Linuxers May 2007

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[OT] Airtel Broadband. Demand ADSL with router.
by Rony 14 May '07

14 May '07

Hello All, A client of mine subscribed to Airtel Broadband. I told the client to insist on an ADSL modem with router. This is like the self contained MTNL modem. Its advantage over the regular Airtel modems is that it does not need a pc to dial pppoe. The router ensures that the pcs are not directly exposed to the net and no pc needs to be dedicated as a server. The Airtel guy who came to install did not understand the idea first and after some beating about the bush, said that he will have to contact his tech. guys. Next day, they installed the wanted unit. So if you are using Airtel, you can insist on the independent modem cum dialer. If your net is down, at least they won't blame your pc or its interfaces. -- Regards, Rony. Knock Knock Who's There? Linux Who Linux? GNU/Linux

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Mandrake 2007
by Rony Bill 13 May '07

13 May '07

Hello All, Having heard a lot about Mandriva 2007, I decided to try it out on my laptop. It loaded well. Before actual install, some device configurations were necessary to be done like display driver, boot manager (changing lilo to grub), and some minor settings. Installation was smooth. It detected everything except my wireless card but it gave a message with a url to download certain firmware packages and they (*.fw) were downloaded and saved to the /lib/firmware directory. However wireless setup was a Pain..ITA. There was no direct link to up/down the interface and its a long route via 'configure your computer'. The kde wireless manager is lousy compared to the one in Kubuntu. At one time I had to use command line to control the interface. However even though verything was setup in the ifcfg-eth1 file, sometimes the sudo ifup eth1 command would not work properly. The software updater cannot find any repo site. On the web too I found some mirror sites but no description to manually add them to the package manager. I have yet to try out multimedia. In short, Kubuntu is much easier to configure and setup compared to Mandriva. "And the first prize goes to ....Kubuntu". Yeeaay. Regards, Rony ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk

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what's on the ubuntu dvd, any ideas?
by krishnakant Mane 13 May '07

13 May '07

hello all, I am doing an installation of a few computers with orca (the screen reader) for blind people. it is at a very remote village where internet is not very strong. I have to do a apt-get install for gnome-common and also apt-get build-dep gnome-orca. both this commands connect to the internet and need to download the packages. now what I am trying to understand is whether dvd is worth the download? will gnome-common be available on the dvd? I am aware that orca is indeed available so no worrys. I am only worried about the dependencies which apt-get downloads from internet. if dvd has most of what is on the web based repositories, then my requirements will be fulfilled and to make the computers accessible, I wont need internet. regards, Krishnakant.

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kde on ubuntu
by Kamal Paryani 12 May '07

12 May '07

hi i want to install kde on about 25 hosts on which ubuntu 7.04 is already installed i use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install kde it is a 198 mb download i dont want to download 198 mb on each host can i download on one location and use it to install kubuntu on all desktops regards kamal

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Konqueror Image rendering bug
by Roshan 12 May '07

12 May '07

Hello Lists, I browse using Konqueror with Images "turned off" so that large size images aren't fetched. (or for that matter any image, irrespective of its size). (sometimes, or at times use Mozilla Firefox) As per rules of W3C, the "alt" tag is compulsory for images, and Konqueror doesn't seem to read that attribute and display it when images are turned off. Therefore, I have filed a bug with kde's bug tracking system with Id 145224 (so that you can search the report of this bug). If you can vote for this bug, may be it'll get some attention and fixes for this will be applied. Konqueror has known to be pretty standards compliant and is the *fastest* browser (wow!, Ah! Wrong word ;) ). -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Click here: http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mandrake 2007
by Vickram Crishna 12 May '07

12 May '07

--- linuxers-request(a)mm.glug-bom.org wrote: > > From: Roshan <d_rosh2001(a)yahoo.co.in> > > --- mehul wrote: > > Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > >> what is software piracy? > > > Something that MS doesn't care of? > > Or possibly MS doesn't stretch its resources and > money > into going against it to the maximum or with highest > priority. I hear, that's because, they want > popularity, at cost some some losses. :-? What MS wants or focuses its budget towards is not the issue, and going down that road is not worth the discussion. Software is the set of rules that determines the utility of a piece of hardware, or many pieces of hardware when they (by the excellence of their software) work together. When that software is concealed, or the developer chooses to ignore the needs of different hardware users and prevents them from enjoying the same features, benefits etc, everyone loses, not just the users of that hardware. Piracy is an artefact of a select section of society. This was true when the term piracy was applied to sea-going merchants, who were licensed by their governments to kill and plunder everyone else, and is no less true today, when a group of 13 countries some 120 years ago (led by global supernation Haiti, in case you mistakenly thought this was all about superpowers) signed an agreement that is even today still being debated (the ink just won't dry). MS has chosen to work in the world of proprietary software, and this is a business decision of theirs. They are clinging to it, long after bigger or more impactful IT companies like IBM and Intel have seen the value of building businesses that do not pivot on the proprietary software spike. If they choose to move away from this stance, it will not affect the essential value of 'open' or 'free' software (just tags or jargon that have no more intrinsic value than the word 'proprietary'). Vickram ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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kacpid hogging CPU (with intel dual core)
by G Karunakar 12 May '07

12 May '07

Hi, I have this machine with a new mobo + intel dual core installed, running debian etch (kernel 2.6.18-4-686).. /proc/cpuinfo shows two processors.. the system as such seems slow with high enough latency.. and top shows kacpid constantly hogging.. 90-100% of CPU time always.., acpid is running, with thermal, fan, processor etc modules loaded.. what could be the issue? or how to fix it? has anyone faced similar issue with dual cores? (meanwhile i am compiling 2.6.20 with processor type dual core selected!) Karunakar

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Tataindicom datacard [OT]
by jtd 12 May '07

12 May '07

Where can i pickup a tataindicom datacard?. Their true value shops dont have any and will be able to deliver only 45 days later. I need one urgently. -- Rgds JTD

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nrc-foss node and meet on the 17th
by lawgon＠au-kbc.org 12 May '07

12 May '07

hi, as you know, NRC-FOSS (http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/) is planning to start a node at Mumbai. This node will help to coordinate/facilitate foss related activities in Mumbai especially in the following areas: 1. promoting foss in formal and non-formal education 2. popularising foss in schools, colleges, industry and ngos in the maharashtra region 3. fostering the writing and development of foss code in the area. To this end we hope to facilitate at least a couple of meetings/installfests or linux demo days a month in various establishments as well as help coordinate activities. It goes without saying that we cant achieve anything without active participation of the LUG. The node will in all probability be hosted by VJTI and we are having a meeting with the management and the managements of other colleges on the 17th morning at VJTI. We would like to discuss the scope and functioning of the node with members of the community in the afternoon/evening. I know it is a working day, but I hope a good number of members will take some time off to participate. The meeting will take place at the VJTI and exact place and time will be announced depending on the response we get here. Please respond to the list with your ideas, suggestions and whether you will be able to participate. Remember, we need you ... -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS

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(no subject)
by Roshan 11 May '07

11 May '07

Hello Lists, (see header) I am using Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) on my second hdd and three applications, Konqueror, Konverstaion and Kopete (yes, KDE - Kyonki haha) on my MTNL Triband line, without specifying the DNS. The automatically accepted DNS was the IP address of the ADSL Router / Modem. (D-Link 502 T) I wasn't able to get updates using apt-get because, the command would fetch the first URL and become stagnant with no network activity over the ethernet LED. I finally, decided to add the DNS servers provided by MTNL, and wow! apt-get could finally understand what it is supposed to connect to and fetched updates. Phew! Why didn't the K affect the 'K'onsole. Some other underlying protocol, perhaps? BTW, I managed to install Firefox (1.5.0.11) and have bookmarked two links on installing Firefox 2.0 on *buntu. These updates consumes a lot of my bits, and that brings me to a question! Can I (if I get one) use the Kubuntu 6.06 DVD as a source for installing common applications (such as say GCC 3.x or 4.x, Java 1.4.x JRE 1.5.x etc?) If yes, anyone in Mumbai with a Kubuntu 6.06 DVD? -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc __________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/

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