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Any one interested in participating in workshops for teachers for 5th to 8th grade : ICT for schools
by jitendra 26 Dec '08

26 Dec '08

Any one familiar with school system, teachers therein or OLPC, Sugar desktop etc , or interested in evangelising FOSS in schools , please contact undersigned. -- jitendra

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GNU/Linux in AP colleges
by Dinesh Shah 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

http://m.livemint.com/srsstore/showPage.do?siteId=30482&pageId=20672893&htm… -- --Dinesh Shah :-) +91-98213-11906 Shah Micro System http://dineshah.wordpress.com Sent from iPhone!

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cannot set resolution to 1440x900 on Debian Etch
by rohit bhute 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

I have installed Debian Etch on a gigabyte motherboard GA-MA74GM-S2, having AMD 740G + SB700 Chipset. The website says it has ATI Radeon 2100 integrated graphics. Output of lspci is as follows: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 796e This driver selected for this is "vesa". If I try "ati", X server refuses to start. But the main problem is resolution - it is set at 1280x1024. I tried using "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and setting resolution to 1440X900, but at that, the resolution was set to 1400x1050 when X server was restarted. Even adding the resolution manually to the Modes lines in xorg.conf and restarting X server did not solve the issue. How can I fix this? Thanks. -- Rohit V. Bhute

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Wireless mobile with bluetooth for skills education v/s micro-campus based education
by Erach 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

> > My machine has something like 768 Kbytes of RAM. > No it is 768 MegaBytes of RAM. > Who is the certifying authority? why would anyone accept your > certification. > The answer to the "who is the certifying authority ? why would anyone accept your certification" is very long and given below. Hi, Wireless mobiles with bluetooth --- and huge screens --- somebody told me they are for Rs 3,500 ----- they will get there shortly perhaps and can at least be used to deliver audio education ----- that way no charity is involved. This is to deliver skills based education to very poor people who can afford a mobile but not even a television or a computer ---- in slums basically. On this mobile, you will have to have a network which gives them jobs based on the skills based education ----- all this may get possible with the data-based G3 mobiles coming out They don't need a certifying authority but good word of mouth clients and references which should be posted on the net. For a good worker, the boss will give references, for a bad worker or contractor nobody will give references. Now, can one distribute education which is: 1. Micro-campus based education or joint family like Education which keeps children together in groups of 10 for a long time ----- longer than the current 10th standard ---- is that feasible or desirable, by forming them into focus groups and business groups and friend groups. Nowadays, when families have only one or two children, do we need 10 students together in a joint family like atmosphere or "gurukul" for a long time. Best Regards, Erach ps. below portion is very long and may be discarded. Well, to answer the question ---- who will certify, what about distributed campuses for schools and colleges with online backup. So it is not purely online (is that ever feasible or one needs people present) but say daily or once a week meetings. WEll, If you go to a DEEMED University which has been opened by coaching-classes, they might see the justification for this :: "the University gives online degrees, but the face-to-face contact takes place in rooms of individuals everywhere---- so 10 students can learn at a time together", and they appear to "coaching classes say once a week". This can be opened all over the world ----- not just in Mumbai. What do u get from this ---- I don't know. For me, it is just the typing of an idea. Even schools, can go from 60 to 100 students per class that way ---- not every body should appear daily in the school, but can be taught at a teacher // associate's residence. Where is the cost to build new school buildings ---- new Universities buildings and so on ? Can we not do an hybrid of online learning ---- meet in rooms. People do satsangs in their own homes everywhere of the guru of their choice. You can call this an online University satsang. Erach NOW HOW DO YOU RECRUIT STUDENTS FOR A DISTRIBUTED CAMPUS // MICRO-GRAINED CAMPUS. With online training. It is very easy. Suppose there are TEN students in 12th standard or 11th standard or even in primary school (don't forget real-estate is now going vacant and prices are dropping). Well, there subjects are not ALL different. They decide to UNITE after 10th, or 11th, or 12th standard ----- they approach a DEEMED UNIVERSITY or a COLLEGE and say ----- give us your online training ---- we will do it from our HOME and perhaps then go abroad for higher studies. Neither, are we going to make our parents pay in lakhs which we don't want them to spend (especially in times of recession) nor in thousands of dollars, but we will study the online material together and contact a tutor such as tutorvista.com (if you are abroad) or live via phone in a call-center, old teacher live, or some one in not so premier cities ------------------- so the superb online college is made. This should be better than seperating students all the time in 10th, 11th, 12th, in the 3 years of bachelors, and so on -------- and let them build a stronger cohesive network which would last them all their life. For instance, I've never met you members on the mailing list ---- would I trust you ----- no, but I have to meet you in person and so on ---- and then the trust is built. Is this idea becoming better. Now, you can take it to a DEEMED UNIVERSITY (formerly merely a coaching class) in New Mumbai, and they might do it for South Mumbai students and save them the daily/weekly journey. Erach > 8. Re: Apologies. Content creation/kiosk. Opening of an online > university with automated testing followed by in-person testing. (jtd) > 2008 12:34, Erach wrote: > I had asked about "open University". Well Online Education in India : Punjab Technical University offers ...First virtual campus in India - Punjab Technical University offers internationally accredited degree & diploma programmes in mangement, engineering , ... www.ptuonline.com/ - 14k - Cached - Similar pages Comes up ---- I called the phone numbers they listed ----- it is there. Now, there are DEEMED UNIVERSITIES in Maharashtra which could give ONLINE also in additional to there normal courses. Yes, Windows is expensive ---- both Windows and LINUX are tools ---- if somebody goes to the management of a deemed University and points to www.ptuonline.com and its counterpart abroad (www.tutorvista.com) could one open a University which teaches foreign students. The person who goes there hopefully gets a project ------ and some funds ---- and perhaps more. Erach

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better package-management
by shirish 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

Hi all, I blogged about the need to have better package management (actually it should have been better distribution-management now that I look into it) but what do people think/feel for the same. Are my conclusions correct or not? http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2008/12/19/better-package-management/ Looking forward for comments here or there. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17

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Reminder: ILUG-BOM December 2008 Meet
by Dinesh Shah (દિન ેશ શાહ/द िनेश शाह) 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

H! All, Here is the final announcement for Dec. 2008 ILUG-Bom meet. The only change is Kartik's talk have to be drop due to his ill health. He may not be able to make it the meet. But if he can there will be BoF during/after the meet. Date: 21st Dec. 2008 Time: 2:00 - 5:00 PM IST Venue: Directi (Thanks to Gaurav Chaturvedi) 330 Link-Way Estate, Link Road Malad (W) Above Greens hotel Directions: Get off at Malad/Goregaon station, ask for "greens hotel" (it is very close to in-orbit mall) Agenda: 1. Bazaar Version Control System by Prashant Shah 1. Introduction 2. Fundamentals of a version control system 3. Creating repository 4. Working with local and remote repository 5. Checkouts 6. Branching and merging 2. Creating Interactive Widgets with Qt. 1. Drawing and Painting in Qt, 2. Changing look and feel of Qt Widgets with style sheets, 3. The QGraphicsView Framework for Visualization. 4. A small demo app using QGraphicsView Framework having custom widgets and usage of style sheets. Wiki: http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/wiki/index.php/Current_events#Dec_2008_Meet Looking forward to large participation. See you all tomorrow. With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Blog-1: http://dineshah.wordpress.com/ Blog-2: http://dineshah.blogspot.com/ Lily Tomlin - "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific."

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Announce: ILUG-BOM December 2008 Meet
by Dinesh Shah (દિન ેશ શાહ/द िनेश शाह) 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

H! All, I am pleased to announce one more addition of ILUG-BOM Meet for December 2008. Date: 21st Dec. 2008 Time: 2:00 - 5:00 PM IST Venue: Directi (Thanks to Gaurav Chaturvedi) 330 Link-Way Estate, Link Road Malad (W) Above Greens hotel Directions: Get off at malad/goregaon station, ask for "greens hotel" (it is very close to inorbit mall) Agenda: 1. Bazaar Version Control System by Prashant Shah 1. Introduction 2. Fundamentals of a version control system 3. Creating repository 4. Working with local and remote repository 5. Checkouts 6. Branching and merging 2. Status of Debian GNU/Linux Distribution by Kartik Mistry (@Kartik OL Please) 3. One more topic open. Please come forward to talk on topic of your choice! Announcement on Wiki: http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/wiki/index.php/Current_events#Dec_2008_Meet Looking forward to you coming in large numbers With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Blog-1: http://dineshah.wordpress.com/ Blog-2: http://dineshah.blogspot.com/ Chevy Chase - "Parrots make great pets. They have more personality than goldfish."

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Disable Kernel Module from loading at boot on Ubuntu 8.04
by Dinesh Shah (દિન ેશ શાહ/द िनेश शाह) 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

H! All, On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) <dineshah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I will know for sure if the issue is resolved after I reboot the system. > > The driver is Ubuntu 8.04 was r8169 > > I downloaded RTL driver from > http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFi… > > and compiled installed the same on the system. I have added # Replaced with r8168 --Dinesh Shah blacklist r8169 in file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist Still the r8169 module is loaded after reboot. I am not able to find using google any other way to disable the module loading at boot. Any pointers? TIA WIth regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Blog-1: http://dineshah.wordpress.com/ Blog-2: http://dineshah.blogspot.com/ Douglas MacArthur - "We are not retreating - we are advancing in another direction."

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Strange issue with network card on Ubuntu 8.04
by Dinesh Shah (દિન ેશ શાહ/द िनेश शाह) 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

H! All, This on-board gigabit ether net gives strange problem. It works most of the times but at times it does not work. Distro: Ubuntu 8.04 (I am not upgrading/changing distro, it ain't broken, wont fix. ;-) ) Kernel Version: Linux matrix 2.6.24-18-generic #1 SMP Wed May 28 20:27:26 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux dmesg [ 126.566892] NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out [ 127.381312] r8169: eth0: link up [ 204.415881] NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out [ 205.229306] r8169: eth0: link up [ 677.674793] NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out [ 678.489221] r8169: eth0: link up lspci: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev ff) lspci -vvv (Nonworking State): 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev ff) (prog-if ff) !!! Unknown header type 7f lspci -vvv (working State): 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Unknown device e000 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 221 I/O ports at a000 [size=256] Memory at d1010000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K] Memory at d1000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=64K] [virtual] Expansion ROM at d1020000 [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: <access denied> Any ideas what's happening? TIA With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Blog-1: http://dineshah.wordpress.com/ Blog-2: http://dineshah.blogspot.com/ Douglas MacArthur - "We are not retreating - we are advancing in another direction."

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Apologies. Content creation/kiosk. Opening of an online university with automated testing followed by in-person testing.
by Erach 19 Dec '08

19 Dec '08

Hi, My apologies to the net for flooding them with requests and top posting and breaching netiquette (I apologized to both Easwar and Sanjay). Well, my Ubuntu 8.10 does NOT install on my Kubuntu 8.04 computer. And Canonical promises only 18 months of SECURITY updates ---- not ALL updates. Yet, I have ordered Kubuntu 8.10 from CANONICAL. My machine has something like 768 Kbytes of RAM. Now, what can a KIOSK do ---- why should cultural book depot or a college put a kiosk. How can you enhance the marketing appeal of a LINUX kiosk in any book-store (educational). Well, how about training courses English (from Hindi/Marathi/local Indian language) followed by online testing (a cybercafe would love this) followed by in-person testing or (in-camera testing in the cybercafe). The training course could be scheduled for 1 hour of adult training or 30 minutes of adult training daily and distributed via DVD / CD ---- computer should not be needed if you want to reach the very poor --- but if you wish initially computer could be needed. What are the consequences of boosting English, boosting Education, boosting even skill-based training and knowledge-based training ? Well, Google language tools translates web-pages into Hindi (written) and shows original Wikipedia pages in English. The IIT's have courses they distribute online. Why are you focusing on KIOSK and LINUX (Linux is merely a tool, Windows works just fine/see Wikipedia) ---- why not an entire University. (Sorry, I am a toothless PhD so I seek to inspire you to lift your vision for Education --- but I have no resources or labor to give). Flame me if you want. You have seen students smoking outside colleges ---- do you think you could inspire them to build open-source content (or content for a cheap fee). There is a website which sends you the revenues for free of all the videos loaded on it. I asked an old woman (67) whether she would put an Italian-Hindi cd (author it, she teaches Italian when she has students), she promptly said, what is in it for me ? Erach

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