Linuxers March 2007

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] bash proxy settings
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 09 Apr '07

09 Apr '07

Firstly, may I know what is your ultimate aim? :-) >> I tried the above but now when i try to ping www.google.com >> ping: unknown host www.google.com is what i get. Make sure there is a DNS server that is reachable from your machine. The best way would be to run BIND as a caching DNS server ('# service bind start' for Red Hat systems) on the machine running the proxy server, and configure your machine to use this as the primary DNS (use /etc/resolv.conf). To confirm that this actually works do: $ nslookup gnu.org on your own machine. [ If you can not have a DNS then try: $ ping 199.232.41.10 If this fails, then read on.] Next, make sure you have a gateway that actually forwards the packet from your subnet to the outside world. I have had experience using a 'gateway' which never forwarded anything, so make sure that the sysadmin is not lying and the gateway is actually forwarding the traffic. Checking this is a bit dicey, and depends if there is any firewall that is blocking traffic bound to specific ports and so on. Here are a few things you can try: 1. $ ping google.com 2. Try using an email client like Mutt, Thunderbird, KMail and see if you can send and receive mail or not. If the SMTP and/or POP3 traffic is blocked this would not work. 3. Disable the proxy in the Web browser (eg., Firefox), and try to visit any site. Again if port 80 or 443 traffic is being blocked or not forwarded, this would not work. 4. Try using Gaim. Do not set any proxy, and try to log into Yahoo!, Jabber, or IRC. 5. Try SSH, without using any HTTP proxy tunnelling tool (like Corkscrew). If you have not heard about tunnelling, then most likely you do not have a any such tool. Just do something like: $ ssh foo(a)external.server Knowing your ultimate aim would have been helpful. Regards, Debarshi -- GPG key ID: 63D4A5A7 Key server: pgp.mit.edu

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Windows Vista restricts GNU GCC apps to 32 MB
by Baishampayan Ghose 05 Apr '07

05 Apr '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Extremely odd --- http://www.trnicely.net/misc/vista.html BG - -- Baishampayan Ghose <b.ghose(a)ubuntu.com> Ubuntu -- Linux for Human Beings http://www.ubuntu.com/ 1024D/86361B74 BB2C E244 15AD 05C5 523A 90E7 4249 3494 8636 1B74 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGDe7MQkk0lIY2G3QRAkZKAKCLq7ufPykBie/jRR9SDQ8JKXUzpQCfddyd HkLRzStE0IhlUO6rkoTFUAM= =SCuz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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LUG meeting btwn 4/2 and 4/9?
by Russ Nelson 05 Apr '07

05 Apr '07

Hi. I'll be in Mumbai between 4/2 and 4/9. If you're having a meeting then, or want to arrange one, I can speak on various topics, like Open Source licensing, or Politics and Technology of the DNS. I can also bring my One Laptop Per Child XO machine. It's a way cool piece of hardware. I'm consulting for Rediff.com, so I'll be busy all day. I can probably get away by 7 (they work me hard), and the office is in Mahim West. I'm leaving in about 41 hours, so act promptly! -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com | You can do any damn thing Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | you want, as long as you 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-323-1241 | don't expect somebody else Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog | to pick up the pieces.

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OLSR @ HBCSE
by Mrugesh Karnik 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

Hello guys, I thought of a few issues on my way back home. Firstly, if you want to edit stuff like nvram settings or anything else not available in the GUI, its apparently done via the /etc/local.* files. The DHCP server configuration for example, was done in /etc/local.udhcpd.conf or something similar. Just something to keep in mind before hacking the init scripts. Secondly, I read this: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3626#page-51 The cron script that was edited to prevent the default gw route loss (/usr/sbin/cron.minutely original at /usr/sbin/cron.minutely.orig) could have been trying to achieve this: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3626#page-54 Please run a diff to make sure. But I don't think it should be kept the way it is in the original file either. Another thing. If it is necessary to find out exactly which node assigned the ip to the client, in case of multiple DHCP servers, maybe interface aliases can be used to define two different subnets. Run DHCP server on the aliases to lease ips in two different subnets. Also, apparently OLSR traffic happens on UDP port 698. Regards. -- ---------------------------------------- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net ----------------------------------------

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Wireless Workshop at HBCSE
by Rony 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

Hello All, I had a talk with Dr. Nagarjuna about the wireless gnu/linux download idea and it was decided that it should not be restricted to downloads of CD isos alone but it should be a wireless resource hub that will allow anyone to freely access the knowledge base with no internet restrictions. It should be installed in schools, colleges and other public places in the villages and towns all over India. It will act as a free knowledge and information hub. People can simply access whatever information they are looking for and for those who don't have laptops, they can simply walk into a knowledge cafe and save their required data on a recording media. As a technology demonstrator, at the HBCSE, the plan is to setup a local wireless mesh of multiple APs that will provide a wide access range and then install the server that will provide the data to be freely downloaded. The process will be documented so that it can be emulated in other schools and colleges. The day for setup will be a Saturday and timing will be after 5.30 pm, next week. So we need 2 to 3 people to help in setting it up. Once it is setup, we can have a session where everyone bring their laptops to do the downloads. Those who don't want to bring a laptop can bring blank cds that can be recorded during the session. Those who are interested in contributing their time for this workshop may contact me off-list. -- Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Debian Etch DVD's request
by Roshan 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

Hello List, If someone can help nukeu666 with Debian Etch DVD's, please do so. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/CDs_Wanted -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC - http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Debian Etch DVD's request
by Roshan 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

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OFFTOPIC: Konkani Wikipedia (under incubation) needs your help!
by Frederick Noronha 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

What you can do to help the Konkani Wikipedia: * Translate articles of relevance to Goa, and to generally building the body of knowledge in Konkani. There are tonnes of copyright-free articles which you can translate into Konkani at http://en.wikipedia.org This is specially suited for people with linguistic and translation skills (whatever script). * Play around with the Wikipedia and see how it works. It's not complex. The starting point is to create a login for yourself. Then, everything follows. This is specially suited for tech people. But don't believe it's a complicated tech job! * Build awareness about the attempt to build the Konkani Wikipedia, and tell others about it. It will only work if there is enough "critical mass" and interest around it. * Above all, promote the language of your choice (any script!) using this tool of the 21st century. It's a powerful tool, so let's make use of it. Starting points: * http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kok (Konkani Wikipedia/incubator) * http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kok/contributors List yourself as a contributor * http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/kok (See Deepak's tutorial on Devanagari) The best thing here is: you can promote any script you want via the Konkani Wikipedia. Romi, Devanagari, Kannada (and I guess even Malayalam or Perso-Arabic). So instead of clashing swords, let's sharpen our pens, and increase the amount of sharable Konkani information in cyberspace. The Wikipedia (for a number of reasons) is a great place to do it. And all this knowledge becomes sharable. A special thanks to Deepak D'Souza for his persistence, Sangeeta Naik (SangeetaDiwar) for persistently working on it, Isidore Dantas for his meticulous Konkani translations from Mumbai, and Equinox for signing up as one of the early contributors. FN -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Konkani Wikipedia (under incubation) needs your help! http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kok

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Windows Vista restricts GNU GCC apps to 32 MB
by Vickram Crishna 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

--- Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On 31-Mar-07, at 1:28 PM, Nagarjuna G. wrote: > > >> pro or anti is irrelevant - since doze is not > open source, we cant > >> do anything about defects. So why waste our time > complaining about > >> it? If you have paid for vista and cant compile > something this > >> list is not the place to complain ... > > > > It is clearly a matter of concern if free software > like firefox, > > openoffice, GIMP, inkscape, blender etc are > compiled for Vista, and > > if they don't take full advantage of the system > due to restriction > > of the OS. User's will assume that free software > works less > > efficiently, without understanding that the cause > is due to their > > digital restrictions management. Let us remember > that most of free > > software today is inter operable, except of course > the kernel Linux. > > agreed - so what can this list do about it? > Especialy as probably > vista was designed with this idea in mind. As i said > originally - > dont worry, just migrate to linux. I trust your remark is rhetorical. There is PLENTY a list like this can do, being vibrant and full of aware people as well as people who lurk to learn. You can work with the cybercafe initiative (which is a brilliant and practical idea, and having watched it emerge from the discussions over the past couple of weeks, I really applaud the consensual method) to create a working distro that addresses the needs of tomorrow's computer users, unlike the bloatware that is increasingly irrelevant and inherently expensive to use, and that never succeeds in emerging productively from the morass of contraditictions that is the DRM world. You can work with each other (all of us) to create better installers, that deliver not just simpler install routines but also address the mix of h/w and peripherals in the real world. You can help put together a visual platform (qua Aqua) that will deliver designs that match anything that comes from the Mac world (the only competition, as far as this aspect is concerned, IMHO Vista is so far behind, you wonder - well, I wonder - whether they even know what visual delight means). And then there's work pending on a FOSS mobile interface to deliver the announced features of the iPhone for an Indian audience (localised, the works) - that will run on any Linux-enabled mobile box. In the legal playing field, the FOSS movement in India doesn't have the kind of groundswell 'critical mass' to pursue court battles against restrictive practices such as the unsigned pamphlet the Bombay Police put out for cybercafes. We need to identify the root causes of this apathy (ie, it is awareness? is it funding?) and address them in a structured manner. As we all know, there are many more restrictive practices in place that make it difficult for ordinary users to switch comfortably. We need to find a way of placing people in key organisations in the civil society movement (many of these organisations pay quite well, actually, and prefer persons who have an all-round approach to work, rather than tightly focused on, say, being a sysad 24/7). Such people will play a key role in bring such organisations directly into the FOSS movement. We also need to make visible persons who work in medium and large commercial organsations to come and talk - at LUG meets, for instance - on the use of FOSS in their operations. Just some food for thought. If some or all of these things begin to happen, you can be sure that the developers in the 'doze world will think twice about letting restrictive software out into the real world. I just saw Nagarjuna's post about being at HBSCE all of today, and must say, talk about communication gap, I didn't notice ANY post from anyone saying the venue would be available all day. I could easily have been there earlier, but am now committed to only getting there in the evening. Vickram ___________________________________________________________ Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Re: LUG Meet btwn 4/2 and 4/9
by Easwar Hariharan 30 Mar '07

30 Mar '07

> > As the subject line says, Prof. CN Krishnan of NRCFOSS, Chennai is also to > be > in Mumbai on the 5th of April. Can we have a meet in the evening on 5th? > But > it'll need to be after around 6 pm. > If it's on 4/8 after 5:30 pm,I might be able to attend my first LUG meet.Pleaaase! :)And BTW,what is the location? Regards, Easwar

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