as mine does from other peoples'.
In short, bringing in arbitrary social issues into a mailing list with a specified objective is spam and, in my opinion, worthy of moderation.
Regards,
-- Raj
Often its the arguments on "spam and moderation" that turns out to be worthy of deletion than what those that are "considered" spam. History shows that Raj is almost always the first one to get offended!
On 7/4/10, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) raju@linux-delhi.org wrote:
On Sunday 04 Jul 2010, Loknath Swain wrote:
It is spam. But content is worth of getting help from everyone , particularly from members here. He should not be blocked.
By that logic we should be discussing the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the rising prices in India, the corruption of government and bureaucracy, the rise of English-speaking people in China, the sinking of the South Korean ship and about 1/2 a billion other worthy causes here.
This list is meant for the discussion of Free Software in relationship to India. Any other subject, however "worthy", is off-topic here.
And don't forget, your idea of worth differs from mine, as mine does from other peoples'.
In short, bringing in arbitrary social issues into a mailing list with a specified objective is spam and, in my opinion, worthy of moderation.
Regards,
-- Raj
Raj Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends@mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 17:39 +0530, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:
This list is meant for the discussion of Free Software in relationship to India. Any other subject, however "worthy", is off-topic here.
And don't forget, your idea of worth differs from mine, as mine does from other peoples'.
I fully agree with you. But the post in question was more in the nature of a request to support a cause that should be of interest to all Indians. Specifically, it was not a post for initiating a discussion on a topic. It is possible that some of us may have never heard of this matter from another source. To that extent, I guess, we can let it go. Perhaps, an [OT] label would have been appropriate. This is not to say that people campaigning for anything can post such requests to this list. But, I guess, an occasional such post on some matter of public interest can be tolerated.
Regards Sasi
On Sunday 04 Jul 2010, ck raju wrote:
Often its the arguments on "spam and moderation" that turns out to be worthy of deletion than what those that are "considered" spam. History shows that Raj is almost always the first one to get offended!
Yes, because when I join a list on Free Software I expect it to be about Free Software. When I need arbitrary social issues I'll be sure to join a list discussing (or announcing) arbitrary social issues.
Once again, and this is in reply to Sasi too, there is a clearly-defined line between being on-topic and being off-topic. If off-topic discussions are permitted, please allow me to regularly present my views on subjects that I consider important but which may be of zero interest to other members of the group. Hell, who needs a list, let's just join Facebook or Twitter and continue our inane conversations there!
So without further ado let's talk about "Ravan", why it failed at the box office, whether this represents a decline in the Rai-Bacchan popularity in the country, who is likely to take up the slack -- SRK, Aamir, Hrithik or some new entity altogether? -- and how this changes the dynamics of the Bollywood Film Industry. I can bet more people would be interested in that than in some bill in parliament (and yes, I know about the bill and I support opposing it, but still maintain that it has NOTHING to do with this mailing list.)
Regards,
-- Raj
Your point is clear, Raj. It would do a world of good if you can do some introspection as to why you are the only one holding such a view on most such occasions.
On 7/4/10, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) raju@linux-delhi.org wrote:
On Sunday 04 Jul 2010, ck raju wrote:
Often its the arguments on "spam and moderation" that turns out to be worthy of deletion than what those that are "considered" spam. History shows that Raj is almost always the first one to get offended!
Yes, because when I join a list on Free Software I expect it to be about Free Software. When I need arbitrary social issues I'll be sure to join a list discussing (or announcing) arbitrary social issues.
Once again, and this is in reply to Sasi too, there is a clearly-defined line between being on-topic and being off-topic. If off-topic discussions are permitted, please allow me to regularly present my views on subjects that I consider important but which may be of zero interest to other members of the group. Hell, who needs a list, let's just join Facebook or Twitter and continue our inane conversations there!
So without further ado let's talk about "Ravan", why it failed at the box office, whether this represents a decline in the Rai-Bacchan popularity in the country, who is likely to take up the slack -- SRK, Aamir, Hrithik or some new entity altogether? -- and how this changes the dynamics of the Bollywood Film Industry. I can bet more people would be interested in that than in some bill in parliament (and yes, I know about the bill and I support opposing it, but still maintain that it has NOTHING to do with this mailing list.)
Regards,
-- Raj
Raj Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance & Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves _______________________________________________ Fsf-friends mailing list Fsf-friends@mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends
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