Hello Gnu/Linux Users,
I wanted to say that when we say ILUG in ILUG-BOM,
aren't we ignoring "GNU" ?
I think so because, it's "GNU/Linux", not the Linux kernel alone that
So ILUG should be more appropriately called IGLUG.
And so, ILUG-BOM should be IGLUG-BOM.
I maybe wrong on this since I may not know the reason for this.
If you feel I am thinking wrong, please correct me.
Saurabh Sawant. (risqer).
I finally got enough money to get a new OS. So far I've tried only
RPM based distros. I have heard only good things about Ubuntu - single
CD though based on Debian. What I want to know is after installing
Ubuntu, using the much talked about apt-get (provided I'm connected to
the net), can I get specific Debian software packages (say related to
engineering and such stuff) onto my OS ? And what about updates - how
soon will Ubuntu be deprecated vis-a-vis Debian ?
Take back the Web - Get Firefox
Rohit V. Bhute
my new year resolution:
whatever it takes, avsap must knock tally off its pedestal
translation is no problem - enough guys around to do it
tally has opted for mysql and shot themselves in the foot
avsap has tamil, telugu, gujarati and hindi - tally doesnt
indians dont like to work for free
as long as there are guys to translate, i'll do the rest
like tally, avsap is hiring:
no pay, only qualifications is a willingness to work
invoicing and inventory control modules should be up in a week
happy new year all
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Is there a personal diary like software for Linux
It should show the current day/date and time and one can write the daily
happenings/events etc in it which will be stored.
Thanks and Regards
Dear Mumbai Linuxers
May I suggest a topic for the meeting? This is to meet an urgent and
very real need of a service group that I happen to think is
particularly important to India, and Mumbai as well.
The service group is cybercafe operators. Currently, as many of you
know, cybercafes are very tiny outfits, aside from the hyped up Sifys
and Webworlds, which are just a handful.
Most of these outfits use Windows in various flavors - I hesitate to
call it MS Windows, for the simple reason that most copies are in
fact pirated and of poor quality (now, now, let's not get ;-) nasty
everyone, about the quality of the native product).
As a result, when the police get into one of their sudden spurts of
public spirit and barge into these little corner shops,
enthusiastically rounding up customers and owners indiscriminately,
while purportedly looking for offcolour downloads and spies around
every corner, they have a very easy and genuine excuse for harassment
- illegal software. The current level of hafta is around one month's
gross revenue for a small cafe, renewable whenever the local officer
concerned gets transferred and a new one comes around hungry.
So what's the solution, and how can we help?
Most of these businesses are really small, and are quite technically
unequipped to deal with issues of software and hardware. They depend
on small assemblers for their low cost machines, and this usually
means the machines come preloaded with some form of Windows OS, and
the usual slew of applications that customers want.
I don't know what cybercafe customers actually want by way of
applications, and I suspect that not many of us do either. What I am
suggesting is that we turn the LUG meet into a session where
representatives of both cybercafes and small assemblers can come,
with the objective being to make a wish-list. We need to find out
what the statistically typical hardware configuration is, what the
commonly used applications are, and to make a distro that will
install on most cybercafe machines.
This distro can be duplicated either by members for a small fee, or
turned over to the cybercafe reps at some point, or distributed
through Mumbai IT magazines, or whatever. These points need to be
worked out in consultation with the target audience ie., the owners
and the assemblers. Idea is of course ease of use for both cybercafe
owners and for the assemblers, who as you know are hardly aware that
there are any choices in OS other than Windows.
I think that although the owners are really very small businesses,
and as a group quite unorganised, we may possibly be able to create a
set of local micro-businesses for members doing this (keeping the
distros updated and uniform over time). I am thinking not just of the
task of making readymade distros, but of low cost training
(neighborhood informal training schools) for assemblers and their
If this idea sounds interesting to you all, please do offer your yeas
or nays here on the list. Dr Jitu Shah is already sensitised to this
matter, and has I understand offered the use of the C-DAC offices in
Nariman Point (capacity 60 persons seating) for a meeting on the
subject. 9 Jan sounds like a good date for such a meeting, kicking
off the new year on a very positive and socially useful manner.
I do hope that some or all of you agree.
>On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 11:49, Amish Munshi wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> Where can we have the meeting on 9th?
>> What is the agenda?
>We can do this at MET this time--around 60 of their students are likely
>to attend. Satish Mohan of Red Hat is willing to talk on Open Source
>Architecture. This talk was also given at the Calcutta LUG and around
>100 people attended.
Since the website http://www.ilug-bom.org.in is hosted on a
server at TIFR ( i think so ) , can we have an IRC server set up there so
that, there can be more interaction, fast responses and good discussions ?
As for improving the ettiquete of this mailing list , we can invite people
who make mistakes to a room at IRC and teach them the proper way. And also,
i think it will also compliment this wonderful mailing list. I request Sir
Nagarjuna to look into this.
Saurabh Sawant ! :)
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You have a great idea...! Well a year ago, I and my
friend decided to sell proxy solutions to these small
time cafe's and faced the following problems
1. The small cyber cafe's cannot afford to provide one
stand-alone machine for the proxy set-up. Normally
they set-up win/analog/free proxy on a machine and
allow users to use it during peak hours.
2. A entire GNU\Linux cyber cafe setup has the most
daunting task (others may disagree) of a browser which
supports all sites just like IE....we may agree that
IE is insecure...but most of the sites are optimised
for IE..! Opera is the best but then its paid..!
3. Cyber cafe accounting software is also needed, the
present ones are all windows based, there are a couple
of projects on freshmeat but have'nt found success
implementing them, maybe need to invest more man
4. Messengers with similiar LOOK FEEL AND
5. VOIP dialer applications to run on the OS.
There are more such avenues where the LUG can play an
immediate and active role.
1. I had got first hand reports of management students
who received Laptops with Suse loaded feeling
uncomfortable and loading WinXP in them. This hapenned
at MET too..!
2. Educating pupils in schools and colleges too can
ensure Linux Domination by 2007.
3. We had a Marketing exec who used RedHat 9.0 for a
year as a desktop but couldnt convince himself and
others for extending it, since Word docs were'nt the
same when they viewed it in OOffice.
People like me have to be blamed....i have to follow
the TALK LESS WORK MORE regimen immediately.
My new year resolution would be to act more in
spreading awareness about GNU\Linux, we have to make
life easier on GNU\Linux than on windows if we were to
ever dream of a secure.
I have succesfully helped many of my friends who are
IT managers in non-IT firms to atleast bring about a
foot in the door for GNU\Linux and can use more
contacts and reach to convince others too.
Although I'am not so sure of my work schedule next
week , i would try my level best if we can have a user
interaction and a wish list ready in the meet.
WISHING ALL LUG members A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW
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--- "Anurag" <anurag(a)hbcse.tifr.res.in> wrote:
>Guys, keep in touch with Amish. He is the CD remastering >expert.
>Amish, extract_compressed_fs works properly on Knoppix 3.6. and >there's no version mismatch with cloop either in Knoppix 3.6. >These people didn't tell which version of knoppix they're >extracting.
It'seems that there is not enough space (i.e. swap or RAM of ~1GB)
and atleast Free space of 3 to ~4 GB.
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