Linuxers August 2002

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can mails be accessed via SSL?
by akshaysalkar 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

can mails be accessed via SSL? say want to fetch the mails from VSNL and i use netscape messenger and if i try enabling SSL .? will it work? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Linux Classes
by Linux Group 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

Hello Everybody, Can anybody tell me which and where is the Good Class for Linux in Mumbai which will clear all the funda?? Also one can try for Certification then ??? Thanks __________________________________________________________ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/

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NEWS: Grassroots push for 'open source' in Indian software
by Frederick Noronha 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

India-Tech/Development-Bangalore Grassroots push for 'open source' in Indian software By Frederick Noronha BANGALORE, Aug 26 (IANS): 'Open source' and free software could open up new windows of opportunity both for coders in the Indian software power-house, and also to benefit those on the wrong side of the digital divide. Soaring global software prices, tightening anti-piracy laws and even just the ethical edge it promises is pushing campaigners from across the country to lobby with international organisations and governments for the greater use of 'non-proprietorial' software. Increasingly, a small but growing band of 'free software' and open-source advocates are pushing for a greater emphasis to this form of software. Unlike proprietorial software, open-source can be freely copied and shared across computers. "If we calculate the actual cost (of pirated software being used in the ... country) India would lose a significant chunk of its billions earned from its software earnings," argues mahiti.org CEO Sunil Abraham. mahiti.org is a Bangalore-based non-profit organisation that works to 'affordable and simple' solutions to the non-governmental and non-profit sector. Bangalore's NGO sector is rather active, while this city is also considered the software Mecca and sometimes called India's Silicon Valley. Such a trend pushing towards 'open source' was visible during a United Nations Development Programme-organised meet to shape a UNDP-Government of India country programme on information and communication technologies (ICTs) for development held here on the weeked. Dominant global players, represented by firms like Microsoft, are hard-pressed to swim against the 'open source' demands. "Every technology has its pluses and minuses. If you find it is suitable for your purposes, go ahead and use it (open source software). But do an evaluation first. Don't be biased. Nothing is really free," argued Microsoft's manager for technical services in North India, Punya Palit. "It's not just the 'operating system' that is available, but some 1500 application softwares that come along with it," said Pune-based Systems Research Institute executive director Jagdish G Krishnayya. He pointed to the potential of software like Linux, which is getting increasingly noticed. 'Open source' or free software refers to non-proprietorial software that often allows its users to copy the programme across many computers, meaning that the cost of the software often plunges to unbelievable lows. Its proponents argue that while this may at first seem as affecting the viability of software businesses, it would throw open vast new fields to software usage in time to come. "Instead of spending money running after software piracy, the Government of India should spend the funds to promote open source software (which would also bring down piracy of proprietorial software)," Abraham argues. Other initiatives also give hint of the potential sought to be tapped in the field of open source software. Recently, UNDP's offices in the US were on the lookout for suitable Indian participants for a global conference, to be held in October at Washington-DC, on the use of 'open source for e-governance'. Delhi-based alternative organisation Sarai, affiliated to the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies (CSDS), along with a forum of lawyers in Bangalore and mahiti.org, plan to build a 'copyleft registry'. This would list all resources which are publicly accessible and freely reproduceable -- thus promoting its sharing, while at the same time protecting the rights of the person who created the work. But Abraham argues that public money -- spent on research institutions and universities -- should go towards building software that remains publicly-accessible, and thus 'open source'. He also points out that big names worldwide -- including Nasa, Nato and Walt Disney -- were going in for open source software, and there was no justification for India not. NGO workers and IT specialists also point to other related issues that block the power of computing in a country like India. Besides the software blocks, there are other factors hampering the greater use of computers in this country of a thousand million people but where PCs sold each year are barely two million or less. Computing was not benefiting the commonman because it was being divided by multiple standards, multiple vendors, its too-expensive nature, solutions that don't fit Indian requirements, and more importantly the lack of adequate and affordable local language technologies, it was pointed out. "There is this hype created by computer vendors that hardware needs to be updated constantly," says Government of Madhya Pradesh commissioner for family welfare Aruna Sharma, agreeing at this meet in some way on the need for countries like India to look to alternatives to battle the so-called 'digital divide' that excludes the poor from the power of computing. Pointing to other options coming up, Dr P Venkatachalam of the Indian Institute of Technology (Mumbai) said that India expects to have satellites that would offer hi-tech 'cartosat' information with detailed images in some two years time. But, he cautioned, the country would probably have not yet built up enough capacity and skills to make optimal use of such images, which could have considerable applications in rural areas and development. As this workshop pushed the attention on using ICTs for development, Government of India's Department of IT e-governance director S.P.Singh said fishermen in parts of the country -- particularly the southern Maharashtra coast -- were already using suitable technology. Some in Ratnagiri, coastal Maharashtra, had gained some access to low-cost fish-finders, global-positioning systems that identified their location and communication equipment which was being used to boost fish-catches.

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whats = do in syslog.conf
by akshaysalkar 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

Does any one know what '=' does in the syslog.conf? well i know the reg. exps. *, ! etc. but could not really understand the 'man' about '='. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Samba file server.
by akshaysalkar 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

u can enable shares for samba in [homes] section and for windows by enabling the share of the drive or directory. linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in wrote: Hi, I had setup a samba file server for my corporate. and it is functioning well. I need some help on setting up path to a share. ie, the executable programs like foxpro, norton utilites,I need to set the path while logging into the server. Is there any way to do this. Pls anyone advice me. thanks in advance Rajesh. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy Music, Video, CD-ROM, Audio-Books and Music Accessories from http://www.planetm.co.in Change the way you talk. Indiatimes presents Valufon, Your PC to Phone service with clear voice at rates far less than the normal ISD rates. Go to http://www.valufon.indiatimes.com. Choose your plan. BUY NOW.

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Linux Cd
by Abhijeet More 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Hi, For the GNU/linux cds, check http://www.linuxplaza.org http://www.indiainfotech.org ciao abhijeet

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Hardware: HDD Query
by Amol Hatwar 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 Sachin wrote : >hi there, >i am having trouble with Samsung 40GB hard disk >HDD detection on my linux 7.0 >and 440 BX/LX VIA Mother Board >with 64 mb ram could you be more descriptive please? Error messages etc. what trouble are you getting?

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[COMMERCIAL] SysAds Required / CISA,CISSPs Required
by Nilesh Chaudhari 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Hi! Guys, The company where I work needs system administrators with the following requirements - * Should possess a BE degree with atleast 1 year of system administration experience. * Extensive knowledge of Linux/OpenBSD. * Strong on TCP/IP & Networking * Extensive knowledge of Proxies/Mail/DNS/FTP servers * Well versed with Firewall architectures and IDSes * Strong Shell / Perl Scripting Skills. * Very good communication skills. * Based in Mumbai. Additionally, there is also a requirement for CISA/CISSP certified guys with following criteria - * Should possess atleast 2 years experience in the security field. * Should have CISA / CISSP certification * Should have excellent communication skills * Strong verbal, written and organizational skills. * Strong Technical skills are an advantage. Please contact me off-list at nileshch(a)yahoo.com with your CVs. Nilesh Chaudhari. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to sell your car? advertise on Yahoo Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos.yahoo.com

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C Programming and Vi
by Nikhil Joshi 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

hi! I'm trying to adapt to C-Progamming in Linux (We have our B.E. project on Neural Networks and we are supposed to write the c programs in Linux) I find the Vi features set cindent and syntax on very helpful. After writing the program I have to press ctrl-z ,run gcc ,check the errors , fg This is very annoying.I would like to compile the program in vi itself, see the errors,go to the line causing the error,and then if the compile is succsessful run the program. Is this possible ? (I guess this is possible with some tinkering with .vimrc) Can anyone please post his .vimrc Are there any good ide's exclusively for character mode ? I checked out freshmeat but did not find any good ide (I've used Anjuta but I would like console based ide) Please help -- Nikhil Joshi

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Statistical Analysis in PHP
by kapil_karekar＠vsnl.net 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

hi guys, I have a mysql database with some statistical data. I need to write a php script to perform analysis on that data. Does anybody know any functions in PHP which would help me to calculate mean, standard deviation, cross tabulation, variance from the tables in mysql database. cheers kapil

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Linuxers August 2002