Linuxers December 2004

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Re: how to install from hdd....
by SHAILESH MAHADIK 05 Dec '04

05 Dec '04

Dear Rohit, I have done many such installations ( I was forced ..) (Necessity is the MOTHER of INVENTION they say ....) Infact I always prefer HDD installation cause they are much faster and don't require Cd changing also U need to create a the ISO images of the Cd's and place them in one partition.( u can use a seperate directory too....) Type may be FAT or EXT ( avoid NTFS) U must now the partition naming convention eg /dev/hdc1 ,/dev/hda5 ... Since U have opted the HDD installation I assume U know the way to get there... Regarding making the ISO.... U can use X-Cdroast if u know and are comfortable.. If u don't have a Gnu/Linux machine up.. Then try Knpoppix and U can find X-cdroast in it.. if U prefer command line: issue this command in the directory U want the image /dev/cdrom refers to Ur cdrom device dd if=/dev/cdrom of=FC_Disk_1.iso Note the of==output file, and U can give any name U want above is just a example (Please Choose Different Name for each Cd.. I know U know that ....Just Kidding ) Regarding Add -Remove Package.. It automatically check for CD-Rom for Disks and not where U installed from... OF-Course Unless U tweak it to do so ?? Now Once U have iso What are U waiting for then....... Start the installation........ Happy GNU-ing............. Do tell me Whether I was of any help or not .... Regards, Shailesh ===== Technology is driving Me CRAZIER .... But Who said I Want To Be SANE !!!! Original Author of Signature :Shailesh.S.Mahadik (ssmahadik(a)yahoo.com) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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KPPP Problem solved
by Rony Bill 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

The problem of no site opening in KPPP has been resolved, although I don't know if the method is right. After a bootup, the 'Network Device Control' has to be called up first to activate any of the dialup accounts ppp0, ppp1, ppp2 ....The modem will dial to the ISP and then the sites open. The connection should be now closed to run kppp. Closing this connection is also tricky as it is never shown as 'active', either the RedHat software has bugs or its the third party modem driver problem, I really don't know. So a trick method was tried and it works. The 'activate' button is clicked for the same active connection and that interrupts the modem to start dialing again. As it starts dialling, click the 'activate' button again and this time the window waits. Immediately click on the 'X' button on the top right corner to simply close the window. This stops the dialing. Come out of 'N D C' and then use kppp as if nothing ever was wrong, till you reboot again. Regards, Rony.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Qt Licence and GTK.
by sherlock＠vsnl.com 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

On Saturday 04 December 2004 09:42, Srinivasan Krishnan wrote: > On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 23:32, sherlock(a)vsnl.com wrote: > > On Friday 03 December 2004 08:40, Srinivasan Krishnan wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 06:28, risqer wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Is Qt free now, I mean"free as in speech" ? > > > > > > Dual licenced - GPL/QPL (QT Public licence, akin to the GPL) > > > for GPL'd apps, and commercial seat based licencing for > > > commercial > > > > wrong terminology. U presume that GPL'd software are not > > commercial.GPLd applications can be very commercial. The right > > terminology would be "non GPL'd". > > > > This isn't the first time that an incorrect / misleading > > statement about GPL / commercial software has appeared on the > > list. Please take care not to mislead. > > > > > apps. Check their website for details. > > > > > >From one of their PRs > > > > "As before, any user who wishes to create proprietary or closed > > source software must first purchase a development license from > > Trolltech." > > JT, > > Please look before you leap (or comment in this case). Please read > the I have not only RTFL but written to Trolltech about the utterly misleading statement on commercial / GPL software. They replied with a wishy washy thing about trying to look into the matter (apparently they are still trying more than a year later). But the PR is very clear. > > The Qt Open Source Editions may be freely copied and distributed, > put on FTP sites and CD-ROMs, etc., under the same open-source > licenses that they are supplied with. This is completely different > from the Qt Commercial Editions which cannot be distributed at all. > > </snip> > > They state that the code content of the GPL/QPL edition is > identical to the *Commercial Edition*, but however clearly > differentiate the commercial edition by labelling it as such. That > is what I meant when I made the original post. While I have no > desire to get into a flame war over this, I wish you wouldn't use > terms like "misleading" and "incorrect" without RTFM. I stand by both statements. IMNHO Trolltech's attempt to explain the difference between GPL'd / Commercial software is misleading and incorrect and your mail does not clarify this, which is akin to "agreement". The fact is that GPL'd software can be very commercial and can be distributed for any consideration deemed fit except changing the terms of the GPL. (just hoped into flame proof shelter ;-). rgds jtd

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Salary Survey
by Devdas Bhagat 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

On 04/12/04 19:49 +0000, Saswata Banerjee wrote: > List Admin, > > this thread is more important to the community than many of the other > discussions that are taking place. All discussions should remain in the > group and not offline. I would normally expect such surveys to be summarised by the OP. Devdas Bhagat

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Salary Survey
by Saswata Banerjee 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

List Admin, this thread is more important to the community than many of the other discussions that are taking place. All discussions should remain in the group and not offline. Don't forget that linux has as much commercial aspect as proprietory software has. Regard saswata Linuxers Admin <linuxers-admin(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> wrote: __________ >Before this thread gets out of hand, please consider if your reply is >relevant to the community as a whole from a FOSS pov. The original >poster did ask for replies to be sent directly to him, please do that >instead of mailing the list on this thread. > >-- >List Admin > >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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Qt Licence and GTK.
by risqer 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

Hi, Is Qt free now, I mean"free as in speech" ? And is GTK better than Qt ? Thanks for help. -- Regards, Saurabh Sawant. (risqer).

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Re: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Salary Survey
by Raseel Bhagat 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

i agree with Biju. The deal is that programmers working on Windows Platform,with a year's experience gets 20Ktake home plus perks and benefits. If the Linuxenthusiasts gets lessdough then his Windows counterpart, no matter what you say about sharin' and open source, or whatever, its gonna serve as a detterent to him and thus to the FLOSS,etc. movements also. I say this because I have gone through this stage, and though now I am a wiser, a couple of years ago,I was ready to put Linux as nothing but just a hobby cuz "out there" no one seemed to pay you enough for it. On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 BIJU KRISHNAN wrote : >The Salary shd be no less than 12k take home if the guys exceptionally talented, no need for much exp. > >A good C on GNU-Linux\Unix programmer with one year exp shd get no less than 20,000 take home. > >Tests and interviews shd be kept rigourous but salary shd not be a compromise for the right talent. > >The above statements are my personal opinion. > >bye rgds > >bijuCyborg > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >-- >http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers Raseel Bhagat

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Salary Survey
by BIJU KRISHNAN 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

The Salary shd be no less than 12k take home if the guys exceptionally talented, no need for much exp. A good C on GNU-Linux\Unix programmer with one year exp shd get no less than 20,000 take home. Tests and interviews shd be kept rigourous but salary shd not be a compromise for the right talent. The above statements are my personal opinion. bye rgds bijuCyborg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[Commercial] Perl & C++ Consulting
by Saswata Banerjee & Associates 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

Hi My collegues at Pragati Software (who are in Corporate Training, Including Linux) have received an urgent request from one of their clients for help is solving a specific problem involving interworking between Perl and C / C++. The work is estimated at between 1-2 days presence at client office. We Quote below specific portion of the mail from the client. "I am specifically looking for help on interworking between Perl and C/C++. I want to be able to call Perl modules/subroutines and pass parameters from C/C++ programs and from those subroutines/modules I need to call the C/C++ class/function and pass parameters. My basic objective is to make an C/C++ application externally scriptable. Perl provides an excellent method for that (XS, SWIG, perlguts, perlembed, perlapi, etc.). However, if you have any other suggestions, I am open to them as well." The person should be able to solve their problem and train the programers on how to do it in future. If anyone on the group is capable of undertaking this assignment, please immediately call : Mrs. Preeti Sharma, Director, Pragati Software Pvt. Ltd. Mob: 98202 93357 email: preeti.sharma(a)pragatisoftware.com Regards saswata

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Chat on linux
by Iqbal Dehlvi 04 Dec '04

04 Dec '04

Dear All, Like the mailing list can we have some sort of chat IRC channel. may be it will be useful or may be it will not. seniors can think abt this. Regards ID

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