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From: "V. Sasi Kumar" <vsasi(a)hotpop.com>
> The Dept. of Science and Technology, Government of India, is
planning to
> invest in developing further their GIS called Gram that runs on
Windows.
> They are also planning to develop support for local level planning,
> which included a decision support system. Much of what they are
thinking
> of is possibly available in the Free GIS GRASS. I think FSF should
point
> this out to the DST and garner support for further developing GRASS,
if
> required, for local level development purposes. An extract from
DST's
> report is given below:
>
This is perhaps the tragedy that has been afflicting the project(s)
since inception. i feel that it'd be better if their particular needs
are identified and then FSFI does provide a comprehensive case for
GRASS. thanks for bringing this to the notice of the members.
-sankarshan
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COMPASS 2004, organised by Computer Association of
Eastern India is One of the biggest IT show in India
(from 13 th Feb to 17 Feb in Kolkata). We, the members
of LINUXjunkies.org have found some interesting facts
on GNU/Linux in this IT show.
1. There are only two participants have GNU/Linux
installed on their PC.Everybody else are using Windows
XP mostly. Whether they are PC vendors, or dealing
with Monitors or Music systems, everybody are using
Windows XP or Windows 98.
Only "aamar PC", the bengal's own branded pc has all
of their pcs redhat 9 pre-installed.
And another vendor, i just can't remember name, has a
Debian preinstalled on it's HCL Beanstalk machine.
2. When we enquired about the GNU/Linux compatible
Printers, we have none. All the vendors said that
printers have nothing to do with OS. but when we
insisted, they said that why we were bothering about
OS. Some of them offered us Windows for Free if we get
printers from them.
3. Some vendors are offering refurbished pcs, with the
price tag of Rs. 5000 to 9000, with Windows 98/XP
pre-installed. When we asked them about the GNU/Linux,
they said that we don't need to use GNU/Linux as they
are giving us Windows for Free ( Pre-installed ).i.e
why you use GNU/Linux if you could get Windows for
Free !
4.Chabria Infotech, one of the biggest s/w vendors of
Kolkata, has a display board at their stall. The board
says " Linux available here" with the logo of all
major linux distros. But when we enquired, we came to
know that they donot have any of linux distros right
there at their stall. We have to order and it will
take at least 5 to 7 days to get the CDs. One
interesting thing was, when we asked for the
price,they said the OEM (!) version of all distro will
cost Rs 500 and Original (!) Full pack will cost
around Rs 3500.
5. When we asked for any games on GNU/Linux, the game
vendors said that they don't have anything for
GNU/Linux.
Well, this the overall picture of GNU/Linux at Compass
2004.
Any comments???
regards
aloke majumder
LINUXjunkies Foundation
www.linuxjunkies.org/forum
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Today's ET has carried a report on the Akshaya computer literacy
mission titled "Leapfrogging the divide" in the The Knowledge Society
section. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/497224.cms
But, the article did not mention about any use of free software in the
project.
Last month, it was decided to draft a memorandum to request CSIR to
use Free Software and philosophy. I have posted a memorandum to the
fsf-discuss list, which includes ideas and suggestions from V. Sasi
Kumar, Mahesh T. Pai, and other members of this list. Please join the
thread at fsf-discuss and share your views.
Any body interested?
http://www.ugc.ac.in/hisp.htm
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Ernakulam, Cochin-682018,
Kerala, India.
http://paivakil.port5.com
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Keep up the good work, Kunal. Do join the fsf-friends(a)gnu.org.in network
if you aren't already part of it. FN
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, kunal bharati wrote:
> hello friends,
> As Kartik has started with his course discussion, I
> would like to add something more :)
>
> last month Juan Carlos visited our college, he is a
> founder(not sure) of Hipatia(www.hipatia.info) which
> is somewhat related to Free Software Foundation.
>
> With his ideas and support we have planned to start an
> institute called "GNU Gyan Institute"
>
> All the courses will be related to Free Software
> Technologies.
> Till now some courses like GNU/Linux, PHP/MySQL and
> Perl are fixed to be taught
> I have recommended Python too.
>
> If anyone is interested in the course can contact me,
> my number is displayed on the homepage
>
> i would like to know which books are good for the
> course so that we can have it in our library
>
> thanx,
> kunal
>
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Dear arun,
Did you get the T-Shirt pic's sources from our designer friend?
btw, I find it bit ironic that FSF India decided to distribute some
thing with out the sources. It's high time to correct it!
raj
Hi Montosh, Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.Permit me to
forward your mail to the LIH (LinuxIndiaHelp) and FSF-India mailing lists
since I'm don't have the answers to your tech queries. Stay in touch, FN
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, null script wrote:
> Can u provide a list of common soft/internal modems which will work in
> the following distros ==> Red Hat 8/9 stock,Mandrake 8.2/9.1 (single CD
> version i.e no kernel source),Free BSD 2.5,Knoppix/Lify and Fedora
> core.Me and many of my friends have these distros installed on our
> systems but we are forced to surf the net from windows due to the non
> avalibity of drivers on GNU/Linux.The following is the list of soft/int
> modems we have.
>
> Motorola SM56 Voice fax
> Motorola SM56 Speakerphone
> Conextant (Rockwell chipset)
> Dax int modems
> Intex int modems
> Ham int modem found on a Compac system
>
> I know the ideal answer would be get a hard/ext modem,but pls
> understand that this is not possible.I am sure many ppl would like to
> find the same but cannot.
>
> Also can u suggest some tips & tweaks to make the system work
> faster.Most of us have old systems 2 to 4 yrs old like K6-2,K6-3,PIIs
> with a avg of 128Mb ram per system.All the newer distros really crawl on
> most of the systems.I know the answer would be to upgrade the
> systems,but not possible.One hack is to use a light and fast manager
> like Flubox and Icewm but we miss the eye candy that Gnome and Kde
> provide. Kindly help!!
>
> I was also very moved by your article "Sharing Dreams ... Seeking Help"
> LFY Dec 2003.I want to know if anybody is ready to go ahead and share
> their broad band/fat pipes in India and make new software like
> GCC,JAVA,latest Kernel sources etc locally present.It is indeed very sad
> that in India we do not have a single local mirror of any distro or
> GNU/free software.China and Pak have them but why not India???.Pak even
> has the local mirror of packetstrom http://packetstormsecurity.org.pk/
> why not us. Every day we hear that India is poised to become the next
> super power in software but how?? when we even do not have proper flow
> of information and ideas amongst the common user.
>
> Why don't the big company's donate their old computers to NGOS and
> educational bodies. Wipe the data from its Hdd and install any of
> GNU/LINUX on it.Rather that just 'junk' them. Thousands of under
> prevliged children can benefit from it.I cant understand what's stoping
> them?
>
> Ppl who have a latest and greatest systems P4's and AMD -XP's can also
> help the community by just giving some CPU time for a good cause.They
> can compile the various popular software for different 'arch' like
> i586,K6-3 with all the optimization.And load it on the net for the ppl
> who have old and slow systems to download and use.I for one would very
> greatful and really appericate the speed boost which such a gesture
> would do for me.I am sure many users will appericate such a site or
> users group.I know from bitter experience that compiling some huge
> package is a nightmare on a slow system.I tried to compile the 2.6
> kernel on Mandrake 9.1 it took some 6 hrs on my system and still did
> not work.On a P4 2.4 it took 10 mins. and worked!!! I was foolish enough
> to try to install gnome 2.4 from the source on my red hat 9.0,after 3
> days and 3 almost sleepless nights still no luck.I would have been ever
> grateful if I could just DL the RPM and install it.
>
> Just some of my thoughts, hope to find some good news.Thanks for all
> the good work u are doing. All the best.
>
> Montosh Bisht
>
>
> "Hack into The Light"
>
>
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Yesterday at 11:23pm +0530 Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
> H S Rai said on Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 09:32:10PM +0530,:
>
> > But, IITM is not listed on www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ and there is
>
> Is that the CD vendors' page?
I get this page from:
www.debian.org -> CD ISO Image (Getting debian) -> fetch full CD
images
on this page there is list of all ftp/http mirror. As I was to
download debian, so after going through this list I was left with no
option to use some mirror outside India.
> > not even any other Indian mirror is listed. In that case normal
> > user get poor impression.
>
> Sure. But the file is there in mirrors_full.
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Hello Friends,
We are trying to make a list of institutions(Public & Private Sector)
which uses/teach GNU/Linux and GPL'd Software in India. Please give as
much details as possible. The details should contain atleast the
following:
Name of the institution
Field(eg. Software development, Education, etc..)
Whether the institution is in Private or Public sector?
Which distribution and version they use?
Website
Contact address
...
After preparing the list we'll put it in a website. This will be useful
those who wishes to have a career in GPL'd software and related
technologies.
If anyone have suggestions please include them also. We are not sure
whether such an initiative is made prior to this. If so please provide
such info also.
