Linuxers March 2009

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dealing with flamers
by Suhit Kelkar 21 Mar '09

21 Mar '09

Many times flamers (we know who you are) think nothing of wasting public resources, others' time, and polluting public forums with things best not said. Since their statements are not strictly on the foul side of the moderation guidelines, IMO, they cannot be blocked from the list. In any case that's a dangerous trend. So what do you and I do? Do we put up with their tasteless emails, do we allow them to spread their ill cheer to us across the pipes? There is still something we can do. It's called cold treatment. Flamers are usually after recognition and attention. (Begin fictionalised quote) "I'm important! I can string a sentence together! I've been ignored all my life! YOU CAN'T IGNORE ME NO MORE! I CAN WIN TOO! YES I CAN! NO, REALLY! Here-- no, don't look away! Hey, LOOK AT ME! I have my worth, really! If you won't admire me, I'll FLAME YOU! I'm cool! I'm not worthless, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not! LOOOOOOK AT ME, WOOOOOAAAAAAH!" (End fictional quote) Flamers usually self-destruct if we give them the cold treatment. This is well-known, though it takes time. Even hardened prisoners usually come quiet at the prospect of solitary confinement. These flamers aren't evil. Let us isolate them. Let them shout their inanities to silence. They need a captive audience. But we refuse to be captive. Let us deny them the attention they crave, and watch them shrivel and shrink away. All we need is to stick to it.

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Best leave management system.
by Sachin 21 Mar '09

21 Mar '09

Hi, Can anybody point to me *free* good leave management system where employees can submit leave, get approved or declined on linux. 1. Get info on no of days leave taken 2. Leaves remaining. 3. Payslip details. etc Came across OrangeHRM but was not happy with that. Linux network gurus: Any suggestions ? --Sachin Check out the all-new face of Yahoo! India. Go to http://in.yahoo.com/

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Economic Times - there is no open source virtualization solution
by Arun Khan 20 Mar '09

20 Mar '09

The article is dated 13/Mar/09 out of Chennai. Per Mr. Sinha, CTO Times Business Solutions, there is no open source virtualization solution. <quote> However, companies looking at resource optimization holistically are also keen on virtualisation, for implementing which, there is no open source software. “However, virtualized hardware supports open source applications easily,” </quote> Read more at: <http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Internet_/Web_based_companies_…> You will also come to know that MySQL has become MySequel ... Please send your comments to the Editor ET (editet(a)timesgroup.com) requesting him/her to check facts before putting it on the web site. Also, submit your view under the "comments" section of the article. -- Arun Khan

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use of expletives on the FOSS list
by Suhit Kelkar 19 Mar '09

19 Mar '09

I do not know the persons in a recent flamewar, one of whom called the other an 'asshole' and the other, who apparently because of extreme vituperativeness in another flamewar has been blocked from the list. So, purely because of the use of the expletive, I also vote in favour of expelling the member who used it from the linuxers list. No matter who you are, no matter how powerful you are in the little Indian FOSS frogpond, you cannot get away with something like this or, can you? Guess that depends on the forum. And even usually dormant members do no like to get cusswords in their mailbox. If others too believe in the one person one vote principle, they should vote in this matter. If expletives are allowed today, tomorrow the atmosphere of the list could end up poisoned. Suhit Kelkar.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linuxers Digest, Vol 71, Issue 36
by Ashok Sinha 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

A Acer Aspire One is 17300 at lamington rd. I agree on the poorman bit. The only way the poor can have access to computer is free computer (cybercafes) in slum areas. Laptops are a long way from the poor. > > A handheld is more expensive than a cell phone. > If you are talking of eepcs LG is Rs.17500 afaik. > > Wonder what poorman would afford that. > > What exactly do you have in mind? > > > -- > Rgds > JTD > > > -- > http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers > -- Ashok Sinha

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Using Clive to convert youtube videos to audio mp3
by Rony 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

Hello, After attending Rajeev's video conferencing demo at Directi, I was inspired to try out new ways to use clive. Clive is a utility to download youtube videos and convert them using ffmpeg to mp4 videos to play in the popular players. The simple way to use clive is 'clive video_url' in the terminal. This results in an mp4 video getting stored in the current directory in which clive is run. However I wanted to convert the live videos to audio mp3 only. On the net there is no mention of how to use clive to do it. The man page of clive has one option '-w' to automatically write a config file which can then be edited. Run 'clive -w' to create this file. The file is created in your home directory under .clive/config. Now edit this config file and make 2 changes. 1) ## Path to the ffmpeg program (e.g. "/usr/local/bin/ffmpeg -y -i %i %o") path_ffmpeg="/usr/bin/ffmpeg -y -i %i %o" Uncomment the path_ffmpeg line to tell clive about the location of ffmpeg ( This is important ) 2) ## Uncomment to re-encode to FORMAT ("mpg", "avi", ..) ## Requires also path_ffmpeg reencode_format="mp3" Uncomment the reencode line and add mp3 in the "" quotes. This was a blind shot that worked. Clive is mainly a video utility. Save the file and now simply run 'clive video_url' and you first get the video.mp4 file. As soon as it is downloaded clive shows a message that it is converting it to video.mp4.mp3 Thats all. Your mp3 is ready to rock. As I had earlier downoaded only mp4 videos, I was looking for a way to use ffmpeg to convert them to mp3. From the man page options the following command was assembled using trial and error and it works. 'ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -acodec mp3 -ab 160k video.mp3' The -i specifies the input file, -acodec specifies the audio output codec and -ab sets the audio bit rate in bits/sec. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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External Proxy usage on squid.
by Sachin 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

Hi, We have a squid server running which looks into user access. Now there are users who would use a webproxy or a external proxy to bypass this restriction. Is there a way to stop them. One rule is to figure out all the proxy sites and address and feed them to blocked sites but that process doesn't look good and easy manageable. Any suggestions ? --Sachin Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/

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by Faraz S 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

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[Hardware] How much is too much?
by Rony 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

Hello, I am curious to know how many client machines can the MTNL triband routers practically support in a LAN in order to give decent internet connectivity to all? There is a LAN network where there are around 7 machines using static ips (not LInux) and the triband router is the gateway machine also attached to the LAN. When connected directly to a machine the internet connectivity is good but when all machines are up internet takes a long time to resolve and speeds are in bursts. When it keeps searching for the web page or there is no connectivity, one cannot even log into the router. Pinging the router is fine. The router too has been replaced by MTNL. The entire setup is spread across 4 floors. Initially the LAN wiring was suspected but the crimping of the router cable was done again and otherwise, internal file sharing works perfectly. I am suspecting that the router gets overloaded trying to NAT so many requests, given its tiny architecture. Should I install a separate router to this LAN? Are the separate routers designed to handle large NAT traffic? I want to avoid holding up one machine for internet sharing. Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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[OT] Reliable and cheap linux hosting solution
by Anand Saha 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

Guys, Would like to get your suggestions and recommendations for reliable and cheap linux hosting solutions. The site I am planning to host would not be a very high traffic site, moderate traffic. May be a couple of Gigs of data transfer per month (will have photo gallery), and will need around a Gig of disk space for the time being. -- God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.

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