Linuxers January 2007

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Forbes.com: Toppling Linux
by Dinesh Shah 23 Mar '07

23 Mar '07

Software radical Richard Stallman helped build the Linux revolution. Now he threatens to tear it apart. http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/1030/104_print.html -- --Dinesh Shah :-)

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Evolution mail client configuration help
by Dinesh Joshi 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hi list, I'm just trying out evolution as my new mail client. The problem is that I cant find a option to wrap the lines at 72 characters i.e. I cant set the wrapping! There is no option to set the wrapping size anywhere! Anybody using evolution?? How do I configure the client? Thanks. -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi

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A veiwpoint about FSF's campaign
by Roshan 21 Feb '07

21 Feb '07

http://blogs.gnome.org/view/ryanl/2006/12/30/0 This article *_indirectly_* speaks about the dominance of Non-Free software right from the early years of computing, and also recognizes the efforts of FSF to make users realize, that Non-Free isn't any good. Perhaps, it speaks about being "It works!" / "It should work whatsoever" approach. -- FSF-India Fellow Associate http://www.gnu.org.in __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Need help/advice for GNU/Linux supported Mother Boards/Chipsets
by Dinesh Shah 04 Feb '07

04 Feb '07

Hi All!, I want to buy new mother board for my AMD Athelon 64 CPU. Before I make a purchase, it would be great if we know all the on-board devices are supported by Linux Kernel. I have 3 choices 1. Asus - K8V-MX (http://www.asus.com.tw/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=14&l3=276&model=1189&modelmenu…) Chipset: VIA K8M890 VIA VT8237A Audio: Realtek ALC660 6-Channel Codec LAN: Realtek RTL8201CL 10/100M LAN PHY 2. Mercury - KVM800M (http://www.mercury-pc.com/product-detail.php?link=p-mainboards&subtitle=Mai…) Chipset: VIA K8M800/8237 VGA: Embedded UniChrome II 3D Graphics with 64M share memory LAN: VIA VT6103 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet PHY Audio: Realtek ALC655 6-channel audio Codec (Compliant with AC 97 2.3 specification) 3. MSI - K8MM-V (http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID…) Chipset • VIA(r) K8M800 Chipset - HyperTransport™ connection to AMD(r) Athlon™ 64 processor - 8 or 16 bit control/address/data transfer both directions - 800/600/400/200MHz "Double Data Rate" operation both direction - AGP v3.0 compliant with 8x transfer mode - Graphic integrated • VIA(r) VT8237R Chipset - Integrated Faster Ethernet LPC - Integrated Hardware Sound Blaster/Direct Sound AC97 audio - Ultra DMA 66/100/133 master mode PCI EIDE controller - ACPI - Supports 2 Serial ATA ports Any help/pointer in deciding the compatibility will be appreciated. I have done some google search but found more non-English pages then English pages. TIA for your help. With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-)

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Feb Meet and SELF Conference
by Anurag 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

Hi, As announced sometime back, SELF conference would be held on 2nd Feb 2007 at Homi Bhabha Auditorium, TIFR, Colaba. We would also have the Feb GNU/Linux Users Group meeting there. Please register for conference here: http://self.gnowledge.org/ Anurag -- __ __ gnu /noo/ n. Ox like antelope; (abbr.) /gnoo/ n. (recursive acronym) Gnu's Not Unix.

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[OT] Hardware Problems - Maybe CPU/Mobo
by Mrugesh Karnik 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

Hi, My monitor suddenly turned itself off while I was using the computer in the afternoon. The keyboard stopped working too. Since then, I've tried: Connecting the monitor to the onboard graphics instead of the AGP card. Replacing the power supply. Both the power supplies with all the load like hard disks and DVD drives disconnected. Two different monitors. No go. Then I had an idea and tried removing the RAM. There were no beeps, so probably, even POST isn't reached. I then disassembled, cleaned and reassembled everything. Nothing worked. When I switch on the computer, the monitor doesn't get any signal. The power supply and CPU fans are on. Any suggestions or ideas? I can't find a compatible processor or motherboard anywhere to test out mine. It's a 754 pin AMD Sempron64 processor. -- |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mrugesh Karnik | Registered Linux User #375243 |-----------------------------------------------------------------------

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help wanted regarding memory model in C program
by romel dutta 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

hello everyone, first of all my apologies to all,for asking a question that may be very silly,but i am not ashamed to tell that i duuno the concept about this... :-(,so i am ready to show my ignorance and not become ignorant my whole life...anyway following is the question,and please can some one define it or give some good link about it.It will be really helpful for me. 1) Where in memory exactly auto,static and extern(global) variables are stored..? 2) Detail explanation of the memory model of a C program. I am confused where in memory these variables are stored and also what are the stages in memory during compilation.. It will be very helpful for me,if someone guide me. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Romel You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw

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[OT for some] Please test libyahoo2!
by Kartik Mistry 01 Feb '07

01 Feb '07

Dear all, I have created libyahoo2 package for Debian. Anyone using Debian unstable can get it from there. Or you can get source and build it your own from: http://packages.qa.debian.org/liby/libyahoo2.html Please report the issue on Debian BTS. Hope that I will not be flamed for this {OT}. -- Regards, -------------------------------------------------- Kartik Mistry | kartikmistry.org 0xD1028C8D | kartikm.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------

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OffTopic : BarCampMumbai | University Level
by Ankur Gupta 31 Jan '07

31 Jan '07

This goes out mainly to the students on this mailing list BarCampMumbai | University Level is being organized on Feb 11th @ K.J. Somaiya College of Engineering. For the unaware "BarCamp is an ad hoc un-conference born from the desire for people to share and learn in an open environment. It is an intense event with discussions, demos, and interaction from attendees." Registering and more information -> http://barcamp.org/BarCampMumbaiU Some reason why you would want to attend the barcamp are You want to demo some project / programs you are working/worked on. Want to talk on some new language / technology you are using. Or just want to meet some like minded students. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Debian trends and future distros.
by Rony 31 Jan '07

31 Jan '07

Hello Everyone, Here are some news tips and updates for Debian and its alied distros. During April 07, Ubuntu will come out with a multi-media centric distro called UbuntuStudio http://ubuntustudio.org/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio There is also another media centric Ubuntu called Ubuntu Multimedia Center http://ubuntummc.com/ During that time the new Ubuntu versions 7.04 will be released too. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue28 Debian 4 which is still under 'Testing' and will be finally called Etch http://www.us.debian.org/releases/testing/ can be downloaded for trial using a small netinstall iso http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ from http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ The netinstall iso is the base system only. But saves download of heavy dvds for testing. There are CD isos too but I don't know which iso contains what packages. I downloaded the netinstall iso which was 130 MB and used 'installgui' at boot prompt to use and study its GUI installer. Its really great and very good for non-experts to try out Debian. It works smoothly just like Fedora's Anaconda. Its kernel is 2.6.17. During installation, the Desktop option was selected during package selection and it download 540 MB of Gnome desktop. My 400 MB triband account is screaming and hysterical at the heavy downloads this month. :P Gnome in Etch RC1 is 2.15. In Ubuntu 6.10 it is 2.16. After install, the updates prompter in Etch states that kernel 2.6.18 image is available. So thats a plus point for Debian Etch. Gnome in Etch is a bit buggy. Its printer tool allows you to select and choose printers but at the final 'Apply' button, the entire process vanishes into thin air. You are back to square 1. The best way to setup printers in _any_ linux distro is to ensure that CUPS is running and use a web browser and type localhost:631 in the address bar. 631 is the CUPS port for printing. If you have enabled network administration ( see docs on the CUPS website) you can access your printer from across different machines by typing Your_Printer_PC_IP_Address:631 If you are a command line fan or X is not loaded then use the lynx text browser to do the same in command line. 'lynx localhost:631' You can change printer settings too, like page size, resolution etc. Another bug with gnome is that its automatic NetworkManager applet initially detects the connection established but after a reboot or two, it does not even detect the network device. All this while network is actually working and giving internet access. But Gnome in etch packs in some more packages and utilities compared to Ubuntu 6.10. It has a separate CD burning utility ( cannot recall its name) just like K3B in KDE. The default in-built burning utility still exists. The best option then would be to use both Gnome and KDE in Debian Etch and for that request someone who has its DVD to make a copy for you. ;) Regards, Rony. ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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