Linuxers October 2006

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux compatible motherboards.
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

>> is easily fixed by going to the 'detect sound card' menu in GNOME >> and increasing the sound level using the slider there. Funnily the >> after exiting the utility, the slider goes back to where it was >> but the thing does not go mute. I suggest you try tinkering with >> any such utility if you have. > set the volumes and > alsactl store 1 > alsactl restore 1. put this in some startup script. Thanks, but it did not work out. I use system-config-soundcard to set the sound card volume levels to full. Then did: [rishi@Sunflower ~]$ sudo /sbin/alsactl store 1 [rishi@Sunflower ~]$ sudo /sbin/alsactl restore 1 On running system-config-soundcard the volumes are again at the mid-point of the bar. Is this a Fedora Core 5 bug? Anybody reported it already? Regards, Debarshi -- Microsoft does have a Y2K problem... it's called GNU/Linux!

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to do a minimal install?
by Arun Khan 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

----- Original Message ---- >From: Aniket Suryavasnshi <aniket.a.s(a)gmail.com> ... snip ... >tools of our choice separately and then compiled to form a complete OS. How >can it be done? Most distros have a minimum/base install options. You can also de-select the software packages you are not interested in - the installer will resolve dependencies on libraries and other packages. -- Arun Khan

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Re: RMS' visit to NIT Hamirpur
by Vihan Pandey 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

Hi Debarshi, <snip> > Dr. Richard Matthew Stallman (http://stallman.org/) will be giving a > public lecture in National Institute of Technology, Hamirpur, Himachal > Pradesh on the 25th of October, 2006. The proposed topic for the talk > is "Free Software, Free Society". This would take place immediately > after Dr. Stallman is done with his talk in the Air Jaldi Summit > (http://summit.airjaldi.com) in Dharamsala. > > There is no entry fee for attending the lecture. Everyone is invited. > Anybody willing or able to make the trip are encouraged to drop in. Best of luck organising, and great job convincing your college management to let him speak. Would have loved to visit Himachal this time of the year, but have to hold the fort in Mumbai :-) Great Job again ! Regards, - vihan

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10th Year of KDE
by Pradeepto Bhattacharya 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

Hi, Perhaps many of you know that today KDE celebrates 10 years of existence. It was today Matthias Ettrich announced [1] the starting of KDE project on Usenet. Some people in this list surely did read that one then and some later. From what I gather from talking to people, 10 years down the memory lane, some people thought it was the next cool thing and for the love of "hacking" joined the project. Some days later in October 1996, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer, started working on the first KDE class ever - KConfig ( that was the first KDE code as well ). Matthias Ettirch started working kwn at the same time. The first version of kdelibs ( kdelibs-0.0.1 ) was soon released. And guess what there was no svn, no cvs as well . Everything was tarred up and dropped in FTP server at the University of Tübingen. Humble beginnings. IIRC, Taj (Sirtaj Singh Kang) joined the project around those times as well. Today the KDE ( with 4 MLOC of code) and its libraries talk of a very rich well documented API and a great community. Many of its home grown technologies have been adapted by industry and there is co-operation happening as well in the same areas. Technologies like KIO,KHTML, KParts just make a developers job easy. And then there are loads of applications and upcoming new stuff like Phonon,Solid (with recent commits to the main trunk branch ) and other really cool stuff show a lot of promise. Have fun. Cheers! [1] http://www.kde.org/announcements/announcement.php Pradeepto -- The KDE Project : http://www.kde.org KDE India : http://www.kde.in Mailing List : http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-india

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Chipset and Original Motherboard
by Vihan Pandey 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

Hi all, <snip> > >> It's more important that one believes in the GNU philosophy and is > >> aware of > >> the differences between GNU and Linux > > > > i'm missing something here, is there anything different between the GNU > > philosophy and linux philosophy? > > Yes, there _is_ a major difference between the two. Linux philosophy is > about using/writing/promoting ``Open Source'' owing to technical > benefits. The GNU philosophy is about using/writing/promoting ``Free > Software'' for ethical reasons. > Very true, but in my original mail the intention was NOT to start a ``Free Software v/s Open Source Flame war". For a simple reason, i think making one's position very clear on what one believes AND giving good reason to do so is the only real way to make a difference. i think there have been more than enough flame wars on this topic, and the result is still a stale mate, which itself tells that there is no point fighting about it. The community split into Free Software and Open Source, and they are still two separate entities. They do collaborate as the principals governing the software are the same. The difference is that there is an operational definition of the term ``Free Software" as charcterised by the 4 principal freedoms it offers. ``Open Source" does not have an operational definition, but a semantic implication that software source code must be open. That's my stated position. Regards, - vihan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: need a tally alternative on gnu/linux.
by Abhishek Daga 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

>>>>>> Abhishek, may be we can have a small formal meeting with Kenneth if he is available. other interested people can also join in. the main point here is that once this problem of talli is solved, a huge community will embrace gnu/linux happyly. and bringing gnu/linux down to the common man is a major task still undone. regards. Krishnakant. <<<<<<<<< Not to belittle anyone's efforts, as KG has obviously done some splendid groundwork, but for it to be a box office success, there needs to be a dedicated team which will need to get paid. There can be guides, overseers, volunteers, helpers, but a dedicated team needs to be working on it full time and get paid at market rates. For this someone has to come up with a resource requirements list and then put it forward to the community who may choose to contribute towards it. Units can be A)Accountant B)Programmer C) infrastructure and with a set timeline, an opensource product can be achieved. Am sure there's a bunch of HNV individuals out there who wouldnt mind contributing big amounts provided they are shown a solid plan. Krishnakant has volunteered to be the pointman, which is great. Hope this time around, there can be a beta product by 2007 April and hopefully a full fledged app by 2008 april.

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Re: [OT] Chipset and Original Motherboard
by Vihan Pandey 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

Hi Kenneth, <snip> > > It's more important that one believes in the GNU philosophy and is > > aware of > > the differences between GNU and Linux > > i'm missing something here, is there anything different between the > GNU philosophy and linux philosophy? i was referring to the techinical difference between the GNU system and the Linux kernel. Regards, - vihan

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] need a tally alternative on gnu/linux.
by Abhishek Daga 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

<----- Original Message ----> From: krishnakant Mane <researchbase(a)gmail.com> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:09:25 AM Subject: [ILUG-BOM] need a tally alternative on gnu/linux. hello jtd, Abhishek, kenneth and other friends on the list. I could have specially sent this email off list to those whose names I mentioned at the top. but I want more people to read this email for spreading awareness because what I am going to ask is a new subject for me as well. I need an accounting software that falls under the FOSS model. it should compeet with Talli so that even common business men will use it. </end of original> With easy-to-use desktop guis available now in the form of ubuntu and probably some others, (more printer drivers, usb hot plugging, oo 2.0, gaim... and so on), the only thing preventing the 100s of thousands of non technical, small business users is an accounting package that will work on *nix and is of the same level of ease of installation and use and support as Tally. Pretty much all of them are using pirated windows and pirated office and pirated anti virus and downtime is very high due to malware, adware, viruses. But they have no choice because of lack of accounting applications. The day we can give them such an app with assured support, will be big enough to be declared a public holiday.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] need a tally alternative on gnu/linux.
by Abhishek Daga 14 Oct '06

14 Oct '06

<<<<<<<< ----- Original Message ---- From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org> To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.glug-bom.org> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:36:22 AM Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] need a tally alternative on gnu/linux. ok - fair enough, question is: does the next avatar need to be gui or web? The underlying engine can support either or both. And incidently, the reason why progress is stalled is that i lack accounting domain knowledge to proceed - some one said, give me a lever and i will overturn the world. I say, give me an accountant and i will produce a kick-ass FA package. >>>>>>>>>>> The primary requirements are: a) Click Click type installation. If you know what i mean. b) Minimal use of the Mouse. ( I am using the new yahoo mail beta version with gallons of ajax. Ajax may hold the key) c) When printing reports etc, the formatting should be proper. Taking into account standard page sizes etc. Ofcourse, intuitiveness, easy upgrades, security, support are the other primary requirements. Gui interface is also OK, provided it will not have dependency issues with various *nix flavors. I tried using Kalculate, but it is locked down to its custom distro. at 12000 a pop for unlimited users, tally makes for a very compelling choice. (this does not include cost of windows XP/Server).

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RMS' visit to NIT Hamirpur
by Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray 13 Oct '06

13 Oct '06

Dr. Richard Matthew Stallman (http://stallman.org/) will be giving a public lecture in National Institute of Technology, Hamirpur, Himachal Pradesh on the 25th of October, 2006. The proposed topic for the talk is "Free Software, Free Society". This would take place immediately after Dr. Stallman is done with his talk in the Air Jaldi Summit (http://summit.airjaldi.com) in Dharamsala. There is no entry fee for attending the lecture. Everyone is invited. Anybody willing or able to make the trip are encouraged to drop in. RSVP: debarshi.ray(a)gmail.com arjunbs(a)nitham.ac.in Cheers, Debarshi -- Microsoft does have a Y2K problem... it's called GNU/Linux!

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