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incomplete (SMC) Swantantra Malayalam Computing
by Raghavendra Bhat 03 Feb '04

03 Feb '04

----------<fwd>---------- >From fsug-cusat-bounce(a)freelists.org Mon Feb 02 04:57:42 2004 Return-path: <fsug-cusat-bounce(a)freelists.org> Delivery-date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 04:57:42 +0530 Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 05:41:41 +0800 From: Anwar AU <anwar(a)hackermail.com> Subject: [fsug-cusat] incomplete Swantantra Malayalam Computing To: fsug-cusat(a)freelists.org Errors-to: fsug-cusat-bounce(a)freelists.org Reply-to: fsug-cusat(a)freelists.org Message-id: <20040201214141.15376.qmail(a)hackermail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Well showing a few screenshots of how a Malayalam Gnu/Linux will look is really very impressive for the layman. But that is no way to impress the guys here with a solution for a Malayalam desktop. The Swatantra Malayalam Computing (SMC) hasnt achieved anything by showing a few pics on a malayalam destop working on someone elses computer. Its easy to show some one that 'I have created a malayalam gnome by showing how it works on my computer and others who need to see this can come to my house. Every One Is Invited.' Thanks but no. Its really easy to show the desktop icon names using a changed font, edit a few files so that a few of the easy applications are now in malayalam, rename the menu items with the font and worst of all show a web page that shows a malayalam site in full screen. This could be done on any gnu system. If this were to be seen by people of other languages they would laugh at our face saying these malayalees are'nt even capable of creating a locale of their own, and so doesnt have even the basic qualification to stand among us in the hall of locales. As far as I know, if I am right, the first meeting for the necessity of Indians to have a localized operating system to suit their purposes was first held at Trivandrum in around 1999. The meeting concluded with a descision to make localized versions of desktops for all the languages in India. And after this, it was descided to form a group of developers in kerala to do the specific task. It was called SMC and most of them were from Trivandrum. They started their work on it, and after 3 years these pictures and a few files on how to do this on your computer, is what they have achieved. The SMC's developers were properly funded and in the end we get to know that the work they have done is using a patented by some one else and could lead to patent problems in the future.They had taken pango as the rendering engine and used a code to support indic module which was a patented technology from IBM. Then how do we call it Swatantra Malayalam Computing. 'I am really proud of you guys. You have done a really great work'. The SMC's GPL'ed otf fonts were made from rachana fonts which was owned by the rachana group and also not even in GPL. This font could have later on made drastic impact on the project if the rachana team went to sue them in the court. But its only a few days back that the rachana came under the GPL. But I am happy that their work could'nt materialize otherwise, it would have roused too many complications. Every one is free to correct me where i went wrong. Thanks True Love for freedom comes from the love for source code and through the understanding of humanity's desire to share. ----------</fwd>--------- -- Free Software Users Group - CUSAT http://fsug-cusat.port5.com/ -- ragOO

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RMS Meets the President (of India)]
by Sajith VK 02 Feb '04

02 Feb '04

Hi, RMS corrects the mail about his meeting with APJ Abdul kalam. His own words.... "What I said (to the president of India) was that the British employed local elites to help keep the general public under control, and the developers of non-free software use the same approach." -- "Freedom Matters" Sajith VK

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*NEW* gnu-malayalam-discuss list
by Raghavendra Bhat 02 Feb '04

02 Feb '04

Please forward this mail to all interested. A new mailing list, gnu-malayalam-discuss(a)symonds.net has been set up to co-ordinate localisation projects for Malayalam. To subscribe, send a mail to gnu-malayalam-discuss-request(a)symonds.net with the subject `subscribe' May be, clicking here with help:- <mailto:gnu-malayalam-discuss-request@symonds.net?subject=subscribe> Or try the web interface:- <http://puggy.symonds.net/mailman/listinfo/gnu-malayalam-discuss>, Efforts for securing a web space are also on. URI of the home page will be posted as soon as available. The mailing list and home page will act as a point of contact with other software project; a very essential requirement if out project is to succeed. Please remember to use only plain text while posting to the mailing list. HTML mails are a strict no-no. -- ragOO ------------------------------------------------------- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn _______________________________________________ Linux-india-general mailing list Linux-india-general(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-india-general

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GNU/Linux Awareness Workshop
by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 02 Feb '04

02 Feb '04

GNU/Linux Awareness Workshop The Computer Science and Engineering Department of Jadavpur University (www.jadavpur.edu) organised a 2 day workshop on GNU/Linux Awareness on the 5th and 6th of January, 2004 at the Amitava Dey Memorial Hall. The workshop was aimed at creating a base level awareness about GNU/Linux, Free Software and the tools based on the Linux kernel. Integrating with hands-on sessions, the workshop had as its primary objective an appreciation of the GNU suite among various members of faculty. This was a first-of-its-kind event organised in the university. Given the fact that it was organised at a very short notice with a large section of the faculty remaining busy with examination schedules, there was some apprehension about the level of participation. The first day saw over 20 participants turning up for the session(s). Day 1 The progam began at 1030 hours with an address by Prof. Manoj Mitra, Dean, Faculty of Engineering and Technology. Dr P K Das [1] chaired the meeting Session 1 In his keynote address on "Free Software Concepts and GNU/Linux ", Dr A R Thakur [2] talked about the various domains which would see a change when a proper choice of Free Software was made. Elaborating on the business side implementations of GNU/Linux, Dr Thakur tempered his talk with real-life experiences from the field of Bio-informatics that faculty members could immediately relate to. Drawing liberally from Eric Raymond's 'Cathedral and the Bazaar', he elaborated on the macro-economic aspects of Free Software deployment in India. His address clearly drove home the point just how far GNU/Linux has matured over the years. Going beyond its original niche of universities and global hacker communities, GNU/Linux has been embraced with enthusiasm, supported and contributed to by a major section of the global IT majors e.g. IBM, Sun, Oracle, HP/Compaq, Dell, Sybase, SAP AG and Novell just to name a few. The Free Software Foundation of India [3]was represented by Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [4]. Talking about the concepts and connotations of 'Free' in the 'Free Software Foundation', he used analogous components of 'muft' and 'mukt' to elaborate on the 4 freedoms. This lead on to a discussion of the GNU-GPL. Using actual case studies to outline the future and possibilities using Free Software in different social sectors like education, mass literacy, health, e-governance and overall technological empowerment of people, he mentioned of some the on-going projects across India employing FLOSS technologies to develop and implement solutions that deliver their fullest potential. Indranil Das Gupta [5]representing the Kolkata GNU/Linux User Group [6]presented a case study on Low Cost Computing using FLOSS. He talked about the successful implementation of a Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP)[7] done at the Sociology Dept of Jadavpur University. His talk went into detail regarding some of the checks and measures essential for choosing the hardware and while evaluating tenders for LTSP systems from vendor/system integrators. Moving to the exact cost-matrix of the total implementation, he pointed out how using off-the-shelf commodity components, each such fully multi-media and Internet ready nodes can be setup at the maximum cost of ~ Rs. 12,500 only. An enticing mention was made of the fact that a LTSP network could be used for much more than providing a better computer-to-student ratio. That when used in tandem with OpenMosix, it can become an effective parallel processing cluster, utilizing the idle cpu-cycles and redundant memory as a step towards grid computing. He ended his talking by drawing the audience's attention to the fact that the system has not had a single failure or downtime since its commissioning 3 months back. Since there was still an hour to the lunch break, the organisers decided to move on to the next session immediately. And so, Dr. Pradip K Das [1] started on his presentation on the Fundamentals of GNU/Linux. His lecture moved through the principles of modern operating systems and UI standards. Using very simple terms and weaving in and out of a central theme, Prof Das, created a detailed software matrix which compared the Free Software Technology stack against proprietary ones. Moving beyond an excellent application-for-application matching, Prof Das explained that the domains where GNU/Linux currently caters to range from the Desktop to scaling all the way to Enterprise systems, that virtually every industry today is using the Operating System across all levels. A pithy presentation its was well-received by the audience, who came forward with quite a few questions of their own. Session 2 After the lunch break, Prof Chandan Majumdar [8] spoke on "Networking and Security using Linux". Highlighting the networking and kernel specifics of GNU/Linux, Prof Majumdar took the audience through the actual architecture of the OS. Shorn of any rhetorics, he pulled up real-life examples of use and experience with the OS in the department during execution of various projects. He explained how open-source of GNU/Linux helped them to create custom kernels with near-realtime properties and capable of running off flash RAM devices. Highlighting the security aspects of the OS, he explained how the user permission model allowed for a highly fine-tuned access control over computing resources like files etc, particularly in networked environments. On the topic of computer viruses - the bane of the existence of users of a certain very popular OS, he elaborated that while it is technically possible to author viruses on GNU/Linux, the extent of damage possible by such is seriously limited due to the inherent multi-user, multi-level permission level available on GNU/Linux. Using the whiteboard to highlight key points, Prof Majumdar took the audience through an unbiased appraisal of the pros and cons of GNU/Linux. While he pointed out that stability and performance as key reasons for the global surge in mainstream use of the OS, he put it down to lack of extensive driver support for commodity hardware (as compared to a certain well-known OS) and absence of good quality documentation as challenges facing the Free Operating System. After a round of tea and snacks, Prof Majumder's talk was followed by Prof S Neogy who chose to elaborate on GNU/Linux commands. Through a session titled GNU/Linux commands and OpenOffice, she explained with examples the most common and indispencible commands, with particular attention to bash shell. Introducing the bash shell and scripting basics to an audience for some of whom this was the first brush with the bash, she providided lucid explanation of the different commands. The participants were seen busy noting down her slides. After moving the basic commands Prof Neogy moved on to the Opensource Office package -- OpenOffice [9]. The participants were provided with explanations of the structure and functioning of the constituent packages like - Writer, Calc, Draw, Impress etc. The initial discussion on the suite completed, a complete hands-on tutorial was reserved for Day 2 This was followed by a mini open-house discussion where the audience raised questions and these were answered by the speakers present. However, mention must be made of Prof P K Das and Prof Nandini Mukherjee [10]who livened up the talks and discussions with their valued comments and interjections. Day 2 Session 1 This was designed to be a full fledged hands-on demonstration session on topics discussed on the Day 1. Using pre-designed course material and examples from text books, Prof Mukherjee and Prof Neogy interacted with the participants to provide functional knowledge of the bash shell along with introduction to the OpenOffice suite. A steady stream of questions, joy at writing out the first shell script meant that it was a highly enjoyable session for both the faculty members and the participants. Session 2 The Bangla Localisation Project of GNU/Linux is stylised as The Ankur Bangla Project [11]. This session was a demonstration of the recently released AnkurBangla LiveDesktop v1.0. Based on the concept of a LiveCD, the AnkurBangla LiveDesktop (Technology Preview) showcases the maturity of the project and also traces the roadmap for the project. On behalf of Ankur [11], Indranil Das Gupta [5] and Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [4] talked about the Challenges and Possibilities of Bangla L10n. A lively Q&A session also evolved on the various technological aspects of the project as well as developer teams and processes The workshop also had an Open House Session where participants directly interacted with the various speakers to clarify doubts, put forward questions and offer insights into the programme. Prof N Mukherjee conducted the Vote of Thanks and expressed a wish to conduct such workshop on a larger scale. She thanked all the participants and the speakers for attending the workshop at such short notice and talked about the need hold more such meetings, formal and informal to ensure that GNU/Linux awareness can be emphatically carried out. Notes and Links: [1] Dr Pradip K Das, Dept of Computer Science and Engineering, pkdass at ieee dot org [2] Dr Ashok R Thakur, Pro-VC West Bengal University of Technology, arthakur at cubmb dot ernet dot in [3] Free Software Foundation of India: www.fsf.org.in [4] Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay, sankarshan at bengalinux dot org [5] Indranil Das Gupta, Co-ordinator ILUG-Kolkata, indradg at ilug-cal dot org [6] Indian GNU/Linux Users Group-Kolkata: www.ilug-cal.org [7] Linux Terminal Server Project: www.ltsp.org [8] Prof Chandan Majumder, Dept of Computer Science and Engineering, chandanm at vsnl dot com [9] www.openoffice.org [10] Prof Nandini Mukherjee, Dept of Computer Science and Engineering, nmukherjee at vsnl dot com [11] Ankur Bangla Project - www.bengalinux.org ------------------- A place for talking about GNOME gnome-in-list(a)gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-in-list Let's extend the footprint !! ------------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Memorandum of Understanding
by doxa＠sancharnet.in 01 Feb '04

01 Feb '04

The deepening nexus between unethical (and bad) corporates and civil servants are becoming more and more exposed. In that way, we won't be short of examples. But what worries me most is the penetration of these corporates into the elite academic institutions that our nation has built with public funding . In another expose, here is the Prof and Head of CSE, IIT Delhi, engaged in an MoU with Microsoft Corpn. http://www.iitd.ac.in/cgi-bin/nph-p/http/10.116.2.57/mou/iitdmou.asp?mType=… The Rashtrapati is going to have a tough time ahead, no doubt about that. CK Raju Thrissur

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Memorandum of Understanding
by doxa＠sancharnet.in 01 Feb '04

01 Feb '04

The deepening nexus between unethical (and bad) corporates and civil servants are becoming more and more exposed. In that way, we won't be falling short of examples. But what worries me most is the penetration of these corporates into the elite academic institutions that our nation has built with public funding . In another expose, here is the Prof and Head of CSE, IIT Delhi, engaged in an MoU with Microsoft Corpn. http://www.iitd.ac.in/cgi-bin/nph-p/http/10.116.2.57/mou/iitdmou.asp?mType=… The Rashtrapati is going to have a tough time ahead, no doubt about that. CK Raju Thrissur

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by doxa＠sancharnet.in 01 Feb '04

01 Feb '04

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RMS meets President
by V. Sasi Kumar 01 Feb '04

01 Feb '04

RMS met the President and had discussions with him. A press release issued by FSF India on this matter is given below: FREE SOFTWARE FOUNDATION OF INDIA PRESS RELEASE January 29, 2004 Richard Stallman meets the President of India Dr. Richard M Stallman, world-renowned software guru and founder of the Free Software Foundation (FSF), had a meeting with His Excellency the President of India, Bharat Ratna Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam at 2:15 pm today. The meeting took place at the Rashrapati Bhavan, official residence of the President of India. At the meeting, Dr. Stallman explained to Dr. Kalam the ethical issues related to the use of proprietary software. The President was impressed by the issues raised by Dr. Stallman. It is understood that the President has instructed for the use of free softwaree for his IT facilities. Dr. Stallman also discussed the issues of using proprietary software in schools, which prevents children from sharing and learning to share. Implications of IT@School project in Kerala also got mention. Stallman's meeting with the president took place in the backdrop of support for free and open source software extended by the president at a public speech recently. Dr Stallman has been in India from January 16th. His programmes included the World Social Forum in Mumbai from January 16 to 22, lectures at Thrissur, Ernakulam and Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala, and meetings with various government officials in the state regarding the use of free software in government initiatives. Further information on the Free Software Foundation and its Indian chapter can be obtained from the web sites: http://www.gnu.org and http://gnu.org.in. Free Software Foundation, India. Press Contact Email : gnu(a)gnu.org.in Phone : 094470 34795 -- V. Sasi Kumar <vsasi(a)vsnl.com> CESS

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