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Re: [ILUG-BOM] An Interesting Question
by Vinayak Hegde 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

hi, M$ has only fooled few people. It's only that thoose who have been conned do not know that have been conned. A strategy like this is very difficult/impossible due to the architectural differences between windows and linux. BTW do you think that Bill Gate's/M$'s ego will let him do that? or is money more important than the ego?? There have been some attempts to bridge the gap between the applications(eg Lindows.com which runs both M$ and linux apps) :-) ciao Vinayak Hegde __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] An Interesting Question
by quasar＠vsnl.net 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

lilo(a)zeenext.com wrote >The Internal CodeName for Windows XP was "Cairo". In Greek "Chi" >is written as "X" and Rho as "P" (well roughly). Hence XP in >Windows XP is for Cairo and not X from Xwindows or MacOS. ummm.. interesting information. Now all we gotta do is find a connection between Cairo, the greek language and Micro$oft. It is of course very circumstantial that windowsXP which came after macOSX both have a greater thrust on eye-candy interface and of course the fact that the latest of X can compete with any of the above in the eye-candy aspect. Three windowing systems with X somewhere in their names - now that is something... :-D BTW what seems to be the motivation for these esoteric "internal codenames" which seem to be the norm of the industry..? quasi

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] An Interesting Question
by Vinayak Hegde 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

> M$ already was inspired by the Mac OS X & the various good looking > managers > on X to name the last windows with an 'X' in it. :-) > > quasi The Internal CodeName for Windows XP was "Cairo". In Greek "Chi" is written as "X" and Rho as "P" (well roughly). Hence XP in Windows XP is for Cairo and not X from Xwindows or MacOS. :-) ciao Vinayak Hegde __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] An Interesting Question
by q u a s i 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

At 12:30 even 9/26/02 +0530, N Joshibaba wrote: >but the kernel architecture (monolithic / macrolithic / hybrid (?)) of >Windows and Linux is different right ? Also there is difference between >Windows 9x and NT kernel > >AFAIK Linux kernel was written keeping in mind POSIX nd I guess POSIX nd >Windows don't go together AFAIK POSIX is an standard. M$ has full right to be compliant, *if* it so wants to. >Also I think you are assuming that Linux is the *best* kernel available >(BTW what happened to HURD ?) which arguably is not the case right, IMHO. GNU/Linux is the best choice due to its 'open' & 'free' nature. It is under constant and heavy development and one day (soon) may become the best. Stallman wants HURD to be in, but I think it lacks the developer following that Linux has. >I've seem ppl on Usenet (Microsoft Developers well versed with GNU/Linux) >refer to Windows 2000 with reverence. I too think that Microsoft did come >up with something 'stable' with >Windows 2000. Win2K is indeed stable. And, I suppose, a good secure OS to have if one does not mind paying the big bucks and wants professional technical support. The last truly useless piece of junk from M$ was windows95. Even windows98SE is quiet stable (though not as efficient as GNU/Linux and of course completely insecure). >I mean when I look at Windows Xp ; it iz a hybrid of Win 9x and Windows >2000 right? Modified & improved Win ME interface on top of NT kernel. It is all eye-candy than genuine performance improvements, I suppose. M$ already was inspired by the Mac OS X & the various good looking managers on X to name the last windows with an 'X' in it. :-) quasi HSC pass, too! '-)

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Redhat Plans to conquer the desktop??
by Vinayak Hegde 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

The VP of RH talks to the register about RH future plans. Thankfully though they have no plans to replace Redmond with redhat http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/27289.html Also there is an article in the Times that LG is planning to sell PCs preloaded with Linux. Also if I remember right there was an AD by compaq (again in the Times sometime back) which showcased two PCs one running Linux and the other windows Both the configs were the same but there was a price difference of nearly rs.7000/- between them. :-) ciao Vinayak Hegde __________________________________________________________________________ http://dating.zeenext.com Log on to nextDATE. It's the next best thing to doing it.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] whats obfuscation
by Sankha Subhra Som 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

Hi Yes it prints n! and is pretty good at doing that(large precision) I commented out the #include<stdio.h> and ran the preprocessor on the original file. Then i ran indent on the result to give it a decent look. Then i changed all the variables to more meaningful ones. The thirteenth line looks something like this for (l = 0; l < 14; putchar ("\t\"8)>l\"9!.)>vl"[l] ^ 'L'), ++l); It is supposed to print something like "Enter number: " The perplexing part is the putchar() in the loop Taking a close look at it you can see that he has a 14 character striing in the quotes "\t\"8)>l\"9!.)>vl" .This he indexes by [l]. While the loop executes he extracts each character systematically and does an bitwise exclusive OR with 'L' and prints the resulting character.This prints the string. Now the question why does he do an XOR with 'L' is easy. He could have done an XOR with nethin for the matter but then the string in quotes would have been different. If a XOR b = c then a XOR c = b This explains the 13th line. Will try to make sense out of the remaining code. -- SANKHA SUBHRA SOM ATC - BIOINFORMATICS TCS KLK BUILDING. HYDERABAD-1 Ph:(040)6787980-1024 ******************************************************** An anonymous digitoid ******************************************************** Everything happens to everybody sooner or later if there is time enough.

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Re: Buggy C prog
by Amish Mehta 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

Hint: 1) You cant bury someone without digging hole. If you dont make(allocate) space you cant store(read) things. 2) Think gets() Amish. Nikhil Joshi wrote: >I've tried this simple prog to encrypt a file using XOR > >But it gives "Segmentation Fault " in 'interactive' mode (pls see the >source code)

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Re: whats obfuscation..FUN
by Gurpreet Singh 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

hi i did go thru the confusy contest. the code i wrote was not as confusing as the one just posted on the LUG (wish i had checked mail earlier). i used names like pepsi coke sprite, burger, pizza etc etc by #defines for printf scanf etc etc . even used mullllllllllllllllltiple function jumps to just do simple things. It was real FUN... results will comeout tomm let see. i think i messed up in the debugging round... gurpreet

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Sendmail smtp problem
by Satsonic 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

i need suggestion from u, theres some configuration problem i h've setup linux 7.3 Redhat with iptables firewall, n squid proxy server now i want to configure sendmail as a mail server for internal lan user the requirement is users from lan should able to send mails through windows machine with the help of outlook express, i already have a pop3 address for receiving mails from internet for example xyz.com, so receiving is not a problem but i need to configure my gateway such a way that user from lan (windows 98 / 2000 + outlook express installed ) should able to send mails to anyone from outlook express through gatway. pls tell me abt this from scratch that how should i setup sendmail to do this task, i dont h've any registered domain name i h've 64 kbps leased line with static ip n isp dns if i use mail programme on gateway to send mails to xyz(a)yahoo.com it works now i want same thing should happen from client machine i h've done SNAT on some machines Thanx Satsonic

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[Announce] [ACM] Seminar: Resource Description Framework - Sep 27
by Philip S Tellis 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

Hello friends, We at ACM Mumbai are organizing a seminar on RDF, which is a general purpose language for representing information in the WWW and meant primarily for representing metadata about web-resources. The seminar titled "Resource Description Framework" is to be held on Fri Sep 27, 2002 -- *6:30 pm* at NCST, Gulmohar Cross Road 9, Juhu, Mumbai 400049. [Landmark: Copper Chimney Restaurant]. (road map available at http://www.ncst.ernet.in/contactus/) Please note that the seminar is at 6:30pm and NOT at 5:35pm as written erroneously in the ACM Mumbai newsletter. We look forward to seeing you at the seminar. The abstract of the seminar is given below: Resource Description Framework(RDF) is a emerging standard monitored by W3C for describing resources on the web. The seminar will cover what exactly RDF is, how it can be useful to describe not only resources on the web but any metadata, and the future of RDF. The talk will be full of examples and practical discussion on RDF. About the speaker: Dharmesh Maniyar is a Staff Scientist in Education Technology Unit(ETU) working at NCST Kharghar. His areas of interest are Online Learning, Data Mining and Machine Learning. - JJH for ACM, Mumbai.

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