Linuxers December 2005

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Easier Path to GNU/Hurd
by (रेवंत) Revan t Nandgaonkar 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

Should I install GNU/hurd from Debians Distro CD, which they released on 25th Oct, 2005. Will it be easier than installing crosshurd? revant

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[Commercial] [OT] Require old PCs- P1/P2/P3s
by Abhishek Daga 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

Hi, I am looking to get some old/used PCs. Here are the basic specs I am looking for: P1/P2/P3/Celeron 500 Mhz or so. 128 MB RAM Minimum. CDROM if possible. minimum 5 GB HDD. Monitor/keyboard/mouse (optional). If you have any such boxes lying around and want to dispose it off, contact me offlist with the specs and the price you are looking for. Looking to get 2-3 such machines as soon as possible. thanks! abhishek Ignorance is Strength. What you don't know cannot hurt you. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Web Application Development
by Joel A Divekar 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

Hi All I have a database application developed in perl. I want to put it online ASAP using Mason. System details are as follows Ubuntu 5.10 Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.0.5-2ubuntu1 mod_perl/2.0.1 Perl/v5.8.7 To test my system I need to execute following script : ===================== modsec-test.pl #!/usr/bin/perl print "Content-type: text/plain\r\n\r\n"; print "\n\n"; print "----------------------------------------\n"; print "This is used by mod_security regression \n"; print "tests in order to verify that the module\n"; print "works as it is supposed to.\n"; print "----------------------------------------\n"; print "\n\n"; foreach $var (sort(keys(%ENV))) { $val = $ENV{$var}; $val =~ s|\n|\\n|g; $val =~ s|"|\\"|g; print "${var}=\"${val}\"\n"; } ===================== When I try to execute following script from the browser I get following 500 error : =============== Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@localhost and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.0.5-2ubuntu1 mod_perl/2.0.1 Perl/v5.8.7 Server at localhost Port 80 =============== But the same script executes properly if run from console i.e perl -T modsec-test.pl Apache2 error log says : ===================== Loading Apache2::Request at runtime. You could increase shared memory between Apache processes by preloading it in your httpd.conf or handler.pl file [Wed Dec 14 23:25:16 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Can't locate object method "new" via package "Apache2::Request" at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Mason/ApacheHandler.pm line 908.\n ===================== Did google / ask, but could not locate any workable solution. Please I need get Mason working ASAP and deploy this application online. Regards Joel 9821421965

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FLOSS 3D animation...
by Frederick Noronha (FN) 15 Dec '05

15 Dec '05

This is something interesting I read in the linux-magazine.com: Not so long ago, professional quality 3D animation required expensive workstations. The software they ran, for example, Maya (Unlimited Vision), cost more than $15,000 early in 2002, and the software technology was hidden behind restictive licenses. What's the 3D animation process? The process starts with modeling the shape of the 3D object. The next stage is texturing, that is, adding a kind of skin. This step gives the model a natural looking surface with light reflexes and a surface structure. UV mapping projects 2D bitmaps (such as wood grains) onto the 3D surface; in its simplest form, this is like posting a bill on an advertising column. The 3D model can then be animated. In the rigging process, joints are added to the figure. The joints allow the the artist to move a complex object like a puppetter moves a puppet. After completing the basic animation scene, the animator adds special effects, such as water, fire, or smoke. The scene is then lit by positioning light sources, just like in conventional movie making. The post production is concerned with optimizing the nearly-finished product, coming it with the movie or video scenes, and adding a soundtrack. Also: Normally, many different programs are used to create a 3D animation. First of all, you need a program to create the 3D models. In most cases, animation and rendering (conversion of finished models to photo-realistic images) are handled by separate programs. Rendering is so vastly complext that it typically requires a specialized tool. Some useful software: Wings3D, simplifying complex shapes http://www.wings3d.com Blender, the only FLOSS program that covers all steps in 3D production http://blender.org [Blender's strengths is its speed, which is superior to commercial products. But Blender mainly uses subwindows that are full of buttons and slide controls. The itnerface design lacks logical consistency. Even such simple functions as cut and paste take some getting used to in Blender, as they use [Alt] + [C] or [Alt] + [V], rather than the more typical [Ctrl] keys. This is due to the fact that Blender was designed as an in-house solution for the NeoGeo animation studio. K3D, one more recent developments in the 3D fields. K3D's major strength is it's a targeted new development based on current experience http://k3d.sourceforge.net Yafray, currently the most powerful free rendering tool http://www.yafray.org Toxic, a rendering tool based on physically exact computing http://www.toxicengine.org Aqsis, provider most complete support for RenderMan standard syntax for 3D model definition http://www.aqsis.org Povray (documentation, community) http://povray.org Jahshaka, might close the gaps in the near future http://www.jahshaka.org Cinelerra, another possible candidate to allow studios to handle whole prodocution cycle for computer-generated movie making with FLOSS software. http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3 ------------------------------------------------------------- ILUG-Goa meets next on December 17, 2005,3-5 pm Science Centre -- ------------------------------------------------------------- | India Linux Users' Group, Goa | | Join the friendly user group | | Mail list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa/join | ---------------------------------------------------------- | | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teach-yourself-linux | | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilug-goa-announce | | http://www.iosn.net/country/india/organizations/ilug-goa/ | ------------------------------------------------------------- , , / \ .-. * SOFTWARE ((__-^^-,-^^-__)) (. .) * FREEDOM `-_---' `---_-' / V \ * SHARING `--|o` 'o|--' // \\ \ ` / /( )\ KNOWLEDGE IS POWER ): :( '.^^_^^.' SHARE IT EQUITABLY :o_o: \_/ \_/ "-"

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sarge dvd iso differing sizes
by JTD 14 Dec '05

14 Dec '05

Sarge dvd iso have varying sizes from -ve to 4.6gb. ftp://ftp.softnet.tuc.gr/pub/linux/debian-dvd/ debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.iso -2097152k download continues past 5GB http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-dvd/ debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.iso 4.4G fails to download beyond 3.91GB wget says download complete. ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/jigdo-dvd/ debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.iso -2097152k stuck with a download of 3.91gb. Any ideas. -- rgds jtd -- rgds jtd

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KDE India launched
by Amit Karpe 14 Dec '05

14 Dec '05

Hi all , FYI . ______________________________________________________ [KDE-india] KDE India launched From: Sirtaj Singh Kang <taj(a)kde.org> To: kde-india(a)kde.org Date: Sat Dec 10 12:40:26 2005 Hi folks, I am proud to announce the formal launch of the KDE India project and website http://in.kde.org/ - more news of the launch on the Dot at http://dot.kde.org/1134244310/ Thanks to the hard work of Ananth, Pradeepto and Till we are now full members of the KDE family. On a personal level I'm really thrilled that this has happened, and immensely grateful to you, our founding members. It was lovely to meet you all at FOSS.IN and hope that each of us treats this group as their own. Regards, thanks and welcome to KDE.in! -Taj. _______________________________________________ KDE-india mailing list KDE-india(a)kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india ______________________________________________________ Regards. -- Amit. ______________________________________________________ param vaibhavam netum etat swaraashtram samrthaa bhavatwaashishaa tebhrusham || Bharat Maata Ki Jay ||

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GNU/Hurd Users Group
by प्रव ीण् ए (Praveen A) 14 Dec '05

14 Dec '05

Hi, If anyone is a GNU/HURD user/developer, please register at http://i-hug.sarovar.org If you have any Debian/HURD CDs please make an entry on "HURD CDs for Grab" section, so programmers nearest your locality could borrow the CDs from you. Thanks, Praveen A -- "GNU is the system, and Linux is the kernel." A proud GNU user http://www.gnu.org Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr

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RE: [ILUG-BOM] New to Linux
by Pillai, Gishu R (GE Infra, Energy) 14 Dec '05

14 Dec '05

>> reviews of this group on NU seem to be really gloomy. >gloomy??. Nu is the your only ray of hope visible in the isp sky. >EIGHT whole hrs of unlimited download at +220kbps. God i thank thee >for MTNL. >jtd MTNL has opened a floodlit freeway. I'm on it.. never looked back yet. There are some days when you feel like Duke Nukem talking to the tech-aliens (may I add very patient and polite aliens at that) at the other end of the CC line.. but things clear out soon. Gishu

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What is GNU
by (रेवंत) Revan t Nandgaonkar 14 Dec '05

14 Dec '05

is Gnu mach capable of loading kernels from other operating systems on the top of it? in theory? revant

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Internet Explorer Emulation on linux
by Abhishek Daga 14 Dec '05

14 Dec '05

Hi, Is there anyway we can emulate internet explorer on linux? (any distro?) While testing out sites (Especially when using CSS), it's a pain to see things display differently than intended in IE. Considering that most people use a combination of WinXP/98+IE combo, we cannot ignore this demographic and i dont want to use up a machine on windows just for testing. I am sure this problem has been faced by others too, so any help would be highly appreciated. thanks! abhi Ignorance is Strength. What you don't know cannot hurt you. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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