Linuxers March 2007

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Re: Ayttm GTK2 Port
by Kartik Mistry 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote: > The gtk2 port of Ayttm is in CVS. You can check it out from the > gtk2-port branch. (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ayttm) Hi, Can you give exact location where gtk2 branch is? ayttm-gtk2 branch seems very old (last commit was 2 years ago!) http://ayttm.cvs.sourceforge.net/ayttm/ayttm-gtk2/ ~ Kartik

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Fwd: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
by Mitul Limbani 23 Mar '07

23 Mar '07

Hello fella linuxers, This is the email that have recieved from the Cyber Cafe Association President, As I am currently not in India, it would be great if a few luggers can meetup and discuss how we can move step further in a positive direction with Floss. Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com ----- Forwarded message from contact(a)apiap.org ----- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:21:12 +0530 From: Ashish Saboo <contact(a)apiap.org> Reply-To: contact(a)apiap.org Subject: on cyber cafe os issue To: Mitul Limbani <mitul(a)enterux.com> Dear Mitul, Thanks for your concern. Yes its unfortunate that the license scheme for cyber cafe in Mumbai has been a contentious issue. The cost for license is very high so many can't afford it . so either they will go out of business or go underground. either way it is the loss of Mumbaikers who depend on Internet cafes and the enforcement department in tracking down the grey cyber cafes . It will unintentionally criminalise many. The way out may be if the cyber cafe operators are exposed alternative option in software which fits their budget. atleast they will have a choice. Here FOSS advocates to have a role to make others aware that they do exist. Internet Cafes can be a big partner do remember 40% of Indian netizens depend on Cyber cafe . & just less than 5% of Indians are aware of Internet. cheers & best wishes Ashish Saboo President Association of Public ICT Tools Access Provider URL : http://www.apiap.org Blog: http://apiap.blogspot.com News: http://internetcafenews.blogspot.com alt email : apiap(a)rediffmail.com ----- End forwarded message -----

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Ayttm GTK2 Port
by Siddhesh Poyarekar 23 Mar '07

23 Mar '07

Hi, The gtk2 port of Ayttm is in CVS. You can check it out from the gtk2-port branch. (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ayttm) -- Siddhesh Poyarekar http://siddhesh.tk

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Forbes.com: Toppling Linux
by Dinesh Shah 23 Mar '07

23 Mar '07

Software radical Richard Stallman helped build the Linux revolution. Now he threatens to tear it apart. http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html -- --Dinesh Shah :-)

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[ANNOUNCE] Freedel 2007
by Raj Mathur 22 Mar '07

22 Mar '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ILUG Delhi is proud to announce yet another incarnation of it's annual FLOSS event, Freedel 2007. Book: September 28 and 29 (Friday and Saturday) to be in Delhi and join us for 2 days of FLOSS, fun, feasting and freaking out. Some of the changes you will notice when you join us Freedel this year are: Topic and level driven. All talks and workshops will be categorised into one of the following streams: - - System administration - - Collaboration and Communications - - Scientific and Research Tools - - Native Language Computing - - Legal aspects of FLOSS (licensing, DRM, policy, etc.) - - FLOSS in India, community, etc. Within each stream, all talks and workshops will be categorised by relevance to Beginner, Intermediate and Advanced users of FLOSS. No matter what your experience with FLOSS, there will be something of interest to you. Variety of talks. Freedel 2007 will have a wide range of items on the agenda, including seminar-style talks, BoF sessions, in-depth workshops and panel discussions. Suggestions on items to include in the agenda are always welcome. Community driven. We are actively inviting LUGs and other interested bodies to work with us on Freedel 2007 from Day 1 and become part of a larger effort. Expect a formal announcement for participation soon. New partner. In 2004 it was Jamia Hamdard, in 2005 PHDCCI and in 2006 JNU. Who's the Freedel partner going to be in 2007? Well, I can't tell you just yet, but keep your ears, and eyes and minds open :) We're discussing partnership with an eminent body, and hope to have things finalised by the end of this month. Suggestions? Questions? Willingness to participate? General chit-chat about the event? Please join the Freedel mailing list at: freedel(a)etc.kandalaya.org To subscribe, send an empty message to mailto:freedel-request@etc.kandalaya.org?subject=subscribe with just the word subscribe in the subject line. Please report any issues to me. Please forward to any fora you think this message may be relevant. Look forward to your joining us! Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur raju(a)kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGAnwQyWjQ78xo0X8RAibrAJ4pw63GacVCw77+swzkCNivjEZ4rwCfWKa1 Doa/0QJUZpleynlJafFKXgI= =8PHI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Fwd: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Freedel 2007]
by Parthan 22 Mar '07

22 Mar '07

-- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan [Blog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [Album] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak/

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Minutes of March GLUG-Meet @ Netmagic, Goregaon
by Roshan 22 Mar '07

22 Mar '07

Hello All, Anurag has compiled the minutes of the meet with contributions from me. ------------------------------------------------- *Minutes of March GLUG-Meet @ Netmagic, Goregaon* The GNU/Linux Users Group of Mumbai held its March 2007 GLUG meet on 18th March 2007 at Netmagic Solutions, Goregaon. This meet was attended by about 16 people coming from all over the city. Following talks and discussions were held. * Xen - A Brief Introducion Anurag started with a small introduction on Xen hypervisor and getting started with a debian guest. He demonstrated how to get a base guest working on an ubuntu system running on xen enabled kernel. * NRCFOSS - Activities Kenneth talked about NRCFOSS and the activities it has been doing in the field of education -- Tea, Coffee, Soft drinks and Snacks sessions followed accompanied with random discussions on random topics. * Python - Getting started Krishnakant took a hands on session on how effective python can be as a teaching tool for beginner programmers. He demonstrated how simple and quick python can be to teach complex concepts like OOP programming. And another eventful GLUG meet came to an end. Many thanks to Dhawal and Netmagic solutions for arranging everything. --------------------------------------------- For a detailed version, you can visit the following URL at the wiki http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/18Mar2007 (Phew! Finally the wiki is up and running ;) ) -- FSF of India Associate Fellow http://www.gnu.org.in http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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KDE 4.0 Release Schedule.
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 21 Mar '07

21 Mar '07

Hi, I have been asked many times about KDE 4.0 release date and such. Often, I didnot have the *exact* and *correct* reply. 4MLOC to port and maintain can't be joke and I didn't want to give any false positives to anybody. I am sure some of you have faced this problem as well. Anyways, incase you are not a regular on the dot, this is for you [1]. KDE 4.0 release schedule was published a while back. [1] http://dot.kde.org/1174481326/ Cheers! Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://in.kde.org Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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RE: is this foss?
by james mathew 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

>In all these cases, it is custom built software with one client. But >suppose state A had released the code and made it available. Would'nt >B and C save a large sum by re-using what A had released and >modifying it to suit local conditions. Or suppose state C had >released the code and made it available? Wouldnt that be FOSS inspite >of the fact that it is written using proprietary tools and runs on a >proprietary platform? While agreeing that the benifits of Free Software cannot be fully exploited unless unrestricted sharing of code takes place, it is not a cakewalk as my friend imagines. It's a result of real dedicated work at the grassroots. People relaxing on top of utopian clouds may find it difficult to imbibe the intricateimplementaion strategies. The migration can take place only by gradually building up confidence. We can't expect the govts to blindly endorse Free Software by being seduced by its philosophy alone. We have to show them that it is indeed a working model. The book about which we are discussing here clearly states that it is a compilation of 'FOSS based' projects in the PSEs of Kerala. Please understand that we are talking about 'FOSS based' projects and nothing else. So we now have some solid working models to substantiate our campaigning. Now don't think that we are absolutely complacent about all that we have done. We are very much interested in taking this to the next level and this issue is addressed in the draft of the current IT policy. <quote> 8.4 The Government is of the view that knowledge generated through public funding should be freely available to the public. Facilities will be developed to ensure the same. </quote> Once this draft is finalised, all the issues that my friend is being worried about can be put to rest. >So when we talk of spreading FOSS, are we talking of spreading the usage of the foss tools and platform or are we >talking of spreading the culture of sharing of code? It should be a mix of both >In my opinion, the tools and platform >are irrelevant - the criterion is: is the code shared or not. If so, >it is foss, if not it is proprietary. Which means i would prefer a >government that commissions code in VB and shares it to a government that does it in python and doesnt share it. Abolutely misguided opinion. >The companies that bid for these contracts oppose the sharing for the >simple reason that they follow the proprietary profit model of write >once, sell many times and feel sharing will eat into their profits. Please understand that paying once for a custom made software(of which they will have absolute control) is far better than giving huge amounts as license fees to propreitary companies. >> say in a trivial sense that it's Free Software. There's only one user >> and that user is free. No user has been subjugated; no one is being >> mistreated in this way. Of course there are always other ethical >> issues that might enter the situation. There are many ethical issues >> in life, but in this one particular ethical issue, at least in that >> case, nothing wrong is being done. >this is not really relevant as we are talking not of individuals but >of public bodies Please note that a 'user' need not be an indivudual. >>Here all Govt./Aided >> high schools use "Free Software", >could you elaborate on this? What free software do they use? Is the >syllabus available for perusal? Please have a look link for some details. http://www.rediff.com/money/2006/sep/02microsoft.htm James -- HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

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USBView
by Mohan Nayaka 20 Mar '07

20 Mar '07

Another debugging aid for USB devices : from gregkh http://www.kroah.com/linux/usb/ It depends on gtk1.2 though. Regards, Mohan S N -- Never look up when dragons fly overhead.

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Linuxers March 2007