Fsf-friends January 2004

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RMS' Programme in Kerala
by Manilal K M 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

Hello, Can I get the details of Richard Stallman's programme at Thiruvananthapuram. Please give the correct time and whether there is any entry pass(I think there is no such restrictions) for the programme. if there is any entry pass where can I get it. Give the same for the two programmes(at 24th and 27th). regards Manilal -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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RMS's programs Kerala
by Arun M 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

Hi All, Update on RMS program in Kerala. 22nd Jan Abacus 2004 - Thrissur (http://www.jmctcr.org/abacus2004/) 23rd Jan Kochi 24th Jan EMS Memorial lecture at Senate Hall, Kerala University, Trivandrum 27th National Student Parliament, Trivandrum.

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GNU/Linux L10n initiatives
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

This is from Sankarshan in West Bengal. Kindly help if possible. FN Hi, I am undertaking a study titled "GNU/Linux L10n initiatives and their impact on ICT4D efforts with special relevance to management of such projects, integration and collaboration protocols, tools and methodologies" under the Independent Research Fellowship offered by the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies (Sarai), New Delhi. The aim of this study includes : * an attempt to understand the publicly available roadmaps for the L10n projects, * analyse the project management and release management protocols in place, * an attempt to analyse ICT4D efforts based on these localised GNU/Linux implementation and releases and * an effort to locate and identify possible 'index cases' and test bench areas leading to a self-sustaining implementation I wish to : [i] investigate existing domains of ICT4D through interaction with the shared networks in order to understand the processes [ii] analyse (and help in analysing) new 'niche' systems where ICT4D implementations can be carried out As part of the study, I'd like to request your assistance in : [1] providing a roadmap of the L10n initiative you are working alongside with special reference to the stated objectives and adherence to Open Standards as well as potential implementation areas [2] providing contacts for various ICT4D initiatives which are based on such L10n efforts The results of the study will be made available periodically in human readable format through various mailing lists (especially those at Sarai). All contributions and assistance rendered will be duly acknowledged and credited in such published results. Looking forward to a positive response. Warm regards Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshanmukhopadhyay at vsnl dot net GSM:: 0 98313 20136 +91 033 2447 4531 [R]

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Memorandum to CSIR
by Manilal K M 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

----- Original Message ----- From: eiidp <eiidp(a)md3.vsnl.net.in> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 22:22:02 +0530 To: "V. Sasi Kumar" <vsasi(a)vsnl.com>,Ramanraj K <ramanraj(a)md4.vsnl.net.in> Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Memorandum to CSIR > > There should be a two fold strategy. Apart from a memorandum to top of the > official hierarchy, we have to empower the lower strata of scientific > institutions in the use of swathanthra software. > The two fold strategy is a good idea. I have some experience with SEPSIT at Kannur. During this period we found that many govt. teachers were interested in GNU/Linux and we had given training to them. We had conducted some training to govt teachers initially. To our surprise many Management Schools came forward to use GNU/Linux. Many of the schools(both govt and mgmt) decided to use only GNU/Linux as the OS. But the disappointing factor is that schools at Thiruvananthapuram and nearby districts are not interested in this matter. I think the main reason behind this is the lack of media coverage about "Swathantra Software". Actually in Kannur we got excellent backup from the Media and the local political leadership. So the idea and advantages of "Swathanthra Software" should be primarily conveyed to the local scientific organizations which will eventually spread those ideas. About the memorandum to the President and PM, I think that one of us should prepare the draft and after verification and corrections, the signatures can be collected on an organization basis. Orgs such as SEPSIT, S2S2, CDIT, OSS, ATPS, FSF etc.. can take initiative in collecting signatures. Those who are members of other Mailing list may post this matter also. > We found it very easy to convince the local political leadership on usage of > GPL'd sotware, so they have decided to proceed with it. > > Finally we, the SEPSIT was forced to demonstrate the proposed system to NIC > officials. After a week long debate, SEPSIT has succeded in sanctioning the > fund. After that SEPSIT, Kannur Science Park ( An institution of Kannur > District panchayath built under Peoples Plan Campaign ), S2S2 ( A local > institution in swathanthra software business) etc. have provided training and > supports to teachers of these schools on swathanthra software. After the > successfull implementation of this project one of the NIC official suggested > that all NIC system should run on GPL'd software. > > Regards, > > Anil, > Appropriate Technology Promotion Society (ATPS) -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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Advanced Bash Scripting Guide, ver 2.3 update
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 13:58:48 CST From: "M. Leo Cooper" <thegrendel(a)theriver.com> Subject: Advanced Bash Scripting Guide, version 2.3 update Announcing the version 2.3 release of the "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide." This e-book tutorial and reference is the equivalent of a 600-page print book. With 280 illustrative examples, the book covers virtually every aspect of scripting. This e-book now contains printable reference cards, just like commercially available computer tutorials. The author invites comparisons with *any* of the commercially printed books on shell scripting. His aim was to write "best of category" documentation. "This tutorial assumes no previous knowledge of scripting or programming, but progresses rapidly toward an intermediate/advanced level of instruction ...all the while sneaking in little snippets of UNIX wisdom and lore. It serves as a textbook, a manual for self-study, and a reference and source of knowledge on shell scripting techniques. The exercises and heavily-commented examples invite active reader participation, under the premise that the only way to really learn scripting is to write scripts." -- from the Introduction License: Open Publication License This means the book is *free* and freely distributable. URLs: ---- Linux Documentation Project: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/abs-guide.html.tar.gz http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/abs-guide.pdf Sunsite: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/linux-doc-project/abs-guide/ Author's home page: http://personal.riverusers.com/~thegrendel/abs-guide-2.3.tar.bz2 [ 604k ] (bzip2-ed tarball containing SGML source, all example scripts, and rendered HTML) ########################################################################## # Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: cola(a)stump.algebra.com # # PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION. # # This group is archived at http://stump.algebra.com/~cola/ # ########################################################################## ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is: Internet: Linux-Announce-Request(a)NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU You can submit announcements to be moderated via: Internet: linux-announce(a)NEWS.ORNL.GOV Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites: ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux End of Linux-Announce Digest ******************************

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Strike
by doxa＠sancharnet.in 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

I hope the organisers are aware of the indefinite bus strike from 22nd Jan onwards. CK Raju

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Memorandum to CSIR
by eiidp 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

There should be a two fold strategy. Apart from a memorandum to top of the official hierarchy, we have to empower the lower strata of scientific institutions in the use of swathanthra software. Once we had a debate with officials of NIC Kannur. As posted to this list earlier, government high schools in Kannur parliamentary constituency is provided with computers loaded with swathanthra software and ether boot facility with the financial support from local MP fund. The SEPSIT (Social Entrepreneurship Promotion Society on Information Technology, Kannur ) has voluntarily acted as a consultant to the Kannur MP, Mr. Abdullakutty. We found it very easy to convince the local political leadership on usage of GPL'd sotware, so they have decided to proceed with it. However the District Collector ( who is the sanctioning authority for MP fund ) approached NIC for technical advice. The NIC officials with least experience on swathanthra software, doubted its functioning and blocked the project for a long duration. Finally we, the SEPSIT was forced to demonstrate the proposed system to NIC officials. After a week long debate, SEPSIT has succeded in sanctioning the fund. After that SEPSIT, Kannur Science Park ( An institution of Kannur District panchayath built under Peoples Plan Campaign ), S2S2 ( A local institution in swathanthra software business) etc. have provided training and supports to teachers of these schools on swathanthra software. After the successfull implementation of this project one of the NIC official suggested that all NIC system should run on GPL'd software. Regards, Anil, Appropriate Technology Promotion Society (ATPS)

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Free(dom) Software?
by Krishna Pagadala 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

Hi All, I am calling "free software" as "freedom software" these days. This is to emphasize that we are talking about freedoms, this way I am able to avoid the idiom ``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as in ``free beer.'', and I hope that the idiom will become unnecessary. Does anybody have an opinion on this? Unless I hear good reasons for why it should be otherwise, I will be using "freedom software" when I try and explain free software movement. Also in written communication, I am writing "Free(dom)" instead of "Free", should I just be using "Freedom". Please let me know. RMS, if you are reading this. Do you have any opinion on this usage? This is particularly important for me, since I am starting to give talks on Free Software Movement, (to friends mostly, in Bay Area, California, USA). The title of the next talk is "Freedom, Development and Justice in the context of Free(dom) Software Movement" Thanks Krishna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

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[Fsf-friends] What are the aims of people in the FSM (as represented on this list)?
by Krishna Pagadala 11 Jan '04

11 Jan '04

Hi All, Consider the following quotes on the list. "In fact, the effect of the GPL is that source is `free of cost, except cost of copying'." -Mahesh T. Pai "The free software movement greatly obliterates the line between technical community and general users" ".. please use copyleft ;-) " -Ramanraj K >From the list, my understanding of what people on the list are trying to do, are 1) Spread free software 2) Talk about freedoms provided, and ask people to reject freedom-subtracted software on ethical grounds. 3) Get government to use free software Note that 1 and 3 are done by OSF also, only 2 above is anathema to OSF. Are my impressions correct? Is there anything I missed? Please comment. Thanks -Krishna BTW: FSM stands for Free Software Movement BTW: OSF stands for Open Source Folks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Putting Linux reliability to the test
by Manilal K M 10 Jan '04

10 Jan '04

Hello Mr.Soundara Rajan, Your effort should be appreciated.It's not creating unnecessary traffic. You please try to post your views also along with the news. Another suggestion is that try to post it as a digest (per day). regards Manilal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Soundara Rajan N.S" <searchlight(a)sancharnet.in> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 06:20:19 +0530 To: Harish Narayanan <harish(a)gamebox.net> Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Putting Linux reliability to the test > Dear Mr. Harish Narayanan, > > Thank you for your mail, and if a couple of others also tell me that I have > been creating unnecssary traffic, truly, I would be quite embarassed! My > only interest is to make people on the list get to know about the current > news as early as possible. > > Thank you again, would keep you suggestions in mind which I know are well > intended. > > Regards > > Soundara Rajan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harish Narayanan" <harish(a)gamebox.net> > To: "Soundara Rajan N.S" <searchlight(a)sancharnet.in> > Cc: <fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Fsf-friends] Putting Linux reliability to the test > > > > Sir, > > > > I can see that you are enthusiastic about having everybody know about > > related news articles that pop up on popular technology related news > > sites. However, I think a large portion of people on such lists frequent > > these sites regularly on their own accord and might be irked by the > > redundancy. > > > > Please, try to editorialize or add value to the content with something > > you've written, or at least collect a group of, say five related > > articles and send it as a digest, to enhance their usefulness (or at > > least minimize the traffic). > > > > Of course, I could be wrong, and this might be their only window to the > > technology news world. All of this is my opinion and if it doesn't > > bother anyone else, I will not bring it up again seeing that for now it > > seems I am the only one bothered by unnecessary traffic. > > > > Harish > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > N.S. Soundara Rajan, Freelance IT journalist, Columnist "Deccan Herald" - a > leading English Newsdaily, published from Bangalore, India, Knowledge > networker > > ...connecting people to people and people to knowledge > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fsf-friends mailing list > Fsf-friends(a)mm.gnu.org.in > http://mm.gnu.org.in/mailman/listinfo/fsf-friends -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze

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