Fsf-friends January 2009

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Free Software a Social Movement yet ???
by Anilkumar KV 10 Jan '09

10 Jan '09

2009/1/10 ck raju <ck.thrissur(a)gmail.com> > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Anilkumar KV <anilankv(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Tarnish the image of a partner organisation with baseless allegation will > no > (1) If an organisation can be tarnished with baseless allegation, then > there could be serious problems with the way in which it is organised > or constituted. Here it is the other way around. There is serious problem with one who raises the baseless allegations even in out of context. Tarnishing is not the way of positive criticism. Here those who work around these baseless allegations uses the platform of free software movement, to attempt to prevent the functioning of a larger a organisation for software freedom. These type of act is against the philosophy of freedom we advocate. > > (2) When a people-based organisation makes a section of people whom it > believes are behind this act of tarnishing, its enemy or target - then > also it ceases to be a people-based organisation anymore - because > from that point thereon, it becomes factional - a situation from where > it can no longer see *people* in its entirety. This is also a big > problem if the organisation claims to be a peoples' organisation > standing for ethical causes. Let the people decide which are people-based organisation. Deviating the target of a forum of free software movements to tarnish other organisations out of context is not done with good motive. (3) Lastly, why should you want the organisation which you support to > be accepted always by everyone as *Jesus-like* ? If we roll-back a > little, be a litlle more tolerant to accusations, allegations etc, > blood will continue to flow normally through our veins for better > productive purposes !! You may play with argument and counter argument by yourself, and not attribute those to me. I was asking the free software movements to come forward to work in coherence to strengthen the movement further. You may listen and realise whose blood is flowing abnormal. - Anilkumar K V

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Google Summer of Code 2009 : Announcement
by ck raju 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

Hello everyone, While we will be making a formal announcement with more details later this year, we wanted to let all would-be student participants in Google Summer of Code 2009 know that we will be holding the program once again this year. If you are interested in participating, it's a great idea to begin investigating FOSS projects you would enjoy contributing to *now*. Not sure where to get started? No time like the present to subscribe to project mailing lists, hang out in project IRC channels or in their forums, check out some source code and start investigating how things work. We have universally heard from our mentors that their most successful students are those who got involved with the project early. You'll look great to your would-be mentors if you ask them smart questions. Major bonus points if you submit a patch or two. Going through your first code reviews with a new Open Source project is a rite of passage in FOSS development and it's a great way to show that you are engaged with the project. Remember, your mentors want to learn more about both your strengths and weaknesses, so don't be afraid to make mistakes. They happen to the best of us. If you're trying to decide which projects may be right for you or would like to hear some advice from past participants, check out our Advice for Students page: http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforStudents We'll be letting folks know more details at the upcoming FOSDEM conference, so until then stay tuned for more details. Please bear in mind, though, that not all organizations that participated in GSoC 2008 will be returning for 2009. Take time now to explore your interests and scratch your own itch - that is what Open Source is all about! Cheers, LH -- Leslie Hawthorn Program Manager - Open Source Google Inc. http://code.google.com/opensource/ I blog here: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com - http://www.hawthornlandings.org

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Comrades’ new-found love with IT
by sandeep sr 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Comrades%E2%80%99+new-f… Finally CPM has decided to take the plunge, putting all speculations to rest. It will be really bad if things go by the way as reported. If opportunists start controlling the Free Software movement, it is very likely that it is the ideals of FS that is going to be modified more than any software under it. They can't be blamed for it, since it is quite habitual for them to reverse their announced policies as part of trying to catch up with the present, just as they did in the case of World Bank and ADB loans(to name just two). Madhyamam, a local daily today has a report by P.K Prakash that Mr. Joseph Mathew, was removed from his post as IT Advisor to the Kerala CM, as he resisted the efforts of a group from taking over FSF India. The attempts to organize a local FSF chapter in TN without the consent of the Board Members, the Kochi conference, and the latest reports ... may be the 'hijack' theory was not entirely baseless. -- Sandeep

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Fwd: [FSUG-Bangalore] linux training for chennai corpn school teachers
by Anivar Aravind 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: vinay sreenivasa <vinay(a)itforchange.net> Date: Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM Subject: [FSUG-Bangalore] linux training for chennai corpn school teachers To: Free Software Users Group - Bangalore <fsug-bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Chennai/Corporation_school_teachers_to_b… CHENNAI: School teachers of Corporation schools will soon be adept in computer operations , thanks to a new training programme launched by the civic body. "A total of 2,000 teachers from primary and middle schools will attend the training . We aim to reach 500 teachers in the first phase, of which 150 will sit for the three-day training module provided by ELCOT starting today," Corporation Mayor M Subramanian said at the launch of the initiative here on Monday. Teachers from 139 primary schools, 109 middle schools, 38 high schools and 29 higher secondary schools will be covered by the programme. A sum of Rs 50 lakh has been spent on the initiative. "As a policy, ELCOT has been promoting open source software and we use Linux in our operations for word processing, spreadsheets and so on. It might be a little difficult for those who are used to Windows to operate on Linux but we are assuming that the teachers we train do not know how to work on computers. For every computer we purchase, we estimate an amount of Rs 2,500 to take care of the training," Santhosh Babu, managing director, ELCOT, said. In a bid to better the infrastructure at schools, the Corporation has procured 844 computers at a cost of Rs 2.3 crore, which will be distributed by local administration minister M K Stalin, Mayor Subramanian said. A total of 804 teachers who helped achieve 100% result among students of classes X and XII will be given a cash incentive of Rs 4,42,000 in total, he added. CHENNAI: School teachers of Corporation schools will soon be adept in computer operations , thanks to a new training programme launched by the civic body. "A total of 2,000 teachers from primary and middle schools will attend the training . We aim to reach 500 teachers in the first phase, of which 150 will sit for the three-day training module provided by ELCOT starting today," Corporation Mayor M Subramanian said at the launch of the initiative here on Monday. Teachers from 139 primary schools, 109 middle schools, 38 high schools and 29 higher secondary schools will be covered by the programme. A sum of Rs 50 lakh has been spent on the initiative. "As a policy, ELCOT has been promoting open source software and we use Linux in our operations for word processing, spreadsheets and so on. It might be a little difficult for those who are used to Windows to operate on Linux but we are assuming that the teachers we train do not know how to work on computers. For every computer we purchase, we estimate an amount of Rs 2,500 to take care of the training," Santhosh Babu, managing director, ELCOT, said. In a bid to better the infrastructure at schools, the Corporation has procured 844 computers at a cost of Rs 2.3 crore, which will be distributed by local administration minister M K Stalin, Mayor Subramanian said. A total of 804 teachers who helped achieve 100% result among students of classes X and XII will be given a cash incentive of Rs 4,42,000 in total, he added. -- Vinay Sreenivasa IT for Change 91-98805-95032 vinay(a)itforchange.net http://itforchange.net http://india.is-watch.net/ http://is-watch.net _______________________________________________ FSUG-Bangalore mailing list FSUG-Bangalore(a)mm.gnu.org.in http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsug-bangalore -- Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown Free Software industry because it creates the basis for future jobs. Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at McDonalds.

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FOSSMeet @ MEC
by Sarath Lakshman | ശരത്ത് ലക് ഷ്മണ് 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Hi! Model Engineering College, Kochi is proud to present to you FOSSMEET @ MEC (http://mec.fossmeet.in), the Free and Open Source Software meet on January 25th, 2008 (Sunday) at our college campus. The FOSSMEET @ MEC is part of the annual techno-management symposium of Model Engineering College, Kochi - eXcel 2K9. Some of the keynote speakers at this event include: * Atul Chitnis - Atul is the Chairman and founder of FOSS.IN, one of Asia's biggest FOSS conference communities. He is also the Senior VP of Geodesic Information Systems Ltd. * Shreyas Srinivasan - Shreyas is an active contributor to the GNOME project. He is one of those people who has dedicated his life for increased contribution to FOSS. He is also the co-founder of RadioVeRVe, an internet radio company. * Santhosh Thottingal - Santhosh is a GNU enthusiast and has made several contributions to Malayalam language computing. Santhosh is the developer of Dhvani TTS and also the project admin of Swathantra Malayalam Computing. For details regarding registration, and more info about the event, please visit http://mec.fossmeet.in We hope to see you at FOSSMEET @ MEC. Best Regards, FOSSMEET @ MEC team

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Microsoft intervenes to put Chinese software lovers in jail
by ck raju 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > not only jails even some people minds also in horrible condition ( i > meant we have people have so much feedom that they are not bothered > about some freedoms which they are neglecting to think about/ ofcourse > we cant blame for those who do not know at all for the first time ) On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Praveen A <pravi.a(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I was referring to past instances where party has branded people who > spoke against it. CIA spy, Media Syndicate ... to list a few. The Microsoft Press report: "..The Futian People's Court in Shenzhen, China, handed down sentences to 11 ringleaders of the world's largest software counterfeiting syndicate today... The 11 accused were part of a criminal syndicate responsible for manufacturing and distributing more than an estimated $2 billion (U.S.) worth of high-quality counterfeit Microsoft software..." =========== I was wondering about the use of term "syndicate" by Microsoft Press. I won't be surprised if the one who helped Microsoft to edit this report happens to be a "fat sheep" from Red-mon-d HQs in Thiruvananthapuram - whose services have been hired !! CK Raju

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Microsoft intervenes to put Chinese software lovers in jail
by ck raju 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

The Futian People's Court in Shenzhen, China, handed down sentences to 11 ringleaders of the world's largest software counterfeiting syndicate today. The sentences, ranging from 1.5 to 6.5 years, include the longest sentences handed down for this type of crime in China's history. Microsoft and hundreds of Microsoft customers and partners also provided information which assisted in the investigation. The 11 accused were part of a criminal syndicate responsible for manufacturing and distributing more than an estimated $2 billion (U.S.) worth of high-quality counterfeit Microsoft software. The counterfeit software, found in 36 countries and on five continents, contained fake versions of 19 of Microsoft's most popular products and was produced in at least 11 languages. "Microsoft greatly appreciates the work of China's PSB and the FBI in taking strong enforcement action against this global software counterfeiting syndicate," said David Finn, associate general counsel for Worldwide Anti-Piracy and Anti-Counterfeiting at Microsoft. ------------------- Full story at http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/dec08/12-31ChinaSentencingPR.… ========= Indian jails are in horrible condition. Everybody there want to get out on bail as fast as possible. Nobody is interested to go there. Lets continue with Free Software, experience "high-quality original" software, enjoy our freedom and deny Microsoft lovers from taking centrestage of our lives. CK Raju

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Comradesâ new-found love with
by Maxin John 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Hi Justin, I usually don't fall prey to the "Flame wars" strategy though I enjoy that most when it is related to technology like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanenbaum-Torvalds_debate >Maxin another way of saying your opinion would have been to refer to >this: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Justin, Thank for the new word "Ad_hominem". Frankly speaking, I wasn't aware of this word till you pointed out. Justin, one more thing.. I am not a politically biased person. I consider myself free from Politics, religion and above all, America ( I have the freedom to believe so, I guess) When I was 12 years old, I have participated in a Rally conducted by the Left wing people of Department of Telecommunications (My father works with BSNL and believes in the Left wing till MVR left the party). Then our slogan was: "One computer will replace 10 workers. So prevent the computerisation in National Level ". I still remember me happily moving along with the crowd with my father with a red flag in my left hand :) If we were successful then, now we won't have to write these mails supporting freedom and GNU/Linux. Justin, if you still have some more patience left in your mind, please read what communist party thinks about freedom : Tiananmen square: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989 About Stalin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge Though I am not a member of FSF,I still don't think Stallman's view of freedom includes "Freedom to Kill" See this link: It is funny.. http://copyfight.corante.com/archives/2005/02/15/the_one_where_richard _stallman_calls_bill_gates_a_communist.php Happy Hacking.. Thanks and Regards, Maxin B. John

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Comradesâ new-found love with
by Maxin John 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

Hi Vikram, >Where do you get your funding for such activites? CIA? The above line is a pretty old "Cammu" way of diverting the attention of people from the core of the issue and tarnish the person who shows some guts to talk against the "Mighty communists".. Grow up man... and get well soon... Regards, Maxin B. John

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Re: [Fsf-friends] Comrades’ new-found love with IT
by Anivar Aravind 06 Jan '09

06 Jan '09

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:48 AM, കേരളീയന്‍ भारतीयन <keraleean(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2009/1/5 Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind(a)gmail.com> >> >> Also you already raised that CPIM is more concerned about Free >> Software than FSM, If this is true I request you to Organise newly >> Trained DYFI cadre & CPIM people to Mobilise a Protest against M$ >> promoting initiatives like Kerala Taxes > > Definitely, I hope it will be done. The responsible persons will definitely > do it, not me. Please be cooperate with them. Please Post the info & details if you are doing a protest and Ask your Leaders to make it inclusive. Free Software Communities in Kerala will support for any protest against against These kind of Proprietary initiatives. Also we can Offer help in Drafting the technical arguments. Posting the details in Local User group is enough. I am ccing FSUG-TVM List. It will be good if you can share the details of "responsible people" we can contact. Anivar Anivar -- Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown Free Software industry because it creates the basis for future jobs. Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at McDonalds.

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