Linuxers December 2002

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[OT] Indiatimes Article "Windows servers cheaper ... "
by Nikhil Kale 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Check out this article: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/comp/articleshow?artid=3012… Whats the catch?? Nikhil Kale Software Engineer. Mahindra British Telecom Ltd. NikhilKale(a)linuxmail.org NikhilKale(a)indiatimes.com -- ______________________________________________ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with POP3/IMAP access for only US$19.95/yr Powered by Outblaze

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[OT] We have the way out????
by Nikhil Kale 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Somebody ought to do something about this: http://wehavethewayout.com/ Nikhil Kale Software Engineer. Mahindra British Telecom Ltd. NikhilKale(a)linuxmail.org NikhilKale(a)indiatimes.com -- ______________________________________________ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with POP3/IMAP access for only US$19.95/yr Powered by Outblaze

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Agenda for the LUG meet
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi Amish ! Could you send me the agenda for the LUG meet. I can then put it up on the ILUG-BOM site. Cheers Kapil Karekar

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Poll for location
by Amish K. Munshi 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi, I have created a poll for the preffered location of meetings. Please visit http://munshi.dyndns.org/~amish/polls/ and post your poll. Thanks. Bye.

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Wine,Dine and Network(tweak)ing
by Jeetu 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hey all, Am new to the list and relatively new to Linux in general, though have been using it as my primary OS for quite sometime now and luv it :) I'm using Debian 3.0 with kernel 2.4.18 and my research interest is in the field of Natural Language Processing (NLP) - a subset of AI. I have my open source project called Mother (http://mother.sourceforge.net) Have a few queries and would really appreciate if I could get some help on them : a) Over a period of time have been trying to follow the Wine project and it's progress. I'm quite impressed by it. Recently I've been trying to install Office 97 on it using wine-20021125 and the installation fails after it searches for installed components. Any ideas on how to get it goin?....and I use OpenOffice and just wanna see if I can get this going to guage the progress of Wine (basically trying to see how long it'd be before I can run my VB based inventory software at work which is currently under development under Linux....then I can run Linux at work :) ). The Wine newsgroup doesn't seem to respond to this, however there are ppl who say Office 97 is running for them....if anyone here knows how then i'd appreciate. b) I have a Realtek 8139 based NIC and it runs great. I'm using the BSES Powersurfer Broadband service. I get speeds similar to those I get under Windows and was wondering if there's tweaking I can do that'd help improve that. My network interface comes up during bootup as set in half-duplex mode....is that due to the card? or due to the network?? basically can I set this to full duplex? or is there any other way to significantly improve speeds. c) The Konqueror file browser upon trying to unzip a .tar.gz file seems to do it very very slowly, for huge files, when compared to the tar utility. Is that a bug or is there something i should do to set it right? d) Anyone here knows of any project (or app) that aims to bring Voice Chatting abilities to MSN clones under Linux. I know the aboves quite a long list of questions.....thanks a lot in advance for all the help. Bye for now

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] how bout a free os anthem??
by Gurpreet Singh 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 Philip S Tellis wrote : >On 1 Dec 2002, Gurpreet Singh wrote: > > > how bout an anthem for the movement?? > >http://geektones.com/gm/tm/alt_bluescreen.htm [snip] oh plz dear! we have to be "pro linux" i think we are concentrating more on being "anti M$"... i wanted to say this all the while, but did'nt. ppl, why do have to be soooooooooo anti M$. lets leave them alone. we have a betta thing with us, lets be more of "pro linux" regards gurpreet > >-- >You need more time; and you probably always will. > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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SUID, c shell script
by mails＠munshi.dyndns.org 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hello all, Approx a week back I got the info that I need to use a C program to execute a command a root for web scripts (PHP). I have given that a try, I created a addnewhost.cpp : #include <stdlib.h> int main() { system("/usr/sbin/useradd newusernewuser"); return 0; } Compiled, linked and suid it as (Did this as root) g++ -c addnewhost.cpp g++ -o addnewhost.bin addnewhost.o chown root.root addnewhost.bin chmod 4755 addnewhost.bin But when I try to run the addnewhost.bin as a normal user it says useradd: unable to lock password file But runs fine as root. Any clues where should I go next. All I need to do is execute some command as a superuser but from a PHP page. Thanks in advance. Bye.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Software license tied to human rights
by Kiran Nadgir 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

> Message: 8 > From: Bhargav Bhatt <bhargav.bhatt(a)columbia.edu> > Organization: Columbia University > To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Group urges limits on open source > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 03:17:31 -0500 > Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > > Kiran Nadgir wrote: > > <nothing new> ---8<--- Yes yes nothing new.....nice to know that luggers are more interested in showing off their intelligence (egos actually) on the way msgs are posted rather than on the msg. Which gets me to ask myself a question....do these great intelligent people really care about GNU/Linux and this mailing list or do they care more about showing off their egos here. Yes i could've posted a link to the article instead of cutting and pasting the whole thing. BUT i pasted it because last time i had posted some link i had got a reply that the site required a passwd etc. So just to make sure no one faces any problems i pasted the WHOLE article. This takes me to another topic, Major problems in the world exist because people don't percieve things in the same way. Everyone has their own point of view about things. Even i have one but most of the times i don't let my EGO blurr the actual view. So yes i agree that i have posted mails with an unacceptable "signal to noise ratio" and i have changed that. But sometimes rather than following the HERD and coming up with such comments on someone you should try and think about all the possible reasons for a person to do something. And in this case i don't think i have done anything wrong . But as they say advice is something the wise don't give and the fools don't take ( i know people will reply to this specific statement of mine (thats my perception :) ) Yes i have realized that my mail signatures were unncessarily HUGE and have reduced it. But if someone still wants me to teach netiqutte this is what i would have to say to that person. @#!@#!#! > Kiran, > =09Whats the point of just copying and pasting from websites and filling=20 > up our mailboxes? You would be far better off providing a short=20 > paragraph and a URL for the article.=20 ---8<--- Yes my dear friend i could've been better off..but i did this with a reason. and i really don't care what you have to say. > =09Also, by not making a mention of your source, you are violating the=20 > copyright rights of cnet.com. Quoting their website, "Re-use of any of=20 > CNET's editorial content and graphics online for any purpose is=20 > strictly prohibited. The materials from CNET's sites are available for=20 > informational and noncommercial uses offline only, provided the content=20 > and/or graphics are not modified in any way, all copyright and other=20 > notices on any copy are retained, and permission is granted by CNET.".=20 > =09Please don't provide illegal(assumiing you have not obtained explicit=20 > permission from the source) documents on the mailing list and make us a=20 > part of the *crime*. > =09Also, the disclaimer attached to the email states that "This message=20 > (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended=20 > for a specific individual and purpose". Does that not make your email=20 > totally useless for any mailing list with more than one member. It=20 > means that this email was meant only for the person who uses the=20 > address linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in, and that all the rest of us=20 > getting this message should "delete this message". Also the disclaimer=20 > makes linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in, or whoever the list admin is, a=20 > criminal because the disclaimer also states that "copying, or=20 > distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it,=20 > is strictly prohibited." ----8<---- <NOTHING NEW> I have already mentioned about this one my dear friend. If you don't want me on the list u can unsubscribe me anytime ......I am using my corp id because its convinient AND AGAIN FOR YOUR CONVINIENCE....THE GUIDELINES OF THIS LIST DON'T TALK ANYTHING ABOUT DISCLAIMERS. SO either make sure the guidelines are changed or just stop displaying your intelligence on this topic. > > For those who want to read the article in its original form, its=20 > available at the following link > > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-975578.html?tag=3Dfd_top > -----8<---- Thanks for the link ....:) that was nice. > Bhargav Bhatt, > Department of Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics, > Columbia University. > -- > "If English was commutative, we could all talk like Yoda." - Anonymous. > > > --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 01:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: kishor bhagwat <aaaaarrrgghhh(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Software license tied to human rights To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in Reply-To: linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in > --- Kiran Nadgir <kirann(a)mahindrabt.com> > wrote:(nah..pasted) ---8<--- yes yes i pasted is that such a BIG problem ??? > err..some ppl have already gently suggested some good > things abt ur postings and mail sigs etc.. -----8<---- so whas u gonna try next my dear friend ??? I have a suggestion for LUG. The homepage should say. Welcome to GNU/LUG EGOISTS Users Group of Mumbai! because thats what is going on in this list most of the times....everyone has such a big EGO...cant u ppl for once let things be and just FOCUS on the message rather than the sender of the message. There are a lot of constructive stuff to be done rather than this EGO trips that keep happening. What are you guys trying to prove to each other. This mailing list is like the GOVERNMENT OF INDIA....most of the times rather than FOCUSSING on the issue...the FOCUS is on who created the issue...how dare he create the issue...why didnt he do it this way..this is how its to be done.....O CMONN...gimme a break....come out of this if u really want to do something for GNU/LINUX....don't worry so much about showing off ur intelligence through comments on how ppl are doing things......i believe all u ppl must be great techies..and thats what u shud be doing....focussing on what u r supposed to do.... and if anyone else has any problems with me cut pasting stuff or my mails...i'd want to be unsubsribed from this list. Thanks for teaching me a few things on netiqutte...but i guess a lot of people here have a lot to learn.... What they need to learn is understood i hope.... > what kinda ppl are MBT hiring nowadays? -----8<--- Atleast not the stupid kind like you. And listen kishor...u better not get personal on this one.....Is this what the entire LUG is all about... MUD slinging matches.....welll .....i hope u never have a Linux-Bombay...with such people....because it'll be more of an EGO Flashing trip than anything else.....I thought the lug had people who were above average in intelligence..but what i see is bunch of kiddos..fighting with each other. I hope this changes someday....And as for u kishor....u sound like u r constipated with that id of urs.....why dont u try some Isabgol... :) > > regds, > aaaaarrrgghhh > -----8<---- Freedom - Hehhehehehheehee. > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] is India IT Club Newsletter useful for us?
by Gurpreet Singh 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 Philip S Tellis wrote : >On 30 Nov 2002, Gurpreet Singh wrote: > > > http://www.geocities.com/tonysingh4u/Ind_IT_Club_Nletter.doc >cud > >Word Doc??!! Why? Aren't there any _better_ alternatives? [snip] the person who compils this uses windows. i cant help that... gurpreet > >-- >The last thing one knows in constructing a work is what to put >first. > -- Blaise Pascal > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > ________________________________________________________________ NIIT supports World Computer Literacy Day on 2nd December. Enroll for NIIT SWIFT Jyoti till 2nd December for only Rs. 749 and get free Indian Languages Office software worth Rs. 2500. For details contact your nearest NIIT centre, SWIFT Point or click here http://swift.rediff.com/ Gurpreet Singh Student Final Yr Computer Sc. & Engg. --------------------------------------------------------------------- M A K E Y O U R O W N R O A D --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[OT] Athlon Omlette Sandwich Recipe ???
by vinayak_hegde＠softhome.net 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hello Luggers, I just couldn't resist sending this on the mailing list. The story of the man who fried an egg on a Athlon 1500+. I am not joking. It is complete with pictures and with Athlon Omlette Sandwich Recipe ;) here's the link http://www.handyscripts.co.uk/egg.asp ************** Vinayak Hegde APGDST Student NCST-Juhu **************

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Linuxers December 2002