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Modem
by Vijay Stevens 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

What is the option I have to include in the Modem files to make the modem dial without waiting for the dial tone? Vijay

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Q u a s i 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

At 06:53 PM 11/6/01 +0530, you wrote: >On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Sandeep Periwal <yahoo> wrote: > > > True Philip I agree, but I think if some folks can volunter, may be > > we can do a pilot with one shcool, and if successful add more. May > > be I am too optimistic !! what does ur experience say. > >Well, schools follow a strict syllabus that is not open to >experimentation like colleges are. So that is a real problem. > >Philip Apart from this I doubt that a lot of schools have many computers and free access for students. Computers _may_ be some optional course in some school, but most of the schools have a small lab with a few computers. The thing here would be to introduce the teachers to Linux who in turn will enlighten the students. quasi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Q u a s i 07 Nov '01

07 Nov '01

At 05:28 PM 11/6/01 +0530, Philip wrote: >On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Vaibhav Arya wrote: > > > 3. Admin Desktop: Student Desktop minus EE/MechE packages, plus email > > clients, plus Line of Business apps (accounting, etc) And most important, > > Wine / DosEMU -- To be able to run existing Windows apps that they are used > > to. > >Wine/dosemu cannot run all windows apps. I'd suggest letting admin >stick with windows until these tools are mature enough. Let the college >ease into linux, and then let them ask for the change. Maybe put just >one or two admin machines with linux. > >Also, better than having separate machines for admin/students, I'd >suggest something similar to what the govt in Florida has done. They >have a single very powerful server (11GB RAM), and a separate >application server (also a lot of RAM). The server runs X clients, and >xdm I think. Then, they have several very thin clients - basically >keyboard, display and network card. These boot of a bootprom in the >netcard, connect to the server, and let the user log in directly to xdm. How many machines will be Linuxed (shifted to linux under our initiative '-) in a typical college setting? Do we really require such exotic hardware as with 11GB of ram? Could we not manage with say a P4 or Atholon dual processor with 1-2 GB or ram (with 128Mb(a)Rs.600 right now it seems possible)? And the very thin clients could be replaced with already existing P100Mhz's & 486's & such older hardware? What is happening is that many places the older machines are being neglected as they cannot comfortably run, say O2K or some such hogg software. Most importantly I suppose we must see what the machines are used primarily in college for. I think that programming (for the CS depts.), running special software (for other depts.) and creating reports and other documentation will be a primarily task. quasi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Perl in schools
by Philip S Tellis 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

This document explains how one guy taught perl to middle school students (std 4, 5, 6). http://home.mindspring.com/~djrassoc01/PoP/Pop1.html And here's the discussion on comp.lang.perl.misc: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&frame=right&th=a2fa149f2fb445bc&seekm… Read both before commenting. Philip -- /* Nobody will ever see this message :-) */ panic("Cannot initialize video hardware\n"); 2.0.38 /usr/src/linux/arch/m68k/atari/atafb.c Visit my webpage at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/ Read my writings at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/~philip/writings/ MSN philiptellis Yahoo! philiptellis AIM philiptellis ICQ 129711328

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

Thats a very good idead Vaibhav... Darshan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Darshan.Wakchaure＠lntinfotech.com 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

Hi, The agenda, sure, but what are are we upto - building Linux awareness or community? Awareness i guess will be the right approach, and leave it to the individual to carry it on further by him/herself. A small plan can be chalked out at first place, we can modify and work on it. Darshan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Modem string to skip waitfor dialtone
by Q u a s i 06 Nov '01

06 Nov '01

At 08:12 PM 11/5/01 +0530, Philip wrote: >On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Q u a s i wrote: > > > Or maybe just adding X1 may help. My modem manual says - > > X1 : Hayes Smartmodem 300 compatible responses/all CONNECT responses/blind > > dialing > > > > the blind dialing part says that it starts dialing without waiting > > for dialtone etc. This should work with most modems as most modems > > are Hayes compatible. > >Hayes compatibility does not apply to eXtended commands. These are >modem specifc. Some of them are standard, but many are implemented by >the modem manufacturer specially. That's why you have different modem >drivers for different modems. > >He will have to check his manual for the specific codes for his modem, >or ask someone else with the same mode. I beg to differ. The ATX? commands are from the basic set and hence probably applicable to all Hayes compatible modems.. The eXtended commands (for my modem) start with a '&'. quasi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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re: re: NFS problem
by Sagar Sule 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

hello all again, well as to two replies from nagarajun and juju.... first of all, no, nagarjun, i do not have a special kernel compiled for the specific client but a precompiled kernel from ltsp.org. they have a variety to choose from depending upon the network card. eg. there is one for ne2000, one for tulip, one for rtl8139 (which i am using since my client has dlink 538tx+ n/w card) there is a generic one too and i tried that one also. and juju, when i said "restart" i physically rebooted the server (where nfs is running) also rebooted the client but the problem still exists. thanx for ur help in advance regards sagar ===== When you have hit rock bottom, The only way you can go is UP! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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Preemptible Kernel Patch
by Aarjav Trivedi 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

Hi I just read some stuff on the net about the preemptible kernel patch. It seems it does increase the speed of system response for the avg user. (is that what latency means ?) Has anyone tried it ? If so where can i find it ? thanks Aarjav __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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Wat abt our Linux in Schools/Colleges initiative
by Trevor Warren 05 Nov '01

05 Nov '01

hey all u luggers........ Just last week i was conductin trainin for Novel. And guess wat, durin the trainin it just came up that novell was drawin up a game plan towards attackin schools/colleges with Netware/NDS and a whole lot of crappy s/w. I guess it's high time we got into aktion.....I hav been tryin to do my bit for the past 1.5 years at various Engineerin colleges evangelin abt Open Source. I am of the opinion lets get to it before these other guys grab the moolah outta our aldready impoverished education system. We can pick up clues from the K12 Education initiative in the U.S. Lets get started.......atleast i want to start with 1 Engineernig college all over Maharashtra every 2-3 weeks. Lets see some AKTION..... Trevor Warren ===== ( >- LINUX, It's all about CHOICE -< ) /~\ __ http://www.trevorwarren.com __ /~\ | \) / mailto: trevorwarren(a)yahoo.com \ (/ | |_|_ \ Urgent ->9820349221(a)maxtouch.co.in / / _|_| \___________________________________/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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