Linuxers January 2002

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cyberoam - is it legal to Rev. Engg?
by Amish Mehta 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

YES!!! God came in my dream and told me the algorithm!! Amish. Philip S Tellis wrote: >If they cannot prove that you reverse engineered it, then they cannot do >anything. Max they can do is stop giving you net access.

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Making Linux look harder than it is
by E C Vijil 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

An interesting article. Many "gurus" teaching new users about Linux make it look harder than it needs to be, and apparently fail to explain that yes, you can make PowerPoint-style presentations in Linux, you can view Web Pages that use Flash animation and other "glitz" features, and that you can manage all your files though simple "point, click, drag and drop" visual interfaces. Could the biggest problem with Linux usability be that most of the people teaching newbies to use Linux are too smart and know too much? Read the complete article here: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/12/05/1259245 Regards, Vijil

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anti DMCA petition
by Kishor Bhagwat 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

read a petition against the repressive Digital Millenium Copyright Act http://www.petitiononline.com/nixdmca/ regards, kishor

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cyberoam - is it legal to Rev. Engg?
by Amish Mehta 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

Now what can we(users) can do if they are not ready to give Linux solution. Afterall, we are paying them. Infact we are ready to give them free solution if they give us algorithm. Can I say that I have developed it JUST for myself and put on the web for educational purpose or something like that? There has to be something legal, right :-)(any hints?). How was Microsoft's SMB reverse engineered, that cant be legal then either? Amish. Philip S Tellis wrote: > >Sometime on Jan 9, Kishor Bhagwat assembled some asciibets to say: > >> umm....then it has to work both ways..i can sue them for anything that >> the software does? > >no, no warranty, means just that. the software can do anything to you, >and they cannot be held responsible. of course, IANAL. > >> 2)I've entered into a contract, the rights n obligations of which I >> have absolutely no idea > >and, which they could change at any time, without notice.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cyberoam - is it legal to Rev. Engg?
by Amish Mehta 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

I sent elitecore guys a mail asking for algorithm. But first mail bounced back and there is no response to second. I guess only option to reverse engineer the code but IS IT LEGAL to do so? I think even SMB(MS's?) protocol was reverse engineered, so is it allowed? I am no good in RE but I want to try once but only if I CAN. Amish. Kishor Bhagwat wrote: >any succces with the new cyberoam client yet? I've given up trying to >guess the algorithm... > >kishor

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cyberoam
by shanker p 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

Hi.. which Os the "Cyberoam" uses ?? The cable internet server for authentication. thanx in advance Shankar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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Fwd: Linux Documentation Author Werner Heuser threatened with 6 months imprisonment or 250.000.- EURO penalty for supposed tradmark infringment
by N.D. 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

From: "Kurt Pfeifle" <kpfeifle(a)danka.de> To: <announce(a)linuxdoc.org>; <discuss(a)linuxdoc.org>; <docbook(a)linuxdoc.org> Cc: <wehe(a)mobilix.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: Linux Documentation Author Werner Heuser threatened with 6 months imprisonment or 250.000.- EURO penalty for supposed tradmark infringment Off topic -- cross posting is deliberate... ############################################################################ ################ ## 6 months imprisonment or 250.000.- EURO penalty to Linux Documentation Author -- ## for infringing comic character "Obelix" through free Laptop support Website "MobiliX"?? ############################################################################ ################ After having gotten a request (in June 2001) from German legal representatives of "Les Editions Albert Rene" (Paris), holder of the trademarks "Asterix" and "Obelix", to unregister the name MobiliX, they now took legal action against Werner Heuser (mailto:wehe@mobilix.org), well-known amongst Linux-laptop users for authoring the "Linux-Mobile-Guide" (formerly called the Laptop-HOWTO), published by the Linux Documentation Project. MobiliX (http://mobilix.org/), his own website, is dedicated to "Mobile UniX systems" on laptops, PDAs, cell phones and more. It carries lots of useful hands-on information about installing and running Linux and BSD on laptops, PDAs and other mobile computer devices -- and of course it is free to use via the internet. It exists since five years and besides the famous site "Linux on Laptops" (http://www.linux-laptop.net) by Kenneth E. Harker it seems to be biggest resource on this topic. MobiliX is an acronym of the words "mobile" and "UniX". To avoid legal trouble, Werner had registered this name at the German trademark register in 1999. It is a common practice to build new names for Unix related topics from a word naming the topic and adding the letters "iX" at the end. Some examples are: AIX, Eurix (Comfood), Sinix (Siemens-Nixdorf), SkroBelix, Skyrix, Ultrix, Xenix. The German computer magazine iX is even just named by these letters. The name Unix itself is a registered trademark of AT&T, X/Open. The very name Mobilix is already registered for a German manufacturer of children furniture -- but don't seem infringed, because of the different industry they are in. Before the legal action, Werner didn't reference in any way towords comic characters Asterix or Obelix on his web pages. The name of his website MobiliX.org is supposed to be mistaken for Obelix, according to the charges. The trademark Obelix was registered by German lawyer Guenter Freiherr v. Gravenreuth. The legal charge is up to 250.000 USD or six months prison. The costs of the first instance are app. 15.000 USD. Werner Heuser has decided not to withdraw the name "MobiliX". He is supported by the German lawyers Jaschinski, Biere und Brexl - JBB (http://www.jbb-berlin.de). This case is another one in the recent series of trademark troubles for Free Software projects (SAMBA, Kylix, Kilustrator, SELFHTML, SuSE, ..). Therefore this case is very important not only because many of these projects have names ending on "iX". Current news about the case are at http://mobilix.org/mobilix_asterix.html Please support Werner to fight this attack. [submitted by Kurt Pfeifle <pfeifle(a)kde.org>] -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | .--. CUPS + ESP PrintPro: | | |o_o | ******************** | | ~ |:_/ | Unix/Linux Printing made fun and easy | | ° ° // \ \ http://www.danka.de/printpro/faq.html | | /V\ (| | ) .~. Kurt Pfeifle, Danka Deutschland GmbH | | // \\ /'\_ _/`\ /V\ Tel.: +49-172-715.7017 | | /( )\ \___)=(___ )/( )\ mailto:kpfeifle@danka.de | | ^`~'^ ^^~^^ | | Network Printing Services: Consulting+Training+Workshops+Troubleshooting | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________ http://list.linuxdoc.org/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Simple distro
by nilesh patil 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

Hi All, I want to create a Linux CD, which just contains only Apache Server as far as the Applications are concerned, and wish to remove all other applications like GNOME, SAMBA, KDE, GAMES, ... etc. from the CD. Also when I will use this CD to install, only Apache must be called for installtion and no other applications must be called. Can someone please guide to achieve this. Some suggestions or pointers will be of great help. Thanks. --Nilesh _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] cyberoam
by Amish Mehta 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

See old Dec archives of list at http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers or go directly to http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/pipermail/linuxers/Week-of-Mon-20011217/003320.ht… Amish. Mitul Limbani wrote: >Can you give me the dump. >Or if any one else has got the dump for the latest cyberoam server

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- [Commercial] - Economic GNU/Linux CDs available.
by Navin 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

Hello, Economic CDs are available with us. Please check the economic cds store at http://cds.linuxcampus.net Yours Truly, Navin Dhanuka. LinuxCampus.net : ====[ Linux One Stanza Tip (LOST) ]=============== Sub : Killing a Process (#3) LOST #150 To kill a process by name, use the killall command. To kill a failed fetchmail session on tty1 as an user, log into another console, and issue the command "killall fetchmail". Be careful with this command as root, since all instances of the program used by *all* users will be killed !!! ====<bish(a)nde.vsnl.net.in>====================== ====[ http://lost.linuxcampus.net ]=================== : . _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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