Linuxers October 2006

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Re: cdrecord 2.0 (Roshan)
by Vihan Pandey 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

> > From: Roshan <d_rosh2001(a)yahoo.co.in> > To: Linux User group <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:29:39 +0100 (BST) > Subject: [ILUG-BOM] cdrecord 2.0 > I don't know much about cdrecord, and its man pages > specify only SCSI drives for writing to CD. > > Is it so, that cdrecord is one of the command line > options only for *SCSI* optical drives? (CD Writers) > > I currently use K3b to write CD's, but wanted to try > out cdrecord, and it seems as if there's no ATA > support with it, is it? pre kernel 2.6 CD writing ``requires" a SCSI device or SCSI emulation. This was mainly because ATAPI support was not present in the IDE driver. This has been corrected in kernel 2.6 onwards. You can very well use cdrecord, provided you have SCSI emulation enabled. Consequently cdrw tools became the norm for CD writing. Regards, - vihan

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[Commercial]Share Your Views With LFY
by Niraj Sahay 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

Hello All, Greetings from the LINUX For You magazine team! As you all know, we run a section called 'Opinions' in LFY where we pose a question to the community and industry and publish the top five responses (selected by our technical editors) in the magazine. Thanks to all those who responded to the last month's question. The best among the responses received have been published in the October 2006 issue of LFY. This month we have chosen the topic: "Intellectual Property Rights - boon or bane?" What's your take on this? Our eyes and ears are wide open and we are waiting to listen to your ideas. Please write to us at sujata.banerjee(a)efyindia.com with a CC to atul(a)efyindia.com, before 12th October 2006. The top five responses will be published in the November 2006 issue of LINUX for You. Look forward to your responses. Thanks, Sujata Banerjee, Editorial Coordinator, LFY Atul Goel, Asst. Associate Editor, LFY

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Re: Linux as a status symbol.
by Roshan 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

Rony Wrote: > Just curious to know, do the colleges use the WGA > programme and keep > their college pcs up to date with the latest > critical updates? My college has its server running Windows 2003 and all thick clients with Windows XP. Of them, some have Windows Update turned on, while some don't. In previous years, there have been viruses spreading all over the network. Now, things have changed a bit. We already have one AMC Engineer, but I think, we need one more. http://360.yahoo.com/sriram4420 __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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radio guided sign post forgotten!
by krishnakant Mane 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

hello all, seams the project for radio guided sign post is not on the minds of any of the members out here. what should be our next step. we had the meeting rather two meetings and the project seams to have stopped at that point. jtd, could you please email me off the list and provide your contact number. I had lost it some time back. anurag had given some nice ideas in the meeting at HBCSE and I think we can start with it for a simple system. anurag please comment on this. the bar code reading was also a good idea to do a prototype at a very cheep rage. Krishnakant.

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Re: Linus on Linux and the GPLv3
by Roshan 08 Oct '06

08 Oct '06

Philip Tellis Wrote: > http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/9/25/161 > Interesting insights about licencing of the kernel. Seems as if the FSF gained a control over Linus and forced the name GNU/Linux. What RMS said in his public lecture was, that they had to build an operating system and they had started developing components for it. They were left alone without the kernel and luckily, they could find Linus, who was ready to give away the source code of the kernel he developed. Therefore, the GNU project was successful in completion of an Operating System with Linux as its kernel. I had always thought of any Linux distro, the entire operating system, as GNU/Linux and Linux as the kernel of this OS. GNU/Linux because, most of the the application programs that I used were "FREE" software. For newbies like me, the above mentioned link would resort to more discussions and arguments over an active mailing list like GLUG-BOM! __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: Report of BoF on wiki
by Roshan 08 Oct '06

08 Oct '06

Kenneth Gonsalves Wrote: > the andheri bof was great - Roshan, > please post the > minutes of that too. As requested, I have posted it on the wiki and is accessible at the following URL. (3rd October 2006) http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Report031006 If there are corrections, please notify me. Rony Wrote: >When was the Andheri BOF announced on this list? It wasn't announced. Why? I hope, the report answers this question. __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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Re: Vista's bad, GNU/Linux's good?
by Roshan 08 Oct '06

08 Oct '06

Dinesh Joshi, is specifying GNU/Linux users to be a friend of Linux distros and _not_ an enemy of Microsoft Windows. Otoh, those who are bashing Windows, say that because, places where Windows should *not* have been the OS on computer, it still is. Both are correct in their own ways. For people who have been using computers and been in this field for serveral years (from 1992 onwards), would say primarily target Microsoft Windows because, that year saw the rise of Windows 3.1. and the success followed, though Microsoft had worse legal battles in its early years. RMS's essays in those days too had bits and pieces of Microsoft's software products, as evident on the GNU's website. However, the list members may use a more generic term "Non-free Software", but again, it wouldn't actually mean that all non-free software is really bad (SUN?) __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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anti-piracy tool in Vista offers Window of opportunity for Linux
by BombayNews 07 Oct '06

07 Oct '06

Dear all, I think the anti-piracy tool in Vista offers a Window of opportunity for supporters of Linux. Rather than bung in a long post here, I have detailed post on my blogs: www.bombaywatcher.sulekha.com www.bombaywatcher.blogspot.com Shiv Kumar

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Re:pppoe inconsistency problem.
by अिनकॆत (Aniket) 06 Oct '06

06 Oct '06

> hello, > I had configured roring penguine yesterday with the help of rony. > it worked yesterday. > I had configured it with ./go and it asked me the eth interface I gave > it the right one. > then it asked me the username and password. after that it asked me if > I want it it to come up on demand and also the time for which I want > it to stay up. > I said yes I want it on demand. > but I did not specify the amount of time I want it to be up. > yesterday it was working fine but today it is not working. > it is starting properly with pppoe-start but it is not connecting to > the internet. > Krishnakant. When you connect like this, all logs are saved to /var/log/messages post these messages here ,so we can debug it -- The Future is Open...The Future is LINUX

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Re: A Desktop Concept
by Vivek Rai 06 Oct '06

06 Oct '06

> True but this graphical no-window animated desktop ( From now on, lets > term this desktop as Animated Desktop ) will fill the gap between users > and non-users. I totally agree with you. I remember seeing something similar in an 1996 compaq PC (with win 95).. basically, on top of the OS, compac had some layer which provided that kind of an easy interface.. i dont know the full details... but my cousin's computer illiterate family realy used to prefer that over navigating complex menus... A primary Fitts' law on UI design is about making targets easy to acquire .. all menu based navigations violate that .. and can be surprisingly complex for newbies. > India still has a lot of scope for adding new users who > otherwise keep away from PCs. This is also aimed at helping senior > citizens. It is not meant to be used in a professional environment. In > linux we have the facility of switching desktops so by default the new > animated desktop automatically starts and when an advanced user from the > same family wants to sit on the pc, he/she will switch to the normal > desktop till the machine reboots again. In windows we can't do that so > we got an edge over them. I agree, FLOSS can gain significant market share and penetration in the currently untapped markets like India where many middle class or elderly people are still not using computers because of accessiblity/localization issues. What you are asking for is a really nice idea, but I think we can create some easy solutions within existing and popular linux desktop environments.. hence maintaining compatiblity.. for example, Is this close to what you are talking about? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29692 or maybe you can use this as a starting point, and amend it suitably in any way you deem fit. maybe there are simlar ideas on having some kisk mode "animated desktop" on gnome/xfce too.. ? otherwise, multiple desktops also give us an ability to configure the UI in any way.. for example we can rename desktop 1,2,3,4 to somethng like multimedia, internet, Office, games.. etc.. and then have very large and visible, easily identifiable, relevant icons on each of them.. (just an idea)

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