Linuxers November 2010

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[OT] AMD vs Intel
by Rony Bill 16 Nov '10

16 Nov '10

Hello, Some time back there was a discussion on which board processor combination would be good for a workstation. My own machine has been down since many days. One day everything was fine with my dual boot Intel 845 GEBV2 system and I decided to install SP3 in my XP just for kicks. It was downloaded properly from the doze update website and after a few minutes, it started restarting my comp. The worst part was that my mobo got damaged and the HDD controller is giving trouble. Live CDs run fine but even clean installation of doze gives blue screen errors and linux gives hard disk read/write errors midway during installation. It is time for me to go for a new board. I would still go with Intel processors and Intel chipset boards (Not Intel Original Boards). AMD may be good technically but their support in India is not so good. Even simple crosschecking of processors or motherboards is difficult as most repairers have Intel based products. In my experience I have observed that higher end AMD products have better quality and life compared to the low end ones. I have had 2 processor failures in limitted quantities of AMD whereas Intel processors have been quite robust. Another thing one should avoid is Asus motherboards with nVidia chipsets. They are not very stable and solid. -- As a proper list etiquette... Please trim your replies. Post your replies below the relevant original text, leaving a line space. Do not re-use old messages to write new ones. Regards, Rony.

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Open Standards policy finalized--major victory for the FOSS community
by Venkatesh Hariharan 15 Nov '10

15 Nov '10

The open standards policy has been finalized and it incorporates many of the suggestions made by the FOSS community in India. In the previous draft dated 25/11/2009, our major objection was to section 4.1.2 of the policy which said, "4.1.2 The essential patent claims necessary to implement the Identified Standard should preferably be available on a Royalty-Free (no payment and no restrictions) basis for the life time of the standard. However, if such Standards are not found feasible and in the wider public interest, then RF on Fair, Reasonable and Non Discriminatory terms and conditions (FRAND) or Reasonable and Non Discriminatory terms and conditions (RAND) could be considered." Our comment on this section reads: The usage of terms like “preferably” in a section titled, “Mandatory Characteristics” weakens the section and could even render it meaningless. Mandatory characteristics should be laid out clearly and unambiguously, The term “essential patent claims,” is meaningless because a standard cannot be implemented partially. Therefore, the ENTIRE standard should be royalty-free and not just the "essential" parts of it. In other words, ALL patent claims necessary to implement the standard should be royalty-free. Also, RF on FRAND/RAND is self-contradictory. If a Standard is Royalty Free (RF) then it cannot be RAND. Therefore, the wording of this section should be changed to "ALL patent claims necessary to implement the Identified Standard should be available on a Royalty-Free (no payment and no restrictions) basis for the life time of the standard. However, if such Standards are not found feasible and in the wider public interest, then Fair, Reasonable and Non Discriminatory terms and conditions (FRAND) or Reasonable and Non Discriminatory terms and conditions (RAND) could be considered.” As you can see from the extract below, the points mentioned above have been incorporated In the recently finalized policy. This section now reads: 4.1.2 The Patent claims necessary to implement the Identified Standard shall be made available on a Royalty-Free basis for the life time of the Standard. Overall, I'd say this is a major victory for the Indian FOSS community and more than three years of hard work have paid off. The file can be downloaded from: http://egovstandards.gov.in/approved-standthe suggestions mards/egscontent.2010-11-12.9124322046/at_download/file<http://egovstandards.gov.in/approved-standards/egscontent.2010-11-12.912432…> or from: http://egovstandards.gov.in<http://egovstandards.gov.in/approved-standards/egscontent.2010-11-12.912432…>(click on the links on the top left hand side). Venky

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Fwd: [pandaboard] OMAP Tutorial Hour - Repeat sessions
by Mehul Ved 11 Nov '10

11 Nov '10

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Amit Karpe <amitkarpe(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 2:46 AM Subject: Fwd: [pandaboard] OMAP Tutorial Hour - Repeat sessions To: openarmlab(a)googlegroups.com Dear All, FYI. -- Regards Amit Karpe. http://www.amitkarpe.com/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Thondar, Geetha <geethat(a)ti.com> Date: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:26 AM Subject: [pandaboard] OMAP Tutorial Hour - Repeat sessions To: "pandaboard(a)googlegroups.com" <pandaboard(a)googlegroups.com>, "omapdiscuss(a)googlegroups.com" <omapdiscuss(a)googlegroups.com>, "omapzoom(a)googlegroups.com" <omapzoom(a)googlegroups.com>, "omapandroid-discussion(a)gforge.ti.com" <omapandroid-discussion(a)gforge.ti.com> Hello All, Please find details on the upcoming “OMAP Tutorial Hour” that will be hosted on Nov 15th, Mon. There will be 2 sessions - 7 am & 1 pm CST (Central Standard Time) (UTC-5). These are Repeat Sessions from Oct to help the new users of the PandaBoard community and to suit the different time zones. http://omappedia.org/wiki/Tutorial_Hour_Topics Topics: · Introducing PandaBoard - Presented by Nipuna Gunasekera / Jayabharath Goluguri · Your guide to OMAPpedia - Presented by Geetha Thondar 7 am session: WebEx URL: https://ti.webex.com/ti/j.php?ED=127004942&UID=0&RT=MiM3 Meeting Number: 757 998 605 Meeting Password: None 1 pm session: WebEx URL: https://ti.webex.com/ti/j.php?ED=127006022&UID=0&RT=MiM3 Meeting Number: 759 506 916 Meeting Password: None Teleconference Participant Code (same for both sessions): 42691576 Teleconference bridge number in USA: 1-877-561-6828 or (972) 995 7777 Teleconference bridge numbers for other countries please visit: http://www.ticonferencing.com/globalaccess/ We invite you to present in a future session – please suggest your topics at: http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Tutorial_Hour_Topics Thanks! -- With Regards, Mehul Ved

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Fwd: [ilugc] Ubuntu Masti
by Mehul Ved 09 Nov '10

09 Nov '10

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Yogesh Girikumar <yogeshg1987(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:08 PM Subject: [ilugc] Ubuntu Masti To: ILUG-C <ilugc(a)ae.iitm.ac.in>, ilugc.tamil(a)ae.iitm.ac.in Hi, This may be of interest to FOSS enthusiasts. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/iit-bombays-e-book-computer-masti-comput… Yogesh G. _______________________________________________ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- With Regards, Mehul Ved

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[X-Post] Reminder - SciPy India 2010 Last 2 Days for Talk Abstracts
by Anoop Jacob Thomas 09 Nov '10

09 Nov '10

========================================== SciPy 2010 Call for Papers & Participation ========================================== The second SciPy India Conference (scipy.in) will be held from December 13th to 18th, 2010 at IIIT-Hyderabad (http://www.iiit.ac.in/). Scipy.in is a conference providing opportunities to spread the use of the Python programming language in the Scientific Computing community in India. It provides a unique opportunity to interact with the "Who's who" of the Python for Scientific Computing fraternity and learn, understand, participate and contribute what is happening in the realms of Scientific Computing using Python. Attendees of the conference and participants of the sprints planned will be able to access and review the tools available, apart from learning domain-specific applications and how the tools apply to a plethora of application problems. One of the goals of the conference is to combine education, engineering and science with computing through the medium of Python and thereby extrapolate on how powerful Scientific Computing is in various fields and among different communities. At this conference, novel applications and breakthroughs made in the pursuit of science using Python are presented. Attended by leading figures from both academia and industry, it is an excellent opportunity to experience the cutting edge of scientific software development. The conference is followed by three days of tutorials and code sprints, during which community experts provide training on several scientific Python packages. We invite you to take part by submitting a talk abstract or register as a participant on the conference website at: http://scipy.in Talk/Paper Submission ===================== We solicit talks and accompanying papers (either formal academic or magazine-style articles) that discuss topics regarding scientific computing using Python, including applications, teaching, development and research. Papers are included in the peer-reviewed conference proceedings, published online. Please note that submissions primarily aimed at the promotion of a commercial product or service will not be considered. Important Dates =============== Wednesday, Nov. 10: Abstracts Due Monday, Nov. 15: Schedule announced Sunday, Dec. 05: Proceedings paper submission due Monday-Tuesday, Dec. 13-14: Conference Wednesday-Friday, Dec. 15-17: Tutorials/Sprints Saturday, Dec. 18: Sprints The invited speakers ================== * Fernando Perez -- PhD from University of Colorado. Currently at the Helen Wills Neuroscience Institute at the University of California, Berkeley. Original author and leader of the IPython project for interactive computing (http://ipython.scipy.org), and member of the Python Software Foundation. * John Hunter -- Ph.D. from University of Chicago. Currently at Tradelink, Inc. Chicago. Original author and lead developer of the scientific visualization package matplotlib. * Perry Greenfield -- PhD, MIT. Currently at Space Telescope Science Institute, Maryland, USA. Has pioneered the use of Python in astronomy. He and his group have developed PyRAF, numarray (the precursor to current numpy capabilities), PyFITS and involved with the development of matplotlib. * Prabhu Ramachandran -- PhD, IIT Madras. Currently a faculty member at IIT Bombay. He is the co-founder of the Indian Linux User Group - Chennai (ILUGC) and is the creator and lead developer of the (FOSS-India-award-winning) Mayavi and TVTK Python packages (http://code.enthought.com/projects/mayavi). Currently heads the FOSSEE (http://fossee.in) project. * Stéfan van der Walt -- PhD, Stellenbosch University, SA. Currently a researcher and lecturer in Applied Mathematics at Stellenbosch University. One of the developers of the NumPy and SciPy packages. * Jarrod Millman -- Member of the SciPy steering committee and an active contributor to both the NumPy and SciPy projects. He is the acting managing director and the director of computing for UC Berkeley's Neuroscience Institute, where he helped found the Neuroimaging in Python (NiPy) project. * Satrajit Ghosh -- PhD Boston University. Currently a faculty member of the Speech and Hearing Biosciences and Technology program, Harvard-MIT. He is managing the development of the NiPy project (http://nipy.org/nipype/). * Asokan Pichai -- Head - Software Engineering at TalentSprint. Consultant/Project manager for the Python group of the FOSSEE project. He has immense experience in the field of training and instructional design. Organizers ========== * Jarrod Millman, Neuroscience Institute, UC Berkeley, USA (Conference Co-Chair) * Prabhu Ramachandran, Department of Aerospace Engineering, IIT Bombay, India (Conference Co-Chair) * FOSSEE Team * EnhanceEdu Team About Python ============ Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented, open source, extensible programming language. It combines clarity and readability, making it an extremely powerful language that can be used for various applications and problems. Python is simple and easy to learn and apply. It offers an interactive environment in which to explore procedural, functional and object oriented approaches to problem solving. Its high level data structures, extensive documentation and clear syntax make it an ideal first language, while the large number of existing libraries make it suitable to tackle almost any programming tasks. Its simplicity makes it easy to adapt to multiple educational domains. Python has several libraries that enable numeric and symbolic computing. It also interfaces well with native codes in C,C++ and FORTRAN and has excellent libraries for plotting/visualization. Python also provides libraries for general purpose computing including generating user interfaces and web development. These, coupled with it's interactive interpreter, make Python an excellent language for Scientific Computing. All these features when combined with their wide-ranging applications make Python a perfect fit for use in Education, Industry and Scientific Computing. Registration Fees =============== Registration, accommodation and food are offered at highly subsidized rates for teachers and students, while registration and food will be offered to all conference participants at subsidized rates. Details about the fees can be found at: http://scipy.in/scipyin/2010/about/fees/ Publicity ======== The posters can be downloaded from the website : http://scipy.in/scipyin/2010/publicity/ Contact ======= Feel free to email the organizers at info(a)scipy.in -- Anoop Jacob Thomas FOSSEE, IIT Bombay.

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Russian to compete with windows.
by Advait Raut 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Hi guys, I came across this topic i think India should also do the same thing in there military systems. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Tech-News-Software-Services/Russia-to-de… -- Regards Advait Raut

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