Linuxers July 2002

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qmail /var/qmail why?
by akshaysalkar 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

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Driver for Sis650
by santoshm 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

Hello Everbody! I was installing Linux 7.2 on HCL based Beanstalk machine with 1.6 GHz. The video adapter card it is using is SiS 650 with 16MB RAM. Linux 7.2 is not able to probe if we use some other driver withing SiS. Could you all please suggest for any of the clone drivers so that it starts Xwindows. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanking you Santosh

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[Soul Search] Free Software wizard in Gujarat
by Nagarjuna G. 03 Jul '02

03 Jul '02

I want to know if any one in the list, or any one who knows a free software enthisiast in Gujarat, who knows free DBMSs like MySQL and willing to work for an international project, and knows the locality well. Nagarjuna

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LinuxInIndia newsletter...
by Frederick Noronha 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

If anyone would like a copy of Issue#1, please send in a request with LINXUININDIA as your subjectline. FN _ _ _____ _____ _ | | (_) |_ _| |_ _| | |_ | | _ _ __ _ ___ __ | | _ __ | | _ __ __| (_) ___ | | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | | | '_ \ | | | '_ \ / _` | |/ _ \ | |____| | | | | |_| |> < _| |_| | | |_| |_| | | | (_| | | (_) | |______|_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\_____|_| |_|_____|_| |_|\__,_|_|\__,_| CopyLeft2002 * ISSUE02 * JULY 2002 * CIRCULATE FREELY UNDER GNU/GPL LICENCE ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Co-edited by Frederick Noronha and Parag Mehta <pm at linuxindia dot org> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In this issue * Technical updates from India * GNU/Linux in schools * Local language solutions * Linking up with the outside world * Focus on Indian LUGs * People in/behind the news ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ******************TECHNICAL UPDATES FROM INDIA**************************** ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sayamindu Dasgupta <unmadindu(a)Softhome.net> recently (May 22, 2002) announced the launch of the unofficial PCTel softmodem-Linux Compatibility Database. It's aimed at all owners of PCTel-chipset based modems. http://pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net/ Audience: All owners of PCTel chipset based modems. Dasgupta explains: "The PCTel Modem-Linux Compatibilty Database is an effort to collect and categorise information regarding PCTel softmodems' compatibility in Linux. PCTel provides (unofficially) proprietary Linux drivers for their modems. However, some of the PCTel softmodems still refuse to work with Linux, and moreover, to use the drivers, one has to know the chipset present in one's modem. "The project is designed in such a manner that users will be able to add their modem information (chipset, working status, distributions tested, drivers tested, etc) in a database, which, in turn can be viewed and searched by users whose modems are still not functioning." All owners of PCTel modems are requested to visit the project site at http://pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net/index.php and submit their modem information. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Shiv Nair <snair(a)webintellisys.com> announces the launch of a new version (1.14) of the Intellisys Project Management Software. Says he: "Intellisys Project Desktop is designed for those who want an un-complicated and effective project management tool. The goal of Intellisys is to provide this project management software as an affordable and viable solution which meets the needs of users, across platforms. It runs on Unix and Linux too (besides Windows and Mac). For more information: http://www.webintellisys.com/project/desktop.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 'Penguin, Baby' is being our promised as a reliable, feature-rich, fast, scalable and low-cost Linux communication server, for the small and medium enterprises (SME). It was built keeping in mind the specific requirements of the SME segment (under 25 PCs). It consists of two important components for a company's electronic commerce needs -- a mail server (to send, receive, manage you(a)your_company.com e-mail ids) and a proxy server (to allow one Internet connection to be shared by all the office PCs). Other solutions available. Contact 50, Hira Mahal, 250 Kalbadevi Rd , Mumbai 400 002. India. http://www.ramshyam.com Phone +91.22. 207 8946, 209 5986 Email: business(a)ramshyam.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Says Sunil Abraham: "Mithi is a (Pune-based) commercial organization but they have told me that they are keen on building IL tools for Linux. They are supporting us in building a Python based XML RPC bridge to Zope application server. This bridge will be open source so that other Python developers can use Mithi's products if they wish. On a separate note we are part of the GNU indic-computing project on source-forge.net were are specifically looking at create a cross platform solution. We will be starting with java.awt.im input method framework and the Ekit applet [www.hexidec.com/ekit.php]. But nothing to report so far. We are getting some volunteers on this via TechEmpower.net." Thanks for keeping us informed, Sunil! Sunil Abraham of the Bangalore NGO MAHITI (not to be confused with the Karnataka government's policy also carrying the same name) is working out of 314/1, 7th Cross, Domlur Bangalore - 560 071 Karnataka, INDIA Ph/Fax: +91 80 5352003. Pager: 9624 279519 sunil(a)mahiti.org http://www.mahiti.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ dhvani - TTS system for indian languages by Ozakil Azim dhvani - A Text-to-Speech System for Indian Languages developed by the Simputer Trust developers and others.Current - C/Linux implementation, Hindi, Kannada, Tamil Support. Soon - better phonetic engine, Java port, language independent framework... http://sourceforge.net/projects/dhvani/ oazim at users.sourceforge.net ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ linc is not cyberoam by MRNk: linc is a free multiplatform client for Cyberoam and 24online. Cyberoam is an employee Internet management system used by corporate networks. 24online is a subscriber management system for broadband ISPs. http://linc.sf.net mayur(a)freeshell.org ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ G. Dijendranath <dnath(a)vsnl.com> wrote in sometime in May 2002 to say that they represent Turbolinux in India and are planning to launch this versions of GNU/Linux "in a big way". **++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kaash by Tarjei Mikkelsen A data collection package for health care-workers in rural India. A version of this software is currently being used in a Media Lab Asia pilot study outside Delhi. http://sourceforge.net/projects/kaash/ tarjeim at users.sourceforge.net ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ******************GNU/LINUX IN SCHOOLS IN INDIA*************************** ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Raju Mathur <raju(a)kandalaya.org> of http://kandalaya.org/ recently announced about work to take GNU/Linux to schools around Delhi. Some points discussed at a meeting held on May 25, 2002 at Sarai included: * Marketing Strategy * Schools to be targeted * Action Points * Packages to be put on installation CD Post Installation * Support Cost You can get in touch with some of the key members of this network (and those who have been around at the early meetings) via leo(a)indialink.org (Leo Fernandez) raju(a)linux-delhi.org (Raj Mathur) tripta(a)sarai.net (Tripta) supreet(a)linux-delhi.net (Supreet) gami(a)linux-delhi.net (Dhruv Gami) khanna_s(a)vsnl.com (Prateek Khanna) ashkaul77(a)yahoo.com (Ashwani Kaul) anurag_varma(a)indiatimes.com (Anurag Varma) aey2bee(a)yahoo.co.in (Anjali Bashista) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ******************LOCAL LANGUAGE SOLUTIONS FOR INDIA********************** ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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squid (sun cache raq) problem
by Hiten Desai 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Hi! My ISP is giving me old stale files every time with his sun cache raq is there anyway to detect it (wht is the ip of cache raq) is there anyway to bypass it ?? or chocke it up so that he removes it ?? or just bypass it most of the times Thanks Hiten. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to use .iso images for installing linux ?
by Tahir Hashmi 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:48:05 monil wrote: > >[root@localhost root]# md5sum valhalla-i386-disc1.iso >d874b1b23b2ad937f4a5a3df44ad501d valhalla-i386-disc1.iso > >It does not seem to be the right KEY . So , will this .iso file be valid ? > I too downloaded the ISOs a few days back and none of their md5 sums matched. But the big surprise is... that there's no surprise! My colleague tried to burn a CD out of the first image but it couldn't boot or be read. BTW, I got the images from linuxISO.org --- Tahir Hashmi (VSE, NCST) http://staff.ncst.ernet.in/tahir tahir AT ncst DOT ernet DOT in __________________________________ We, the rest of humanity, wish GNU luck and Godspeed ____________________________________________________________ Win a first-class trip to New Orleans and vacation Elvis Style!. Enter NOW! http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail/http://www.elvis.lycos.com/sweepstakes/

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Problem with "locale" setting while using X
by Rajen M. Parekh 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

Hi all, Recently I upgraded the X server from 4.0.3 to 4.2. Now, when I start WindowMaker, I get the following message..... wmaker warning: X server does not support locale wmaker warning: cannot set locale modifiers wmaker warning: could not open IM X still works, but now I am not able to start OpenOffice. I get the message..... I18N: X Window does not support locale "en_US" I18N: X Window does not support locale "C" When I start Mozilla, I get the following message...... Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C Gdk-WARNING **: can not set locale modifiers The "locale" is properly set, because when I check the environment variable LANG, it gives me "en_US" [rajen@localhost ~]$ echo $LANG en_US What seems to be the problem ? Why doesn't X set the locale ? Rajen. ------- Woman on Street: Sir, you are drunk; very, very drunk. Winston Churchill: Madame, you are ugly; very, very ugly. I shall be sober in the morning.

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Re[3]: Upgrading glibc and the kernel
by Vinay Pai 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

> > gcc is either fixed or it's the right way to do it now. Either way, > I'll use 3.0.3 or whatever the latest is. AFAIK the docs for kernel 2.4.x still recommend gcc 2.91... maybe they changed it in 2.4.18 or something, though... dunno.

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Re: Upgrading glibc and the kernel
by Vinay Pai 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

> So if I upgrade glibc, the kernel won't work? OK, I'm not really that much of an expert and I've learnt many things the hard way. So let me tell you some things from experience! Anybody who know better please do correct me. I started out with a Redhat 7 system, so it has a 2.2 kernel and glibc 2.1. Since then I've been doing most of my upgrades by compiling sources (its a lot more work and lot messier, but you get to learn a lot more then by just installing RPMs!) Once I got the drivers and other kernel configuration paramaters right, I had no trouble at all. glibc worked just fine with the new kernel. My guess is that glibc talks to the kernel through traps/interrupts so unless there's a drastic change in the interface glibc wouldn't mind... and the kernel developers won't break binary compatibility unless there's an overwhelmingly strong reason to do so. My conclusion, kernels can be upgraded pretty painlessly. Glibc was another matter. I installed glibc 2.2.3 with the prefix /usr/local (the default) and everything seemed fine. But when I later upgraded to 2.2.5 things went nuts. I don't know what I did, but somehow the linker (ld-linux) couldn't find glibc 2.2.3 so everything I'd compiled on my system failed. When I copied ld-2.2.3.so to /lib hoping it would be found there, all of redhat's stuff (cp, ls etc!!!) stopped working. I had to boot from the rescue CD to fix that. Ultimately I ended up compiling both the glibc 2.2.3 and 2.2.5 and installing them both with /usr prefix, and everything's been working fine ever since. My conclusion, upgrading glibc can break your system totally if you don't know that you're doing! However there's one thing you should know... the kernel doesn't need to find glibc while its being compiled... its the other way around. Glibc is a C-callable interface to ther kernel services. If you also want to upgrade GCC you might want to do it before glibc... the quality of code produced by the compiler won't depend much on the version of libc used by the compiler, but compiling glibc with the latest gcc might help take advantages of the latest features and optimizations. However, use kgcc rather than gcc 3.x to compile the kernel. I remember getting a horribly broken kernel when I compiled it with 3.0.1 (iirc)

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Upgrading glibc and the kernel
by Satya 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

So if I upgrade glibc, the kernel won't work? -- Satya. <URL:http://satya.virtualave.net/> You are lost in a twisty maze of little standards, all different

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Linuxers July 2002