Firstly, may I know what is your ultimate aim? :-)
>> I tried the above but now when i try to ping www.google.com
>> ping: unknown host www.google.com is what i get.
Make sure there is a DNS server that is reachable from your machine.
The best way would be to run BIND as a caching DNS server ('# service
bind start' for Red Hat systems) on the machine running the proxy
server, and configure your machine to use this as the primary DNS (use
To confirm that this actually works do:
$ nslookup gnu.org
on your own machine.
[ If you can not have a DNS then try:
$ ping 184.108.40.206
If this fails, then read on.]
Next, make sure you have a gateway that actually forwards the packet
from your subnet to the outside world. I have had experience using a
'gateway' which never forwarded anything, so make sure that the
sysadmin is not lying and the gateway is actually forwarding the
Checking this is a bit dicey, and depends if there is any firewall
that is blocking traffic bound to specific ports and so on. Here are a
few things you can try:
1. $ ping google.com
2. Try using an email client like Mutt, Thunderbird, KMail and see if
you can send and receive mail or not. If the SMTP and/or POP3 traffic
is blocked this would not work.
3. Disable the proxy in the Web browser (eg., Firefox), and try to
visit any site. Again if port 80 or 443 traffic is being blocked or
not forwarded, this would not work.
4. Try using Gaim. Do not set any proxy, and try to log into Yahoo!,
Jabber, or IRC.
5. Try SSH, without using any HTTP proxy tunnelling tool (like
Corkscrew). If you have not heard about tunnelling, then most likely
you do not have a any such tool. Just do something like:
$ ssh foo(a)external.server
Knowing your ultimate aim would have been helpful.
GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7
Key server: pgp.mit.edu
Hi. I'll be in Mumbai between 4/2 and 4/9. If you're having a
meeting then, or want to arrange one, I can speak on various topics,
like Open Source licensing, or Politics and Technology of the DNS.
I can also bring my One Laptop Per Child XO machine. It's a way cool
piece of hardware.
I'm consulting for Rediff.com, so I'll be busy all day. I can
probably get away by 7 (they work me hard), and the office is in Mahim
I'm leaving in about 41 hours, so act promptly!
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I thought of a few issues on my way back home.
Firstly, if you want to edit stuff like nvram settings or anything else not
available in the GUI, its apparently done via the /etc/local.* files. The
DHCP server configuration for example, was done in /etc/local.udhcpd.conf or
something similar. Just something to keep in mind before hacking the init
Secondly, I read this: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3626#page-51
The cron script that was edited to prevent the default gw route loss
(/usr/sbin/cron.minutely original at /usr/sbin/cron.minutely.orig) could have
been trying to achieve this: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3626#page-54
Please run a diff to make sure. But I don't think it should be kept the way it
is in the original file either.
Another thing. If it is necessary to find out exactly which node assigned the
ip to the client, in case of multiple DHCP servers, maybe interface aliases
can be used to define two different subnets. Run DHCP server on the aliases
to lease ips in two different subnets.
Also, apparently OLSR traffic happens on UDP port 698.
GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8
Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net
I had a talk with Dr. Nagarjuna about the wireless gnu/linux download
idea and it was decided that it should not be restricted to downloads of
CD isos alone but it should be a wireless resource hub that will allow
anyone to freely access the knowledge base with no internet
restrictions. It should be installed in schools, colleges and other
public places in the villages and towns all over India. It will act as a
free knowledge and information hub. People can simply access whatever
information they are looking for and for those who don't have laptops,
they can simply walk into a knowledge cafe and save their required data
on a recording media.
As a technology demonstrator, at the HBCSE, the plan is to setup a local
wireless mesh of multiple APs that will provide a wide access range and
then install the server that will provide the data to be freely
downloaded. The process will be documented so that it can be emulated in
other schools and colleges.
The day for setup will be a Saturday and timing will be after 5.30 pm,
next week. So we need 2 to 3 people to help in setting it up. Once it is
setup, we can have a session where everyone bring their laptops to do
the downloads. Those who don't want to bring a laptop can bring blank
cds that can be recorded during the session.
Those who are interested in contributing their time for this workshop
may contact me off-list.
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What you can do to help the Konkani Wikipedia:
* Translate articles of relevance to Goa, and to generally building
the body of knowledge in Konkani. There are tonnes of copyright-free
articles which you can translate into Konkani at
http://en.wikipedia.org This is specially suited for people with
linguistic and translation skills (whatever script).
* Play around with the Wikipedia and see how it works. It's not
complex. The starting point is to create a login for yourself. Then,
everything follows. This is specially suited for tech people. But
don't believe it's a complicated tech job!
* Build awareness about the attempt to build the Konkani Wikipedia,
and tell others about it. It will only work if there is enough
"critical mass" and interest around it.
* Above all, promote the language of your choice (any script!) using
this tool of the 21st century. It's a powerful tool, so let's make use
* http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kok (Konkani Wikipedia/incubator)
* http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kok/contributors List
yourself as a contributor
* http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/kok (See Deepak's
tutorial on Devanagari)
The best thing here is: you can promote any script you want via the
Konkani Wikipedia. Romi, Devanagari, Kannada (and I guess even
Malayalam or Perso-Arabic). So instead of clashing swords, let's
sharpen our pens, and increase the amount of sharable Konkani
information in cyberspace. The Wikipedia (for a number of reasons) is
a great place to do it. And all this knowledge becomes sharable.
A special thanks to Deepak D'Souza for his persistence, Sangeeta Naik
(SangeetaDiwar) for persistently working on it, Isidore Dantas for his
meticulous Konkani translations from Mumbai, and Equinox for signing
up as one of the early contributors.
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Konkani Wikipedia (under incubation) needs your help!
--- Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On 31-Mar-07, at 1:28 PM, Nagarjuna G. wrote:
> >> pro or anti is irrelevant - since doze is not
> open source, we cant
> >> do anything about defects. So why waste our time
> complaining about
> >> it? If you have paid for vista and cant compile
> something this
> >> list is not the place to complain ...
> > It is clearly a matter of concern if free software
> like firefox,
> > openoffice, GIMP, inkscape, blender etc are
> compiled for Vista, and
> > if they don't take full advantage of the system
> due to restriction
> > of the OS. User's will assume that free software
> works less
> > efficiently, without understanding that the cause
> is due to their
> > digital restrictions management. Let us remember
> that most of free
> > software today is inter operable, except of course
> the kernel Linux.
> agreed - so what can this list do about it?
> Especialy as probably
> vista was designed with this idea in mind. As i said
> originally -
> dont worry, just migrate to linux.
I trust your remark is rhetorical. There is PLENTY a
list like this can do, being vibrant and full of aware
people as well as people who lurk to learn.
You can work with the cybercafe initiative (which is a
brilliant and practical idea, and having watched it
emerge from the discussions over the past couple of
weeks, I really applaud the consensual method) to
create a working distro that addresses the needs of
tomorrow's computer users, unlike the bloatware that
is increasingly irrelevant and inherently expensive to
use, and that never succeeds in emerging productively
from the morass of contraditictions that is the DRM
You can work with each other (all of us) to create
better installers, that deliver not just simpler
install routines but also address the mix of h/w and
peripherals in the real world.
You can help put together a visual platform (qua Aqua)
that will deliver designs that match anything that
comes from the Mac world (the only competition, as far
as this aspect is concerned, IMHO Vista is so far
behind, you wonder - well, I wonder - whether they
even know what visual delight means).
And then there's work pending on a FOSS mobile
interface to deliver the announced features of the
iPhone for an Indian audience (localised, the works) -
that will run on any Linux-enabled mobile box.
In the legal playing field, the FOSS movement in India
doesn't have the kind of groundswell 'critical mass'
to pursue court battles against restrictive practices
such as the unsigned pamphlet the Bombay Police put
out for cybercafes. We need to identify the root
causes of this apathy (ie, it is awareness? is it
funding?) and address them in a structured manner. As
we all know, there are many more restrictive practices
in place that make it difficult for ordinary users to
We need to find a way of placing people in key
organisations in the civil society movement (many of
these organisations pay quite well, actually, and
prefer persons who have an all-round approach to work,
rather than tightly focused on, say, being a sysad
24/7). Such people will play a key role in bring such
organisations directly into the FOSS movement. We also
need to make visible persons who work in medium and
large commercial organsations to come and talk - at
LUG meets, for instance - on the use of FOSS in their
Just some food for thought. If some or all of these
things begin to happen, you can be sure that the
developers in the 'doze world will think twice about
letting restrictive software out into the real world.
I just saw Nagarjuna's post about being at HBSCE all
of today, and must say, talk about communication gap,
I didn't notice ANY post from anyone saying the venue
would be available all day. I could easily have been
there earlier, but am now committed to only getting
there in the evening.
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> As the subject line says, Prof. CN Krishnan of NRCFOSS, Chennai is also to
> in Mumbai on the 5th of April. Can we have a meet in the evening on 5th?
> it'll need to be after around 6 pm.
If it's on 4/8 after 5:30 pm,I might be able to attend my first LUG
meet.Pleaaase! :)And BTW,what is the location?