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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Never buy a Reliance Telcom product
by Pankaj Jangid 28 May '09

28 May '09

True. Talking to them for the same problem again and again is more painful then spending a day without internet.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Never buy a Reliance Telcom product
by Pankaj Jangid 28 May '09

28 May '09

But there was no alternative available in the market. There is BSNL but they do not cover Delhi. MTNL is not providing data connections; only some value added services over 3G. I am regreting the decision and again.

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Linux OS Inoperable
by SUBHASH UDIAVAR 27 May '09

27 May '09

Hi everybody, I was introduced by Anurag, after finding out his mail in the open forum while surfing the Net to set my problem. He had suggested to be part of the mailing list which I have done, however the site refuses to open up for me for unknown reasons repeatedly stating that the the username and/or password is incorrect dspite inputtting the correct details.I have experienced a snag on my desktop which is loaded with a LINUX OS way back in 2005. In fact, the OS was installed by my friend who is terribly sick and I feel it indecent to call him for this, we are in the late fifties. One would be wondering as to what I was doing all these years, Yes, I was operating my WIN XP Pro thru the laptop which I have carried to almost all cities in India and a couple of times abroad when on duty tour. Now I am a relaxed and retired guy. This Linux OS is installed on a pc having Athlon CPU on a Asus motherboard. I used to use the PC for as much as 5 years prior to my friend installing the Linux OS on the same PC with XP home and the other day after opening the desktop I had to update all the MS prog and you well know it took me almost 5 hours, maybe more to download and install. The switch provided by my friend, a toggle switch to 'switchover' from the XP to Linux ( after shutting off the PC) and I saw it is working fine as when in a particular direction the OS switches either to XP or Linux. On opening the Linux OS I found after booting which must be taking less than a minute or slightly more faced with a login page. I appreciate my friend that he has mentioned both my login ID and password within the Linux symbol for ease of use and on punching these details the 'login failed' pops up. As I am new I was wondering if you could help in solvingin starting my Linux OS. Something like disabling the login itself or in the least to reprogram the login dialogue. Please remember- *I am a novice as far as PCs go *and use it mostly to surf,mail and IM etc. Trust I have contacted the correct persons for the advice. Grateful if one of you could help me out. Thanks and regards SBUdiavar *PS: Could somebody post this on the forum page please as I can not do it due to login prob I'm facing in the ILUG site. Thnx.*

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[X-POST] Call for "I Know What You Are Going To Do This Summer 2009"
by Kushal Das 24 May '09

24 May '09

Hi all, We are happy to announce "I Know What You Are Going To Do This Summer 2009",[1] a free (as in freedom), online (IRC-based) [2] training sessions for wannabes to Free/Libre/Open Source Software at #dgplug on irc.freenode.net [3]. If you are a mentor, or trainer, or prospective enthusiast who would like to participate in this years' sessions please go through last years' IRC logs: http://www.dgplug.org/irclogs/ We will have a review or Q&A session on last years' sessions before we proceed into new topics, this year. The session timings are mostly varying, usually after 1900 IST every day. If you are interested in participating, please confirm your participation by sending an off-list mail to me (kushaldas AT gmail DOT com). Poster: http://kushaldas.in/tmp/summer_training-small.png URL: http://dgplug.org/intro/ Planet: http://planet.dgplug.org/ Wiki: http://wiki.dgplug.org/ Mailing list group (for queries, discussions): http://lists.dgplug.org/listinfo.cgi/users-dgplug.org [1] http://wiki.dgplug.org/index.php/SummerTraining09 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo Regards, Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in

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[OT] Net PC catching on...
by Rony 23 May '09

23 May '09

Hello, Finally with broadband speeds improving, the concept of a low cost thin client net pc seems to be catching on. http://www.domain-b.com/companies/companies_b/Bharti_Tele-Ventures/20090523… -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom.

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avsap is back
by Kenneth Gonsalves 23 May '09

23 May '09

hi, I have updated avsap to run on the wxPython 2.8.9.1. It is available here: svn co https://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/helpline/branches/avsap avsap for those who do not know the history of avsap, it was used in production for several years by some clients of mine, was first released in perl and then later ported to python. Unfortunately in 2003, installation was extremely difficult as cool things like yum and apt-get were not there. Since not one of the thousand or so people who downloaded it was successful in installing it, I got fed up and stopped maintaining it. I will maintain and develop it if a few people show interest in using it. I think it is the only accounting software in India available in so many Indian languages (and Italian too). For this reason I have not set up a mailing list or any other support infrastructure. You may mail me if you have questions. I have changed the license to the BSD license. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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OSALT for Tally?
by Pravin Dhayfule 21 May '09

21 May '09

Hi Folks, Am building a list of Applications to be presented as OSAlt (Open Source Alternatives) to frequently used commercial applications. Some of my accountant friends asked me one single question, and am finding answer for it: "Do you have anything for Tally that will work on Linux?" Since I am not from financial background and never used Tally, I didnt find a proper answer. Through Search Engine I did come across GnuCash, but dont know how it compares to Tally. Has anyone used it, so that I can lay out points on transitioning from Tally to GnuCash or any other OpenSource/Free Alternative to Tally. Bye Regards

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] OSALT for Tally?
by Pravin Dhayfule 20 May '09

20 May '09

> > Yeah I got your point. Indeed by transitioning I mean to say for a fresh setup for users who are familiar to tally. For example a new firm who has decided to go for Open Source Platform, this can be recommended to them: 1. Desktop Linux as Operating system (Open Suse, Ubuntu, Fedora etc.) 2. Open Office as Office Application 3. Lots of inbuilt tools in Linux corresponding to the tools for similar activities in Paid OS 4. GNU Cash, GNU Khata, AVSAP or any Open Source financial Application if the firm needs accounting software. There's always a quest to learn new things, so enthusiastic and optimistic people may not hesitate to tryout these new applications. Bye Regards > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Indranil Das Gupta <indradg(a)gmail.com> > To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:55:46 +0530 > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] OSALT for Tally? > Hi Pravin, > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Pravin Dhayfule <dhayfule(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > <snipped> > > > Has anyone used it, so that I can lay out points on transitioning from > Tally > > to GnuCash or any other OpenSource/Free Alternative to Tally. > > Not nitpicking, but have you used the word "transitioning" thoughtfully? > > Accounting / workflow / ERP software are not just software that works, > they create and manage data. So, if you actually *mean* migration, you > may first want to take a look at the data export / migration options > from your existing prop. package, rather than anything else. > > So, if your existing data can't be exported the "migration" project > may entirely fail, as it is not usually feasible to re-enter years or > even months of existing business data into the new system. And AFAIK, > tally uses some sort of prop. data storage schema which is neither > open nor documented. You may not face this problem if you are starting > out the accounting practise at a new firm / company with zero backlog. > > hth > -indra > > > -- > http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers >

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] OSALT for Tally?
by scrapo＠saswatabanerjee.com 20 May '09

20 May '09

Sorry, openerp / tinyerp does not come up as anternate to tally. Tally is a simple accounting software not constrained by erp norms like data authenticity, audit trails, interlocking controls and even data integrety. Openerp is a much more complex software and not a substitute for tally. In the normal sense, an erp is mot an accounting software. Its much more. And due to that it can't take place of accounting software. It will only work where the users WANT something much more than accounting. Saswata -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon(a)au-kbc.org> Subj: Re: [ILUG-BOM] OSALT for Tally? Date: Mon May 18, 2009 6:22 pm Size: 587 bytes To: "GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India" <linuxers(a)mm.ilug-bom.org.in> On Monday 18 May 2009 17:43:31 Pravin Dhayfule wrote: > Since I am not from financial background and never used Tally, I didnt find > a proper answer. Through Search Engine I did come across GnuCash, but dont > know how it compares to Tally. it does not > > Has anyone used it, so that I can lay out points on transitioning from > Tally to GnuCash or any other OpenSource/Free Alternative to Tally. check the archives of this group for openERP/tinyERP -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

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positions available at NRC-FOSS
by Kenneth Gonsalves 20 May '09

20 May '09

hi, http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/full/66/AN/ -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

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