Linuxers December 2002

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[OT] Is your PC legal?
by Nikhil Joshi 22 Apr '03

22 Apr '03

Hi! I've observed that somehow people advocating Linux bring morality into picture. They argue about illegal (pirated) Windows and how bad it is (morally) to use one. Here is a checklist for all those paranoid about having their PC legal: (Please add to this list something that I might have missed ) 1. Is your PC or some part of it ( RAM,HDD,graphics card ) bought from grey market ? If yes you can safely assume that it is illegal. The required taxes have been evaded. 2. Do you have Mp3z on your Hard-Disk? Linux or Windows , they are completely illegal ( Why are you making MP3z if you own the CD ? If for giving it to friends then thats illegal too !). Its illegal even if you have burnt them on your CD instead of keeping them on your HDD 3. Do you have DivX/MPEG files of latest movies ? It is illegal. 4. Does your homepage/HDD have gif's. Arguably they are illegal too. (Some compression patent problems I believe) Here's my PC's status: 1. Bought from grey market. I lose the battle in first step itself ;) 2. Yep not a single mp3 on my HDD. 3. not a single MPEG/DivX 4. Dont have a homepage so no gif's created by me that are on the HDD My point: Windows user is on equal moral grounds (regarding legality of his/her PC) if a Linux user satisfies any of the criteria. There cannot be something less illegal. Either it is legal or it is not. P.S. (While I may be sounding Windows advocate let me tell you that I have only two OS'es on my PC : Linux and Dos (the command.com from the rescue disk of Windows 98, which is licensed, but not mine. I guess that's legal too as Microsoft, I guess, does not say that you must possess a legal copy of Windows 98 to use the command.com , Anywayz I use command interpreter of FreeDos) Nikhil

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could not delete directory
by Hiten Desai 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

Hi! I am trying to delete directory with the following name --(a)app.7 (which is autogenerated by amavis) but when I am trying to delete it with rm -rf command it gives me error : rm: unrecognized option '--(a)app.7' how to delete this directory ?? Please help. Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com

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disabling linux single
by Harsh R Busa 03 Feb '03

03 Feb '03

plz enlighten me about disabling linux single feature of lilo in most redhat systems thanx harsh

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nobody knows what is .sft file extention this is my third post on list
by romi jk 15 Jan '03

15 Jan '03

hi Does nobody knows what is .sft file extention.Ihave posted a couple of times for this matter but have not yet received any solutions. (i have a cd of some small linux distribution and it contains a file called elite.sft but cant open it) Rohit ------------------------------------------------- Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Sunny`s column,World Cup Schedule, Scorecards, The cricket Store and much much more!! http://www.khel.com/worldcup/

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[LIH]Are you a cyberoam 24online user? (fwd)
by Philip S Tellis 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Please Cc the OP when replying. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:07:36 +0530 From: Sandip Bhattacharya <sandip(a)linux-delhi.org> Reply-To: linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net To: ILUGD Mailing list <ilugd(a)wpaa.org>, Linux India Help <linux-india-help(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: [LIH]Are you a cyberoam 24online user? [Warning:Crossposted. Watch where you reply] Hi! 1. I wanted to know how many of the folks around here are using cyberoam 24online based cable networks. 2. If you have, what have been your experiences with using it on Linux. a. Have you asked your cable network wallah about using the network with Linux clients? b. Or, have you given up and decided to use the windows machine for accessing the Net 3. Are you still interested in finding out a way of using these networks using Linux? - Sandip -- -------------------------------------------------------- Sandip Bhattacharya sandipb <@> bigfoot.com http://www.sandipb.net GPG/PGP: 0x08EB637C --------------------------------------------------------

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The Wireless and Mobile Market Starts to Mature
by Kiran Nadgir 12 Jan '03

12 Jan '03

Read this gartner report for 2003. and particularly what it has to say abt linux. http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?ref=TechUpdate&id=378452 "Linux will not emerge as a platform to be taken seriously in 2003." ----------------------------------------------------------------- Kiran Nadgir Mahindra British Telecom. Tel : 56922000 extn - 8070. Mobile - 9820444403. Email - kirann(a)mahindrabt.com WebSite: www.mahindrabt.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Quote of the week ~~ " I'd rather regret things I've done than regret things I never got to do." Leti G. --- Texas This goes for anything in your life. I like to live by this quote. To me, it means that I need to do things I want to do, when I want to do them. I'm not going to get to live my life over again! Sure, sometimes there'll be consequences, but I'd rather say I got to do them. When I grow old and am telling my grand children and great-grand children about my life, I don't want to be wishing I'd done more! ~~ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ********************************************************* Disclaimer This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************* Visit us at http://www.mahindrabt.com

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comp.os.linux.security FAQ
by Tahir Hashmi 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Hi all! I found a good collection of security FAQ on comp.os.linux.security. Hope you find this useful: http://www.linuxsecurity.com/docs/colsfaq.html -- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed

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NEWSLETTER: GNU/LinuxIndia Dec 27, 2002
by Frederick Noronha 05 Jan '03

05 Jan '03

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Set up in 1971, primarily to promote world understanding between Indian and foreign students through education, Symbiosis has a strength of over 16,000 students from over 32 countries. Says the institution: "We in Symbiosis believe that the 'World is one Family'." The annual fest of SICSR 'Unify', is composed of various cultural, academic events & contests. This year the institution is adding on GNUnify, as their own way "of contributing and encouraging the Free Software movement". See http://www.sicsr.ac.in (to be updated by early Jan 2003) The aim of GNUnify is to unify and encourage efforts of GNU developers across the country, by "awarding the best and motivating the rest". Events will include: 1. Code-Presentations (open for all) 1.1 App Dev (Web Apps, Biz Apps, Edu Capsules) 1.2 Embedded Linux 1.3 Network Programming 1.4 Kernel Development / Device Drivers 2. Paper-Presentations (open only for students) 2.1 General (Socio-economic aspects of using GNU/Linux, Does GNU/Linux make sense for India?, and Will China get ahead of India using Free Software?) 2.2 Free Software B-Plan Contest: The major concern of most developers is that since GNU is free there is little / no money to be earned out it. To disprove this a free s/w or gnu based B-plan contest. People submit their B-plans built around free s/w. 2.3 Technical (how to use Apache, migrating from ASP to PHP, Wirel) 3. Techie-Talks (under planning... if you know of any powerful speakers from across the country, do suggest) 4. Hands-on Workshops [Under Planning] 5. Install-Fest of GNU/Linux [Debian, Redhat, Slackware, Mandrake, ...] 6. Screenings. [RMS's Public Lecture @ IIT-Mumbai & Linux-The Code Movie] Event Dates: 15 & 16 Feb 2003 E-Mail: gnunify(a)symbiosiscomputers.com NEWS FROM KERALA: Arun M <arun at freedevelopers dot net> reports that he had a recent meet with the general secretary of the KSTA, the trade union of teachers in the southern Indian state of Kerala. They're planning a meet on IT education in schools, and want experts to talk about Free Software. Meanwhile, Kerala's IT@School expert committee met and seems agreeable to the view that Free Software must be used for the project. Logistical issues of training, text books, and distribution CDs etc need to be taken up. Help is needed for rewriting the textbooks, in a way that these don't exclusively promote proprietorial software. USERS EXPO 2003: 'Linux India - National Users eXpo 2003' is packing itself as *the* national conference on GNU/Linux in India. It is scheduled between February 7 to 9, at the Marian College Kuttikkanam in Kerala. Want to present a paper? Send in an abstract via email. Organisers are keen to get presentations on kernel programming, compiler design/porting, x-windows, Linux and the computer industry, Linux security, etc. Technical partners for this event are the IPSR group. Contact ipsr at satyam dot net dot in LINUX ON AN EMBEDDED BOARD: Anand Babu <ab at gnu dot org dot in> and Mridul Jain worked extensively on porting a version of Linux kernel to SA1110-based embedded board from scratch. "We do have a complete embedded GNU/Linux system and we use it in our firewalls and system installers. I can give ...the whole system for free," says Babu. Contact him or Mridul Jain mridul.jain(a)californiadigital.com Phone in Bangalore (080) 5565570 ANJUTA 1.0.0., LATEST STABLE RELEASE: Heard of Anjuta? Its the integrated development environment initiatied by Naba Kumar and named after his girlfriend! Biswapesh Chattopadhyay <biswapesh_chatterjee at tcscal dot co dot in> recently announced that Anjuta 1.0.0 "Diwali" has been released. This is the latest stable release of Anjuta, an Integrated Development Environment (IDE) for the GNOME 1.x platform. This release includes numerous enhancements and bugfixes. Website: http://www.anjuta.org/ Project Page: http://sf.net/projects/anjuta/ Downloads: http://sf.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=14222&release_id=120396 About Diwali: http://www.bawarchi.com/festivals/diwali1.html SITEWATCH : http://gpasokan.com/demo-schools/ The Demo@Schools Project: The demo@schools project aims at demoing Free Softwares to schools and make the schools adopt free softwares as a subject of education in their syllabus. They also actively involve ourselves in encouraging children to hack free softwares and learn more. "Schools are increasingly putting efforts to impart software education to their students. We are in an attempt to make schools teach free softwares before they become dependant on non-free softwares," say the Demo@Schools promoters. SITEWATCH : http://www.ilug-cal.org The Kolkata chapter of the Indian Linux Users's group (ILUG-CAL) is a volunteer driven organisation dedicated to the propagation and usage of GNU/Linux in Kolkata, and in West Bengal. It says: "The organistion tries to provide suppport to the Linux community in Kolkata, as well as to increase the usage of GNU/Linux among the general computer users community in the city. It also organises workshops, seminars, etc for the local student community." Highlights: Sayamindu (Bangla Tux) has started a new project on Free Bangla fonts. Check out the site at http://www.nongnu.org/freebangfont/ WINDOWS... IN WEST BENGAL SCHOOLS: The West Bengal government is considering using open-source operating systems (OS) like Linux as an alternative to Microsoft Corp's Windows OS in its school computer literacy programme, and has approached hardware maker International Business Machines (IBM) to provide the system support, reports ZDNetIndia. It says the computer literacy programme will cover 11,000 schools all over the state, and the government has already bought 3000 personal computers (PCs) pre-loaded with Windows OS. http://www.zdnetindia.com/news/national/stories/nsl,70367.html GNU/LINUX IN PUNJABI? Gurupkar Waraich <waraich at linuxmail dot org> says he would like to start a new team for Punjabi localization. See punjabi-linux.sourceforge.net Says he: "Volunteers please get in touch so that we can start working." LG... LINUX GOING TO THE DESKTOP: LG Electronics India recently announced its decision to launch branded GNU/Linux-based PCs in India. In a stagnant market, will LG's attempt to break into the branded PC market succeed? Srikanth R P reports in Express Computer on LG's move to extend Linux to the desktop. R Manikandan says the Linux OS is not only relatively stable and bug-free, but also offers stronger memory management to the end-customer http://www.express-computer.com/20021125/newsan1.shtml ********************************************************************* See http://linux-bangalore.org for slide presentations of speakers at LinuxBangalore/2002 and also photographs of the event. ************** ********************************************************************* STORY FROM INDIA'S NEIGHBOURHOOD: Video Whale Project grew out of the concept of Umer Anwar Sheikh and was developed by Zeeshan Ali Khattak (zak147(AT)yahoo.com) The video-whale project is an implementation of video-wall which exploits the combined power of Gstreamer (www.gstreamer.net) & Xinerama. Says the team: "We plan on using these videowalls in Pakistani universties and schools to let them quickly set up videowalls for use in the classrooms when need be. Anyone interested in the videowalls on a commercial basis is also of course welcome to contact us."http://www.gstreamer.net/apps/vw/ PROPRIETORY SOFTWARE: Amol Hatwar <rollacosta at phreaker dot net> drew our attention to the story at http://rediff.com/money/2002/nov/13gates.htm This is about the Govt. of Karnataka and Microsoft signing an MoU for a portal called Bangalore One. r_dobhal at mailandnews dot com came up with this idea: "Why not mark a "Free Software" Day? Inorder to express your views please visit www.software-freedom.org" SPEECH SYNTHESIS: Rohit Kumar of the Speech Processing Lab, LTRC at IIIT Hyderabad points to a speech synthesis demo at http://196.12.44.11/~speech/index.htm Says he: "I look forward to your responses both about the speech quality and the ease of use and understandability of the web interface. PS: For all [GNU/]/Linux enthusiasts the speech synthesizer is currently built on Red Hat Linux 7.2 and we have tested it with RHL 8.0." 61 LUGs ACROSS INDIA: National network LinuxIndia points to the existence of nearly 61 LUGs across India (see below). If this is true, then=20 we have more LUGs in India than what the international press is reporting as being present in the whole of Asia! Does anyone know of any unlisted LUGs? Or have some on this list gone inactive? http://www.linux-india.org/chapters.html Guntupalli Karunakar <karunakar at freedomink dot org> and Arun Sharma <arun at sharma-home dot net> point out that Pramod R has created some screenshots of Gnome applications in Kannada. http://kannada.sourceforge.net/gnome-screens/screenshots.html Raghavendra <yesgr at vsnl dot com> points out the need to draw the attention of others in the Kannada computing world. Says he: "You can also do a demo on setting up the locale, installing the font, show off the translations, setup gtranslator/poedit, etc." The Kannada mailing list is at http://www.sharma-home.net/mailman/listinfo/kannada Meanwhile the Indic-Computing project is at indic-computing.sf.net Want a set of the latest Debian and Knoppix CDs? Contact ragu(a)vsnl.com Some of Raghavendra Bhat's other involvements are in the FSUG-Kochi http://symonds.net/~fsug-kochi/ *************************************** UPCOMING MEETS Mumbai * LUG Meet on 12 Jan. 2003 @ VJTI *************************************** Sajith T S <sajith(a)symonds.net> announces a JFS translator for the Hurd, and calls it "the first industrial-strength journaling filesystem for the Hurd". It's a readonly translator, so no journaling for now. See http://www.symonds.net/~sajith/hurd/ More on JFS here: http://oss.software.ibm.com/jfs/ AN OPEN SOURCE BUSINESS MODEL: Dr Tarique Sani <tarique at sanisoft dot com> has published SANIsoft's Open Source Business Model on his site. See http://www.sanisoft.com/openmodel.php Says he: "Feedback from you will be very much appreciated." SOME FEEDBACK TO GNU/LinuxINDIA NEWSLETTER: From: Arun Sharma <arun(a)sharma-home.net> I understand that you can't fit an ASCII art logo mentioning "GNU/Linux India" in 80 columns, and hence had to abbreviate "Linux" part a little bit. But given all the controversy about the term "GNU/Linux", I find the above logo in bad taste -- it almost seems like you're posting about "GNU India", when in fact, the message is about what I'd normally call "Linux". I'm sure you could design a logo that displays "Linux" more prominently.-Arun From amish_munshi(a)sify.com Fri Dec 27 17:07:26 2002 Can you change this artwork, it is not readable. I am very bad at art work, so I can not provide any artwork, sorry. Overall, it is the best newsletter I have ever got, very well made. Keep it up. How regularly will I be getting such rich content? From paivakil(a)vsnl.net Fri Dec 27 17:08:37 2002 Wow!!!! What a beautiful logo!!! -- Mahesh T. Pai. INDIAN-LANGUAGE SOLUTIONS FROM PIONEERS AT IIT-MADRAS: Dr Hema A Murthy <hema at lantana dot tenet dot res dot in>, associate professor at the IIT Madras (Chennai) is one of the two coordinators of the IndLinux effort, along with Timothy A Gonsalves <tag at tenet dot res dot in>. You can also contact indlinux at tenet dot res dot in for information. She recently wrote in to point to some of the shortcomings in an article written recently. Our apologies for an inadequate representation; we have no excuse other than the general difficulties in garnering information across a virtual sub-continent, largely depending on e-mail. Says Dr Murthy: "Currently, the TeNeT group is involved in the wide scale deployment of Internet kiosks across the countryside. The kiosks require local language software so that they can be effectively used by the marginalised literate population of our country." We are grateful for the explanation below to Dr Murthy: Given the number of Indian languages and different encoding standards and fonts they use, it was felt that we need to develop Indian language support that is essentially independent of encoding and font. Further, we felt that this support must be provided at the kernel/X-Window system levels so that applications that run on top of the kernel/X-Window system inherit the interface. To this end we provide two different solutions under linux: kernel based and X-Window based. Kernel based solution: Indian languages have variable width characters. To support variable width at the kernel level, a multiglyph approach is proposed, i.e. a keystroke may correspond to one or more glyphs. Further, the number of keystrokes possible on the standard QWERTY keyboard is not sufficient to represent all characters and character clusters in any given language. This results in the problem that a sequences of keys may correspond to different glyphs (in that a key sequence ab might correspond to a glyph g1, while a key sequence abc might correspond to a different glyph g2). This requires that the system has a memory of the keystrokes that have been made. To address this problem a finite state machine and a set of associated rules was introduced in the kernel. X-Window based solution: Two different solutions are supported at the X-Window level, namely, glyph based and encoding based. In the first approach, similar to that of the kernel, the parsing is done on the input side, while glyphs are produced on the output side (file/display). In this approach, clearly the system is tied to the font that is used. To overcome this problem, an encoding based solution has also been provided. The problem with this approach is in cursor positioning. The position of the cursor is maintained by the application which interacts with X to obtain the widths of characters. The cursor is positioned based on the keys typed (no memory/context sensitivity is assumed). We are yet to address this problem. We do feel that the only solution available to us is to provide a set of cursor APIs in X which can be used by any application. In either solution, the language dependent information is provided in parse rule tables. This information is loaded at runtime. This ensures that changing the local language environment is simply a question of manipulating parse rule tables. Applications: The solutions that we have provided enable a user to type in a local language in most applications (Open Office/ KOffice/gcc...). We have further customised some of the applications (menus/errors in local languages), namely, KOffice, Konqueror, gcc, pine, emacs. We are currently working on customising Open Office. We are also working on a convertor from fonts to encoding, fonts to fonts, encoding to font. Current Support: Tamil (Glyph-based) - TamilNet99, Inscript Hindi (Glyph-based) - Inscript Tamil (Encoding-based) - ISCII Hindi (Encoding-based) - ISCII The above supports are complete. (This simply means that we have populated the appropriate language dependent parse rule files). We are currently working on Malayalam, Oriya, Marathi and Gujarathi. Future Plans: This work is part of a major plan to develop a multimodal interface to the computer. By multimodal, we mean, handwriting, keyboard and speech interfaces. We have started work on both handwriting and speech. We have developed a handwriting interface for Tamil and have developed speech technology software for: speech synthesis in Hindi, Tamil, Telugu and Malayalam (Malayalam database was obtained from ISDL, Trivandrum); spoken language identification, syllable-based recognition of continuous speech, speaker identification. (ENDS) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- YOUR INPUTS to this newsletter are welcome. Volunteers more than welcome. Contact us at fred at bytesforall dot org --COPYLEFT 2002, GPL. May be freely circulated provided entire text is retained. FN --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[ILUG-BOM]Linux swap not working.
by The Linuxer 02 Jan '03

02 Jan '03

Hello, I use a P4 based machine running SuSE Linux 8.0. I have a 20 GB Hard Disk & 256 MB RDRAM. At the time of installation, I reserved around 500 MB space for the /swap directory. As intended, it should share memory with the Linux Swap space. The problem is that, when I issue the top command, it shows that used swap space is zero & my Physical Memory is 70% used. I think it's pretty high since I don't use any software which is heavy on system requirments. I tried the swapon command but in vain. Even eding the /etc/fstab file didn't help. Is there any way to force swapping of memory ?? Please enlighten .... Thanx in advance ... Bhaskar Ghose [The Linuxer] ================== Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer. ~thelinuxer(a)hotmail.com~ _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=74… http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamp…

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Help sought for ACCESS like software in Linux
by jayaram shastri 31 Dec '02

31 Dec '02

wanted help/info about how to run (access like software) under linux using star office. currently the aplication runs under win98/MS Access . I wold like to migrate to linux. pls help. j d shastri __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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